Small women and sexuality

[Casual Shinji]

So you're saying all those midget pornstars should probably avoid working in Australia then.

 

[Casual Shinji]

So you're saying all those midget pornstars should probably avoid working in Australia then.

They should anyway, considering most of the animals will be trying to eat them.

Or put them in their pouches.

Now I have a mental image of Peter Dinklage in a kangaroo pounch.

 

[Daniel Janhagen]

I recently got into a discussion with some friends regarding a law that Australia passed back in 2010 wherein they stated that they would ban pornography featuring women that "looked" younger than 18. It was vaguely written, and overstated by the news media, but it did inspire an interesting discussion.

Blurgh, we have that law in Sweden as well, except worse: A manga translator was convicted and had to take his case all the way to the supreme court because he had DRAWINGS of not even pornographic, but "comedy nudity" underage girls.

Lots of people here, including the "queen", want to make it illegal to even see material featuring what you're talking about. That's right: Not only making, distributing, owning or showing to other people - seeing it! Like if the police seize my computer and they find something questionable in my browser cache (potentially something I opened by mistake, or from a banner ad?), I could be going to jail. Unless I successfully claim the computer wasn't under my control at the time, of course ("the hackers are controlling my MIIIND!").

 

[Killertje]

Such a small and young looking person would be perfect for a pedophile I think. The pedo is getting what he wants and the general publics opinion shouldn't matter since they aren't actually minors. Ofcourse pedos generally prefer kids because they will do anything a grownup says, not because they are small.

 

[Casual Shinji]

So you're saying all those midget pornstars should probably avoid working in Australia then.

They should anyway, considering most of the animals will be trying to eat them.

Or put them in their pouches.

Now I have a mental image of Peter Dinklage in a kangaroo pouch.

We must make this vision a reality even if it means kidnapping Mr Dinklage and smuggling him into Australia in a pillowcase.

I don't know man, have you seen that guy's beard? I don't wanna fuck with that!

 

[VanQ]

So you're saying all those midget pornstars should probably avoid working in Australia then.

Actually, it's something closer to "women with a breast size smaller than the larger portion of the C-cup aisle" should avoid working in Australia. You see, the primary way they judge and enfore that particular law the OP is talking about is by breast size.

It is literally illegal to rent, distribute or own any pornographic material with a woman whose breasts appear to be smaller than a C-cup. To be fair, a few places do sell these materials as long as the actresses involved are confirmed to be over 18 and most law enforcement turn a blind eye because it's bloody stupid. But that's the extent of how ridiculous the law is.

Seriously, an actress can be confirmed 30+ years old and it can still be illegal to distribute or own any pornographic material of her. I haven'theard any cases of the law coming down on anyone for watching A-cup Honeys 13 or anything, but it's there, it's in writing, and again it's bloody stupid.

 

[Thaluikhain]

So you're saying all those midget pornstars should probably avoid working in Australia then.

Actually, it's something closer to "women with a breast size smaller than the larger portion of the C-cup aisle" should avoid working in Australia. You see, the primary way they judge and enfore that particular law the OP is talking about is by breast size.

It is literally illegal to rent, distribute or own any pornographic material with a woman whose breasts appear to be smaller than a C-cup. To be fair, a few places do sell these materials as long as the actresses involved are confirmed to be over 18 and most law enforcement turn a blind eye because it's bloody stupid. But that's the extent of how ridiculous the law is.

Seriously, an actress can be confirmed 30+ years old and it can still be illegal to distribute or own any pornographic material of her. I haven'theard any cases of the law coming down on anyone for watching A-cup Honeys 13 or anything, but it's there, it's in writing, and again it's bloody stupid.

It is? I thought that was a myth.

I was led to believe it just became easier with people who looked obviously older, people didn't want the hassle of maybe having to deal with police, rather than it being illegal otherwise.

OTOH, IIRC, they do flat out ban certain women due to the shape of their labia.

 

[DataSnake]

This reminds me of a court case that happened in Puerto Rico. Basically a tourist was stopped at customs, and in his bag he had a porn video of a porn star named Lupe Fuentes, who looked underage in the video. The guy was arrested and put in on trial for child pornography charges. The only way he was released was Lupe Fuentes actually flew from America to Puerto Rico, showed the prosecutor her passport, which showed that she was 23, and then in court gave testimony to the fact that she was over 18 when the video had been filmed (all evidence that the prosecutor could have gotten with a 5 minute phone call to the production company that had made the video).

