Smoking. I do it because I love it.

[FactualSquirrel]

I am severely against it publicly, although I couldn't care less if you do it in privacy.

I agree. Here in Japan there are all these new 'smoke free' zones being introduced but it seems that old men and 'wannabe gangster/popstar' guys think the signs mean 'free to smoke'. Japan has some of the worst smoking manners I have ever seen. Some young bugger lit up in the subway a few days ago. I reminded him how it had been non smoking for years and he answered me with mystery in his voice, 'so desu ka?'.

The way I look at it is this:
Me no smoking does nothing to harm anyone (harm, not 'put out'). Therefore, smoking and walking down a narrow Japanese street, stinking it up for 100 metres behind you, is offensive.

PS: thumbs up for not writing 'could care less'.

Ahh well, at least your government is trying.

Britain introduced "no smoking within public indoo areas", which helps alot, but now there's loads of people standing outside pubs and whatnot.

PS: Okay, now I'm intrigued as to why this is a good thing.

 

[MetalMonkey74]

Cigarettes = bleh

i do smoke weed though

 

[MelziGurl]

Giving it up has a lot to do with mental will power, but it's not going to work if you aren't giving it up for your own reasons. I was cold turkey for a few months, but found that I needed an occasional fix until I could give up completely. And if your body is addicted then you are addicted, there are no two ways about it unfortunately.

True this. I smoked for about 3 years, and I never managed to quit for myself because I enjoyed it too much and I wasn't dying from it there and then (yeah, i know, technically I was probably dying a tiny bit). Then I got together with my girlfriend, who never asked my not to smoke until I asked her if she would prefer I give up. She said yes and I haven't touched cigarette, roll-up, nor pipe since(Yes, I did smoke a pipe. I was 21 and I smoked a pipe ). So yeah, if you have a reason it should be relatively easy to give up. I was never on a pack a day, but there's no doubt I was addicted, as I still get a bit of a craving when I see the packets of tobacco behind the counter in my local shop.

I gave up cigarettes for basically the same reason you did. Firstly, it upset my family because at the time that I had actually started my grandmother had not long beforehand passed away from smoking related causes and I was suffering depression.

Secondly, I had just started a relationship that in the beginning was an interstate relationship but when my now fiancee told me he'd move to me his one request was that I give up smoking. The decision to give them up as done me a world of good, my health is improving and I'm going to marry the one person who I can really credit with saving me from myself. And I can honestly say that I liked cigarettes and I still crave them but have never looked back and regretted it.

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

As for people who hate the smell...

I hate the smell of it being smoked. Most 'backy' smells wretched. I have however noticed some cherry flavoured pipe tobacco that isn't too bad though.

Smoking itself rivals having deodorant sprayed directly in my face - I just hate those two smells with a passion. POLs I don't mind though (petrols oils lubricants) - disel engines that other people seem to hate I really don't mind the smell of, weird.

 

[Julianking93]

I hate smoking.


I don't care if you smoke, just don't do it around me.

 

[UberNoodle]

I am severely against it publicly, although I couldn't care less if you do it in privacy.

I agree. Here in Japan there are all these new 'smoke free' zones being introduced but it seems that old men and 'wannabe gangster/popstar' guys think the signs mean 'free to smoke'. Japan has some of the worst smoking manners I have ever seen. Some young bugger lit up in the subway a few days ago. I reminded him how it had been non smoking for years and he answered me with mystery in his voice, 'so desu ka?'.

The way I look at it is this:
Me no smoking does nothing to harm anyone (harm, not 'put out'). Therefore, smoking and walking down a narrow Japanese street, stinking it up for 100 metres behind you, is offensive.

PS: thumbs up for not writing 'could care less'.

Ahh well, at least your government is trying.

Britain introduced "no smoking within public indoo areas", which helps alot, but now there's loads of people standing outside pubs and whatnot.

PS: Okay, now I'm intrigued as to why this is a good thing.

