I will not stand for this! Attack, my kitten legions, attack!bigfatcarp93 said:
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Smithsonian Study Reveals the Murderous Habits of Cats
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...No! Stop rubbing agaisnt my legs!
Cats are vicious bastards, and always have been. My cat once beheaded a whole family of bunnies, no bodies just the heads. There natural killers, and if I were a small animal I would be scared shitless of cats.
Cats kill for play, cats kill for sport, and cats kill for pleasure. they are so human like it is creepy 
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ted nugent love him or hate him has been on about this for years, happily shooting any cat he could on his land.
my thing is keep your cats indoors there is no reason to let them roam the neighborhood, its bad for the local wildlife, it is bad for their health with various worms, ticks, fights, cars, people that hate cats, out there that will shorten you cats lifespan.
. ted nugent love him or hate him has been on about this for years, happily shooting any cat he could on his land.
my thing is keep your cats indoors there is no reason to let them roam the neighborhood, its bad for the local wildlife, it is bad for their health with various worms, ticks, fights, cars, people that hate cats, out there that will shorten you cats lifespan.
"collisions with buildings."
Sorry, but that's 80% the bird's fault. It's not like there aren't cliffs and tall trees in nature that they can fly into as well.
But this is evolution baby, on the one hand species adapt to environmental pressures, on the other hand they will just go extinct and we'll only be left with Rattus rattus. Now that's a species that knows how to survive.
I'm no biologist, but I think the rat's secret is their aggression when attacked unlike so many other small animals that try to flee. Now fleeing may have a higher individual success rate, but the few times a cat has been chased away by a rat trying to gouge it's eyes out will make it afraid of ever trying to hunt another rat again. So cat's (and other predators) don't hunt rats.
I don't know why cats don't hunt rats. I certainly see enough of them along the river, but my Gran's cat, that little killer only hunts little water vowel like things. They certainly aren't rats.
Sorry, but that's 80% the bird's fault. It's not like there aren't cliffs and tall trees in nature that they can fly into as well.
But this is evolution baby, on the one hand species adapt to environmental pressures, on the other hand they will just go extinct and we'll only be left with Rattus rattus. Now that's a species that knows how to survive.
I'm no biologist, but I think the rat's secret is their aggression when attacked unlike so many other small animals that try to flee. Now fleeing may have a higher individual success rate, but the few times a cat has been chased away by a rat trying to gouge it's eyes out will make it afraid of ever trying to hunt another rat again. So cat's (and other predators) don't hunt rats.
I don't know why cats don't hunt rats. I certainly see enough of them along the river, but my Gran's cat, that little killer only hunts little water vowel like things. They certainly aren't rats.
Oh. I've been rewarding my cats with treats when they catch things. After all, part of the reason they bring their catch back home is to show it off, and also because they think you'd want to eat it too. But all mine catch is the very occasional Sparrow, very small and adorable mice, and lizards. Once my cat brought home someone else's goldfish.
But the idea of keeping an animal renown for wandering around and being territorial inside a small home is ridiculous to me. Good thing we don't keep larger animals as pets, then.
But the idea of keeping an animal renown for wandering around and being territorial inside a small home is ridiculous to me. Good thing we don't keep larger animals as pets, then.
I'll have to take your word for it, New Zealand doesn't have any native mammals (baring a bat species or two).Zombie_Moogle said:
Which is probably the reason why I find the re-release of strays to be so absurd.Zombie_Moogle said:You guys have Kiwis though, and they're kinda awesomeEd130 said:
The Oatmeal published similar findings [http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill] a couple of months ago. Different figures from a different study, but the same conclusion: cats are evil little bastards who would murder you to death if you gave them the chance.
Another study of the pretty damn obvious. The most I've seen recently with regards to cat policy of late is a lot of shelters making would be owners sign an agreement that their cats will be indoor only cats. That would seem to be a step in the right direction. Anecdotaly I can say that it's had some impact as my parents cats (12 years old male and 14 year old female) are indoor/outdoor cats and have pretty much depopulated their property and the surrounding properties of small mammals while occasionally taking out a bird. My roommates cats are indoor only and much younger (3 year old brother and sister) than my parents cats while also being much shittier hunters having only taken out 1 of the 4 mice we've seen in the house (mouse traps have done more work than these cats).
Not claiming that the conclusion is necessarily false, and as evidenced by the comments in this thread most are already aware of the efficency with which felines hunt, but the study is just poor science all around.
They took previous studies, mostly small ones, with completely different conditions and controls and tried to normalize it for a larger population under more general condtions. They then made a lot of assumptions based on the number of animals, the frequency of their outdoor time, their activity time, etc. They then made some estimates and attached them to the previous assumptions and then finally ran the model.
If I was voting for journal admission, this wouldn't even make it past my first scan through for consideration. I would be hard pressed not to circular file this.
They took previous studies, mostly small ones, with completely different conditions and controls and tried to normalize it for a larger population under more general condtions. They then made a lot of assumptions based on the number of animals, the frequency of their outdoor time, their activity time, etc. They then made some estimates and attached them to the previous assumptions and then finally ran the model.
If I was voting for journal admission, this wouldn't even make it past my first scan through for consideration. I would be hard pressed not to circular file this.
A margin that large sounds like guesswork to me. It's ten billion. TEN. BILLION. I'm not buying it, but I will say cat owners should have their pets spayed or neutered (as I have).
My cat's name was simply Thomas. Then he killed enough rodents on my farm to earn the surname Mousebane. Then he killed a goddamned cottontail (which are growing out of control because of the local idiots shooting cyotes) that was in the barn. Thump, crash, bang, screech, and he came out dragging the thing between his legs. His current title is Sir Thomas Baneclaw.
And we love them because of that.Zachary Amaranth said:
Cats really want to take over the world, they already conquered the hearts of humans.
Now only the physical part remains
(Addressing a cat in a disgustingly cutesy voice) Who's a vicious little killer? You are! Yes you are!
I live in a rural area, so I tend to get mice, and my house has them right now, we have to cats one who is big and clumsy (nicknamed Lumpy, but his real name is cowboy. He lays around the house in areas that are heavily used, and is quite like a giant lump)and has claws, the other is quite nimble but was de-clawed, (I call him Squeaky due to his squeaky voice) he was owned by my grandmother who de-clawed him. These two work in tandem with each other, it's quite interesting to watch them. Squeaky will catch them and keep the mouse there by toying with it until Lumpy shows up and usually finishes the job and kills it. These two have kept the mouse situation under control, and I'm glad that we have cats.