The whole thing would be funny if it wasn't so stupidly pathetic.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=30190

So she rearranged her work schedule, booked a plane flight across the country at her own expense, and made an appearance in court all to help out some guy she'd never even met? I think Ms. Fuentes just restored a bit of my faith in humanity.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

It could quite easily be argued that having someone who looks like a minor and pretends to be one for the camera is as bad as having an actual minor in front of the camera.

How? How on Earth can it be as bad?

If you put an actual child "in front of a camera" then it's an actual child that's being hurt and abused. If you don't, then there isn't a child being abused.

Yes, it can be argued that simulated child porn is bad, but it cannot be argued that it is as bad as real child porn, because it is factually not. (Unless you don't think that a child being abused is bad.)

No one mentioned hurting anyone. That's another story entirely. But as mentioned in my prior post, it is *not* an issue of consent or even of actual child abuse. That is not the question being posed (since the issue of actual children in adult films is unarguably and comprehensively answered already). The issue is that of child porn and feeding the lusts of paedophiles. In this regard, there is no difference between someone who is 15 and looks their age, or someone who is 20 and looks like/is being passed off as 15.

 

[JemothSkarii]

I once went out with a girl, barely got to 5 feet tall at age 18 and had an almost B-cup. That said she was rather sexually charged earlier than that and other people didn't seem to have trouble having sex with her. I certainly found her attractive at the time, but now she has a dyed fauxhawk and it looks terrible-

Anyways, inversely, my recent ex said she wouldn't feel comfortable fucking me if I clean shaved my face since I apparently look 15-16 if I do (I'm 21). Guess it comes from the whole societal thing of 'all pedophiles are bad m'kay?' but that is another basket of eggs. Basically, it should be okay to bang them if they are of age, even if the whole age thing is a bit....grey?

Plus that whole small breasts and female orgasms are illegal thing was debunked as others have probably mentioned.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

Another person with that mindset huh? I really do not see how porn is more damaging to women than beneficial to society. Heck, I don't see how porn is damaging at all. Furthermore, have you ever stopped to consider that you don't have to be a paedophile to enjoy young looking women? You can just be young yourself. Or actually be attracted by young women. If an 18 year old is allowed to marry a 50 year old, why can't that same 50 year old watch porn with an 18 year old in it?

They can in countries where it's legal.

If you don't see how porn is damaging at all then you're eyes are closed. You can google for articles and many reports on the subject. In short, it, particularly now that it's freely available on the Internet for minors to find, creates people with unrealistic expectations of sex, skewed views of the opposite sex and their own, it is the most demeaning and derogatory, most sexist treatment of women who are nothing more than a collection of body parts, objects for men to use and abuse for their sexual gratification.

It's particularly amusing to see porn defended on this site, where so many teens portray themselves as champions for women's rights and fairer portrayal of women in games. I will say this unequivocally and without any hesitation: anyone who claims to lament the existence of skimpy armours, large breasts and women's portrayal in games but watches and approves of porn, is a hypocrite of the absolute highest order.

This is a case of government overstepping it's boundaries imo. Yes the government is there to run the country, decide on what's best for us, and other such things. But said decisions should not impede on a person's fundamental rights. Like freedom. Who is the government to dictate whom can or can't be in porn once they're adults by law?

The government reflects the zeitgeist, the culture, the social norms and desires of the populace they govern. They have every right, particularly if many people in said society feel that way. The law passed because the majority of their Parliament voted it in. That reflects the will of the people. The government also censored Saints Row IV in Oz.

 

[VanQ]

It is? I thought that was a myth.

I was led to believe it just became easier with people who looked obviously older, people didn't want the hassle of maybe having to deal with police, rather than it being illegal otherwise.

OTOH, IIRC, they do flat out ban certain women due to the shape of their labia.

I haven't heard about the labia thing, but according to my friend that owns and manages his own Adult Store, it most certainly isn't a myth.

I'm curious, what kind of shaped labia gets banned?

 

[Ickorus]

This reminds me of a court case that happened in Puerto Rico. Basically a tourist was stopped at customs, and in his bag he had a porn video of a porn star named Lupe Fuentes, who looked underage in the video. The guy was arrested and put in on trial for child pornography charges. The only way he was released was Lupe Fuentes actually flew from America to Puerto Rico, showed the prosecutor her passport, which showed that she was 23, and then in court gave testimony to the fact that she was over 18 when the video had been filmed (all evidence that the prosecutor could have gotten with a 5 minute phone call to the production company that had made the video).

The whole thing would be funny if it wasn't so stupidly pathetic.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=30190

Nah, that's still a little bit funny even if it is, as you say, pathetic at the same time.

Must be said though, that porn star has my respect for flying out there to help some poor guy she didn't even know, now that is great customer service.

 

[sanquin]

They can in countries where it's legal.

If you don't see how porn is damaging at all then you're eyes are closed. You can google for articles and many reports on the subject. In short, it, particularly now that it's freely available on the Internet for minors to find, creates people with unrealistic expectations of sex, skewed views of the opposite sex and their own, it is the most demeaning and derogatory, most sexist treatment of women who are nothing more than a collection of body parts, objects for men to use and abuse for their sexual gratification.

It's particularly amusing to see porn defended on this site, where so many teens portray themselves as champions for women's rights and fairer portrayal of women in games. I will say this unequivocally and without any hesitation: anyone who claims to lament the existence of skimpy armours, large breasts and women's portrayal in games but watches and approves of porn, is a hypocrite of the absolute highest order.

1: Okay, I do agree that porn gives a very skewed image of what sex should be. I don't agree with it being as demeaning as you say it is though.
2: I personally don't think of myself as a champion of women's rights. I think the whole feminism debate thing that happens on this site is a bit pointless, and better done in more direct media. And I have no problem with skimpy armors, as well as the buffed, rugged hero type that men are portrayed as in games.

The government reflects the zeitgeist, the culture, the social norms and desires of the populace they govern. They have every right, particularly if many people in said society feel that way. The law passed because the majority of their Parliament voted it in. That reflects the will of the people. The government also censored Saints Row IV in Oz.

I find that viewpoint a bit naive. In my opinion the people have far less say in such matters as the government wants you to believe. Yes the people elect whom they want to decide for them. But in my opinion those elected politicians don't always reflect what the people want.

 

[bug_of_war]

regarding a law that Australia passed back in 2010 wherein they stated that they would ban pornography featuring women that "looked" younger than 18.

Yeah Australia (much as I love living here) has some stupid laws, but so do other countries. The law isn't meant to suppress petite women's sexuality, it's meant to stop young girls whom are under age being in highly sexual environments. Traci Lords was able to do porn at 14 because she was able to fool the people into believing she was 18. So yeah, better safe than sorry

 

[Ihateregistering1]

Another person with that mindset huh? I really do not see how porn is more damaging to women than beneficial to society. Heck, I don't see how porn is damaging at all. Furthermore, have you ever stopped to consider that you don't have to be a paedophile to enjoy young looking women? You can just be young yourself. Or actually be attracted by young women. If an 18 year old is allowed to marry a 50 year old, why can't that same 50 year old watch porn with an 18 year old in it?

They can in countries where it's legal.

If you don't see how porn is damaging at all then you're eyes are closed. You can google for articles and many reports on the subject. In short, it, particularly now that it's freely available on the Internet for minors to find, creates people with unrealistic expectations of sex, skewed views of the opposite sex and their own, it is the most demeaning and derogatory, most sexist treatment of women who are nothing more than a collection of body parts, objects for men to use and abuse for their sexual gratification.

It's particularly amusing to see porn defended on this site, where so many teens portray themselves as champions for women's rights and fairer portrayal of women in games. I will say this unequivocally and without any hesitation: anyone who claims to lament the existence of skimpy armours, large breasts and women's portrayal in games but watches and approves of porn, is a hypocrite of the absolute highest order.

This is a case of government overstepping it's boundaries imo. Yes the government is there to run the country, decide on what's best for us, and other such things. But said decisions should not impede on a person's fundamental rights. Like freedom. Who is the government to dictate whom can or can't be in porn once they're adults by law?

The government reflects the zeitgeist, the culture, the social norms and desires of the populace they govern. They have every right, particularly if many people in said society feel that way. The law passed because the majority of their Parliament voted it in. That reflects the will of the people. The government also censored Saints Row IV in Oz.

Sorry but research refutes much of what you're saying.

Like it or not, porn is a type of media, and like all types of media can have different effects on different people. Are there some people who porn will affect negatively and mess up their perceptions of sex and women? Of course, just like there are some people who watching action movies will affect their perception of violence, and some people for whom playing violent video games will desensitize them to violence. Everyone is different, and thus media cannot universally be said to have this effect or that effect on people viewing it.

As far as I'm concerned, if you're of age then you can do whatever the heck you want, regardless of whether you look like you're 10 or 30. Though I will admit, sometimes certain women who are in their 20s but look incredibly young kinda creeps me out. Like when I hear guys talk about how hot Ellen Page is. Sorry, I know she's like 23, but as far I'm concerned she looks like she's 13.