Maybe we can gather them all in one place and slowly burn them alive. The we can dance at the sound of their agonizing, nightmare giving screams. AND THEN, after all is over, we could go catch a movie or something.
'Slut' Parade
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I will go for "what?", "what?" and ....JonnWood said:
If they didn't answer would they not just put X% didn't answer the question? It would also be weird to agree to answer questions about your rape-ings then say "I don't want to answer that one".
It still doesn't sound like the best source if there leaving big flaws in there stats. That kind of shit wouldn't fly anywhere else and I am surprised so many people are just saying "it doesn't matter" basically. Maybe your unable or willing to give me a solid answer 'cos it backs up your opinion so well otherwise.
There clearly flawed stats but since they agree with you (or whoever agrees with your opinion) you stand behind it and go "look this credable source agrees with me".
I am pretty sure I could find stats to agree with me, if I could be bothered to look for them. (yes, you can use that to proclaim your victory if you like).
I'll stand by my opinion all day long and I am kicking myself that I got dragged into this debate again.
I assume the poll wasn't covered under attorney client privilege, which means that certain answers may jeopardize their chances of an appeal.omega 616 said:
I did. I proposed that they simply could not have answered. You have not bothered to attempt to explain the source of these "flaws", or even to look up the poll yourself, which should be a standard step before you start criticizing it.
And you haven't even looked up the source, and ignore both the "clearly flawed" study and a plausible explanation. The statistics, all told, add up to upwards of 200%. The poll could easily have allowed the respondants to select multiple answers. There, a second plausible explanation, which you will promptly accuse of being a double standard, I have no doubt.
Not at all. I'm using them to proclaim your intellectual laziness and dishonesty.
You are intellectually lazy and dishonest, BTW. For one thing, you still haven't admitted that you questioned the source of a clearly sourced quote.
Opinions != facts. Standing by an opinion in the face of any evidence is what's known as "denial" and "blind faith".
Just felt the need to quote this from Break, as he/she put it pretty well:Grimlock Fett said:[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/memesthelogicofsad.jpg/]
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When I read this piece yesterday (Hipster) I immediately thought of this picture!!
I'd also like to add that basing your opinion on the acceptable frequency of sex by concentrating on the shape of a person's genitalia is deeply stupid.Break said:
Well wouldn't it be nice if we all lived on a big fluffy cloud and held hands singing hymns.........Metal Brother said:Sexual discrimination fail!TB_Infidel said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13333013
So these women are proud of being sluts, think that there is nothing wrong with acting in that way, and rather then listening to advice on how to avoid rape, they want to protest?
Does anyone else find this type of behavior ridiculous and shows how warped/hedonistic parts of Western society is becoming?
Adult perspective win!sethzard said:
Any adult should have the ability to choose his or her own style of dress AND choose his or her own consenting sexual partners, without fear of being sexually assaulted.
How about you, TB_Infidel? Would it be ok for you to be raped if you were wearing an outfit that turned on your attacker? Would that make it your fault?
Guys seem to think that rape is something that only happens to women - it's not. Put the shoe on the other foot, and it looks a little different...
Sadly this is not the world we live in and people will take advantage of some situations/people.
Of course the victim, and I don't think anyone in this thread disagrees with this, is always a victim and the attacker is the one who should be punished, however sometimes the victim puts themselves in such a stupid position that you leave yourself wondering how can anyone be so void of common sense.
If what they really want is to stop rape, something arguably everyone on the planet wants (excluding rapists i suppose...), then thats all well and good. we should all have anti rape parades. you know, where everyone can come together and say "hey everyone, don't rape people you psychos" or something catchier. you know general consencious that rape needs to stop.
instead, they have decided the better way to go about this is to proudly refer to themselves as sluts. so while we can all agree that no woman should ever be raped, regardless of how much, or how little, they happen to be wearing; these girls have decided its better to alienate themselves and invite scorn for their right to wear low cut tops or tight jeans, or whatever. and in the end no-one really cares because it seems so trivial. we all agree that the arguement "she was dressed slutty therefore was asking to be raped" is invalid, and in the end its rape we really want gone, not cleavage.
what im trying to say is just that this isn't the right way to go about spreading this message. if your a woman that likes sex and sleeps around, thats fine. i honestly don't think your begging to be raped. and hell, you could be a proud slut who happens to prefer wearing sensible clothes anyways. dont go throwing away supporters against rape by calling yourselves sluts, thus asking for ridicule at least in the short term. in the end i think its a start, not a good one, not one that will have much affect, but a start. definatly support them, even if its in the way you secretly support green peace or peta, but would never ever call yourself a member because, while you believe in the cause, their methods are just asking for trouble.
EDIT: just wanted to add another thought. can we all stop applauding guys for banging several girls? thats another thing i've noticed in this thread, the whole "if one key opens many locks, its a master key" thing. its not really correct. if you bang dozens of girls your a man whore really, but thats ok. thats your thing. you shouldn't be judged, nor should you really be praised. who you sleep with is up to you and its your own business; but honestly its not a huge accomplishment worthy of the amount of praise we tend to give guys for it.
so inconclusion: rape=bad, and guy who sleeps around isnt a champ, he's a man whore. can we all just get along?
instead, they have decided the better way to go about this is to proudly refer to themselves as sluts. so while we can all agree that no woman should ever be raped, regardless of how much, or how little, they happen to be wearing; these girls have decided its better to alienate themselves and invite scorn for their right to wear low cut tops or tight jeans, or whatever. and in the end no-one really cares because it seems so trivial. we all agree that the arguement "she was dressed slutty therefore was asking to be raped" is invalid, and in the end its rape we really want gone, not cleavage.
what im trying to say is just that this isn't the right way to go about spreading this message. if your a woman that likes sex and sleeps around, thats fine. i honestly don't think your begging to be raped. and hell, you could be a proud slut who happens to prefer wearing sensible clothes anyways. dont go throwing away supporters against rape by calling yourselves sluts, thus asking for ridicule at least in the short term. in the end i think its a start, not a good one, not one that will have much affect, but a start. definatly support them, even if its in the way you secretly support green peace or peta, but would never ever call yourself a member because, while you believe in the cause, their methods are just asking for trouble.