In my homeland of Australia, I think that one cannot smoke near public doorways. That's good. Where i live in Japan, the city says that smoking on the street is not allowed (though they never seem enforce it) so cafes have to place their ashtrays in their 'private property', which unfortunately usually right next to the door. The smoke just comes in anyway.

PS: I mentioned that because the 'I could care less' mistake is one of my pet peeves. I hope no one tries to justify it. It's plain wrong.

 

[UberNoodle]

Who would want a censored internet?

Let those that chose to partake in smoking smoke. It makes us stronger because we are able to see a different perspective.

Certainly, but let those that don't want to be affected by the smoke, not be affected.
Not smoking doesn't hurt a soul.

 

[Camembert]

Smoking itself rivals having deodorant sprayed directly in my face - I just hate those two smells with a passion.

I cannot bear it when I'm on public transport or in a lecture room and some halfwitted moron who'd rather smell of synthetic crap than of a tiny hint of (natural!) B.O. starts spraying that shit around. It makes me seethe with anger, in fact.

It is so disgusting.

Anyway, I'm one of those hippies who use PitRok mineral stuff and Tom's of Maine all-natural deodorant.

 

[Bloodstain]

I'm used to the smell, but passive smoking isn't fun, you know.

I never smoked, but I'll try it some day so I know how it feels. Experience ftw.

 

[FactualSquirrel]

I am severely against it publicly, although I couldn't care less if you do it in privacy.

I agree. Here in Japan there are all these new 'smoke free' zones being introduced but it seems that old men and 'wannabe gangster/popstar' guys think the signs mean 'free to smoke'. Japan has some of the worst smoking manners I have ever seen. Some young bugger lit up in the subway a few days ago. I reminded him how it had been non smoking for years and he answered me with mystery in his voice, 'so desu ka?'.

The way I look at it is this:
Me no smoking does nothing to harm anyone (harm, not 'put out'). Therefore, smoking and walking down a narrow Japanese street, stinking it up for 100 metres behind you, is offensive.

PS: thumbs up for not writing 'could care less'.

Ahh well, at least your government is trying.

Britain introduced "no smoking within public indoo areas", which helps alot, but now there's loads of people standing outside pubs and whatnot.

PS: Okay, now I'm intrigued as to why this is a good thing.

In my homeland of Australia, I think that one cannot smoke near public doorways. That's good. Where i live in Japan, the city says that smoking on the street is not allowed (though they never seem enforce it) so cafes have to place their ashtrays in their 'private property', which unfortunately usually right next to the door. The smoke just comes in anyway.

PS: I mentioned that because the 'I could care less' mistake is one of my pet peeves. I hope no one tries to justify it. It's plain wrong.

Oh, that sucks, dude, I don't even understand why anyone would start smoking anymore, it just seems pointless to me.

PS: ahh, okay.

 

[UberNoodle]

Oh, that sucks, dude, I don't even understand why anyone would start smoking anymore, it just seems pointless to me.

PS: ahh, okay.

It's cheap here. Just a few dollars equivalent, though it is going to get a new tax on it. A few of my best mates smoke like chimneys and they say it's a great social prop, like a drink in the hand.

Nahh he was wlaking by and said something, so i ofcourse retaliated with a cocky comment which he then stopped and started to lecture me about the dangers of smoking.

Also i had a conversation with my friends earlier and he made me realise, all these people bitching and moaning about how we are affecting their health when the tax from our tobacco purchases pay for the NHS, so essentially we are paying for your health service.

It's not that i don't like non-smokers just when they haven't smoked before and preach about things they don't know about just gets me all riled up!!!

Sorry to butt in. I fully agree with supporting your freedom to smoke, I wouldn't lecture anyone on any harm I perceive that they are doing to themselves. I would be a hypocrite. I drink too much and eat badly. I am an Net insomniac too. Yet, picture this scene if you will:

A few years ago I was watching a kids performance in a public shopping arcade. It was in the open air section (this is Japan mind you). It was some teenage girl group that we stopped by to watch. There were parents and kids everywhere. When I say kids, I mean kids in strollers and kids in primary school and up. What really riled me up was that there were so many smoking dads, sitting amongst these kids! That is unforgivible. There was so much smoke in the air that it may as well been in a basement poker room.

But no body complained, or asked the men to stop smoking. Many Japanese fear being beaten or even KILLED for asking a smoker to go elsewhere, even if it is supposed to be a smoke free zone. Because of this, I tend to mention it. LIke the boy smoking in the subway recently (above mentioned) or this guy standing outside my Kids School smoking. I am really out of touch with what Western countries are like now, but are smokers there so selfish and lacking in awareness?

 

[MelziGurl]

Who would want a censored internet?

Let those that chose to partake in smoking smoke. It makes us stronger because we are able to see a different perspective.

Certainly, but let those that don't want to be affected by the smoke, not be affected.
Not smoking doesn't hurt a soul.

Why not just let those that "don't want to be affected by smoking" go to separate smoke-free pubs and restaurants? Why force those of us who do want to smoke to have to go outside, everywhere?

EDIT: My bad, I didn't read properly because I'm tired. So I retract that statement. I think I should be going to bed -_-

EDIT 2: It would be more costly I would imagine to have smoke-free pubs, restaurants etc. It's a cheaper alternative to simply put in a smokers area whether indoor or outdoor and I wouldn't think it that much of a burden to simply walk outside for 5-10mins while you enjoy a cigarette.

 

[Andalusa]

I don't like it, I resent the fact my mother smokes around me. She knows I don't like it. Fair enough if she wants to do it, just don't do it around me. Same goes for anyone who smokes. I would never smoke because it smells disgusting and I have better things to spend my money on.

 

[UberNoodle]

Who would want a censored internet?

Let those that chose to partake in smoking smoke. It makes us stronger because we are able to see a different perspective.

Certainly, but let those that don't want to be affected by the smoke, not be affected.
Not smoking doesn't hurt a soul.

Why not just let those that "don't want to be affected by smoking" go to separate smoke-free pubs and restaurants? Why force those of us who do want to smoke to have to go outside, everywhere?

And what about the staff? One could say, 'well get another job' but by the same token, it is not as easy as that. What it comes down to is that smokers are free to do so, but non-smokers are free to NOT do so. It IS unpleasant, sickening and does carry health risks for passive smokers (I get an allergic reaction sometimes). Now, when it comes to 'fairness', which option is perhaps asking entirely too much from a society where smokers are in the minority?

 

[MelziGurl]

Who would want a censored internet?

Let those that chose to partake in smoking smoke. It makes us stronger because we are able to see a different perspective.

Certainly, but let those that don't want to be affected by the smoke, not be affected.
Not smoking doesn't hurt a soul.

Why not just let those that "don't want to be affected by smoking" go to separate smoke-free pubs and restaurants? Why force those of us who do want to smoke to have to go outside, everywhere?

Because those of us who don't smoke are not harming other people around them...besides, it makes more sense for smokers to move outside, since their cigarettes are producing the harmful fumes. If you want to smoke that's your perogative, but don't place the responsibility on those of us who do not wish to to move outside for your benefit. There is also the consideration for the workers who do not smoke that would have to suck it up for the sake of your dirty habit. Your cigarette smoke is better outside where it isn't congesting up a room.

So because YOU don't want to inhale second hand smoke, I should not be allowed to set up a pub staffed by smokers, for people who want to smoke and drink at the same time, where people are free to do what they want? I'm not saying non-smokers should have to go outside, I'm saying that if they have such a problem with smoke in the air, they should go to specially designated non-smoking pubs. That way everyone can be happy.

Well I did retract that statement, because I falsely read the point you mentioned. But since you responded, Why should I suffer from your second-hand smoke? I can understand you wanting to kill yourself but I certainly do want to lead a healthier life. I will happily keep away from someone who is smoking, but if they wish to be up in my face about I will kindly ask them to fuck off. It's that simple. It's your personal choice to smoke, if you don't like how an establishment is run or the laws that are put in place to protect others from your habit then I'm sorry you'll just have to deal with it.