EDIT: just wanted to add another thought. can we all stop applauding guys for banging several girls? thats another thing i've noticed in this thread, the whole "if one key opens many locks, its a master key" thing. its not really correct. if you bang dozens of girls your a man whore really, but thats ok. thats your thing. you shouldn't be judged, nor should you really be praised. who you sleep with is up to you and its your own business; but honestly its not a huge accomplishment worthy of the amount of praise we tend to give guys for it.
so inconclusion: rape=bad, and guy who sleeps around isnt a champ, he's a man whore. can we all just get along?
There seems to be a chronic rash of blaming the victim on the Escapist, don't you think if there was any evidence that dressing provocatively increases rape statistics that it would be all over the outlets instead of making the news because it came from the mouth of some hick cop in the States?
The thing I hate about this "common sense" is while it's certainly common it's barely ever sense.
Considering this is "FACTUAL" advice I've only heard the clueless retard, I'm sorry, "Police Officer" touting it. One mans opinion isn't fact I'm afraid. No matter how many other people share it. There's no hard evidence at all that shows skimpy clothes=rape. A rapist doesn't need skimpy clothing to target someone. A woman's just as much at risk dressed as a librarian than a stripper.
The thing I hate about this "common sense" is while it's certainly common it's barely ever sense.
So do you keep a dust sheet over your car at all times in case some people think it looks nice? Do you bar all your doors and windows with the curtains shut just in case someone sees inside and takes a liking to it? Are you gonna cover any children/future children in a full length burka in case a wandering pedophile takes an interest in them?matt87_50 said:
Considering this is "FACTUAL" advice I've only heard the clueless retard, I'm sorry, "Police Officer" touting it. One mans opinion isn't fact I'm afraid. No matter how many other people share it. There's no hard evidence at all that shows skimpy clothes=rape. A rapist doesn't need skimpy clothing to target someone. A woman's just as much at risk dressed as a librarian than a stripper.
Sorry, I can't agree with that. What you're describing is not a simply a lack of idealism. What you're describing is the same position used by Muslim zealots who insist that all women wear clothing that shows no skin other than the eyes (if that) because men cannot control themselves if they see a woman in revealing or provocative dress.TB_Infidel said:
You're also flying in the face of all research around rape and sexual assault. You can choose to believe what you want, of course, as many people do...
P.S. This is like the 10th CAPTCHA in a row where I have been able to read it without reloading a new one. Good job Escapist!
Amazing analogy - thank you!Torrasque said:
I can see the headline now:
STUPID STEELERS FAN BRUTALLY BEATEN
Detroit, MI - A Pittsburgh man was hospitalized after being beaten at a local gas station Sunday night. He had stopped to buy gasoline when a group of Detroit football fans saw the Steelers jersey he was wearing. The local youth beat him severely until the gas station attendant intervened and called the police.
Police on the scene were quoted as saying "This is an unfortunate incident, but you can see he has it coming. He was asking for it and deserved what he got. No one goes into this neighborhood on game day wearing clothes like that."
That's because it's not hard for a girl to be a slut. Most females can go downtown and pick up men with very little trouble if they wanted to.Grimlock Fett said:[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/memesthelogicofsad.jpg/]
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It's harder for men to be stud's though. They have to be all charming and have charisma and be good looking. Lot's of effort.
I agree. It shouldn't be acceptable for men to sleep around either.JoJoDeathunter said:
REPLY TO A COMMENT ON THE FIRST PLACE ON THE TWENTY-THIRD PAGE MAN, AWAY
Yeah, I figured that one out. But I had a few free minutes and decided to waste them. ;-)JonnWood said:
Thanks!
On the one hand, I understand and fully support the message they are trying to put across.
On the other, a little modesty in how somebody dresses goes a long way. You have no idea how sick I am of seeing people wearing tights/leggings with no skirt/shorts/whatever. That shit shouldn't be worn that way, it looks horrific.
On the other, a little modesty in how somebody dresses goes a long way. You have no idea how sick I am of seeing people wearing tights/leggings with no skirt/shorts/whatever. That shit shouldn't be worn that way, it looks horrific.
Thank Christ I wasn't the only person thinking this ;-)Fagotto said:
Back to the topic, no one "deserves" to be raped. Point blank.
And in a perfect world someone "should" be allowed to wear what they want without fear of repercussions. However they also can't walk around ignorant of the potential danger they may be putting themselves in. If you donned a suit covered in raw meat and walked around the lion enclosure at the zoo, you shouldn't be surprised if you get mauled to death, as opposed to the guy dressed as a grassy knoll. There are predators out there, like it or not, and making yourself stand out as more of a target probably isn't advised. Yeah it sucks that things are like that, but that's reality. Deal with it.
But it's not reality. This same concept gets brought back up damn near every page by someone who thinks there's some sense to it, but it doesn't reflect reality. Reality is that what a woman is wearing doesn't actually effect her chances of being sexually assaulted.Programmed_For_Damage said: