Snail Mail: Why the interest still?

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YouBecame

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Me and my best friend write letters to each other a lot of the time. Just firing off an email, while pleasant, doesn't quite hold the same effort as writing a letter, and then decorating it (if you want to) and having a cool envelope and then it's something unique and individual that you can take around :). It's just lovely!
I like getting a letter from her in the post :)
 

Thaius

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Living Contradiction said:
Thaius said:
...when it comes to textual communication of simple nature, words matter much more than the medium...when it comes to simple communication via text, without expectation of any more complex interaction (gifts, face-to-face, etc.), the words are what matters.
On that, I agree entirely. If all you are doing is communicating information and there is no expectation of deeper context or meaning beyond the text provided, words are all you need. In that instance, email trumps a letter by being faster, easier to obtain, and harder to lose.

However, I do not agree with this...

...there is no real reason the words on (a) letter should mean anything more or less than the same words on an email. Signed and sealed with a kiss means nothing, really; there is no actual received kiss and no actual physical interaction. The sender may as well have kissed his computer screen and traced over the text with his finger and it would have the same effect: that is to say, none at all. Of course, most people do find significance in this (which is why I went along with it for my girlfriend's sake), but it is simply because of this cultural standard: there is no actual reason why handwriting should hold any more significance than typed words.
Visual communication doesn't just confine itself to words, Thaius. It's the reason greeting cards have made the jump into email, complete with fuzzy bears and glowing hearts. Even the text itself can have greater meaning just by changing the font used to communicate.

For instance, if I write in boldface font, I've just drawn the attention of my audience to a certain passage and granted greater significance to those particular words. The words themselves haven't changed but their meaning has. Similarly, if I WRITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS AND DO SO FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME, people will wonder, "Why is this man shouting?" I haven't uttered a single breath, yet I'm shouting, demanding greater attention for my text.

Finally no, sealing a letter with a kiss has no actual physical interaction between the sender and the recipient. However, it implies the following from the sender: If I could reach you, I would kiss you. Kissing a computer screen does not leave any significant change on the text because nobody except the sender can see it and divine its meaning.

Could the same message be written at the end of an email though? Yes. Would the written words have the same impact as a kiss on the outside of an envelope? Perhaps. It depends on whether or not the recipient is willing to attach meaning to something other than text and, as you have proven, not everyone does so.
I never said the text had to be simple. I'm fully aware of the tone and emphasis given to text by things like boldface and italic font styles. That is part of it all, an integral part of text communication (on the computer, at least: not quite so much in handwritten text). Sorry, I thought that was inherently included in what I was saying.

Pictures can of course add meaning as well, but this is fully possible on the computer (even with videos and sound bytes, or simple programs), via attachments (the less creative and effective way, for sure), embedding, or even the e-cards you mentioned.

I do see what you're saying about the kiss, but if its only purpose is to communicate that the sender would kiss the receiver if it were possible, I know plenty of people who could communicate that in writing in poetic and beautiful ways that would take your breath away. Even without that, though, it's easy to communicate it through words, or a picture of a lipstick kiss or something: either way, the message is received, and it means the same thing regardless of how it was communicated. I still see no real added meaning to a handwritten letter, even with pictures or kisses. All those things communicate something, something that can be communicated just as effectively, and even as romantically, as a handwritten letter with pictures and kisses.

Your arguments are well written and well thought out, but I'm still not seeing it.
 

Plurralbles

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I would only write letters to employers I want to impress or older people who would appreciate calligraphy, if I knew how to write in it.
 

TrogzTheTroll

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Evertw said:
That more effort was put into it, it's something physical, you can hold it, you can soak it, use wax seals and the best, burn it, I'd like to see you burn your Ipad or computer.
Someone should really make an app that makes your e-mail appear to be burning up.
 

Living Contradiction

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Thaius said:
Living Contradiction said:
Thaius said:
-snippity snip-
I never said the text had to be simple. I'm fully aware of the tone and emphasis given to text by things like boldface and italic font styles. That is part of it all, an integral part of text communication (on the computer, at least: not quite so much in handwritten text). Sorry, I thought that was inherently included in what I was saying.

Pictures can of course add meaning as well, but this is fully possible on the computer (even with videos and sound bytes, or simple programs), via attachments (the less creative and effective way, for sure), embedding, or even the e-cards you mentioned.

I do see what you're saying about the kiss, but if its only purpose is to communicate that the sender would kiss the receiver if it were possible, I know plenty of people who could communicate that in writing in poetic and beautiful ways that would take your breath away. Even without that, though, it's easy to communicate it through words, or a picture of a lipstick kiss or something: either way, the message is received, and it means the same thing regardless of how it was communicated. I still see no real added meaning to a handwritten letter, even with pictures or kisses. All those things communicate something, something that can be communicated just as effectively, and even as romantically, as a handwritten letter with pictures and kisses.

Your arguments are well written and well thought out, but I'm still not seeing it.
Thank you, Thaius. You've been patient in clarifying your position and I appreciate that. Hopefully, this posting will clear up my argument.

What I'm trying to refute is something that you stated in your initial argument...

...in the case of a letter, your words are what matters. To ascribe importance on any other aspect of it is frivolous and stupid...
...and I think I've managed to succeed in coaxing you into admitting that visual communication is considerably more than just words. Your argument goes well beyond that though. You have stated (yes, I'm paraphrasing) that email and letters are equivalent in all ways visual (that is to say, the text can be modified in any way, visual stimuli other than text are possible, etc.) and that, because of that, letters are obsolete and an indication of mild cultural masochism which is interpreted as possessing value simply for its own sake.

I agree that, visually, emails and letters are equivalent. But it isn't a desire to suffer that causes a letter to be handwritten; It is intimacy.

By and large, the human culture puts a good deal of stock in intimacy, in sharing of feeling and experience of a private nature. It's why we collect things, keep items that may not have inherent value in and of themselves, but which contain emotional resonance of an intimate feeling or experience for us. We keep theatre ticket stubs to remember the thrill of a first date. We keep a hand print ashtray that was a gift from a young relative, even if we don't smoke, to remember that relative's pride and sense of accomplishment. We keep a letter written from a dear friend while she was in a foreign country, complete with the envelope it came in, to remember that person, frozen in time. These are our artifacts, our touchstones, things that remind us of ourselves and those who touched our lives and they are all intimate.

This is not to say that email cannot be intimate or cannot contain intimate information, but it is intimacy on a different scale. With email, the intimacy has to pass through a filter: the filter of the visual. If it isn't visual, it can't get into an email. Letters have more sensual impact than that, embracing the tactile and the nasal senses with the feel and scent of the paper and ink.

And no, printers cannot match this. Even the most cutting edge printer, armed with the very finest of inks and papers, cannot duplicate a person's handwriting without the handwritten text already existing (in which case, why not just put it in an envelope?) or second guess a sender's choice of writing implement and stationary. It could be argued that email can include aural (sound) attachments but so can letters and, in both cases, additional technology is needed to bring the sound into perceivable range, so call that a draw.

This extra sensual capacity sets letters apart from email and makes them intimate to us in a way that email cannot, at present, match. A letter's intimacy is not inherently superior to an email's, any more than someone who is physically strong but intellectually weak is inherently superior to a physically weak but intellectually strong person. It is merely different and as such one can be preferred over the other without denigrating the other.

So there you have it: A deconstruction of what sets email and letters apart and why, while they may resemble each other considerably in form and function, they really are two different means of communication. Maybe one day email will be able to mirror letters as far as sensory and intimate value goes but somehow, I can't picture that happening. Since the creation of the printing press, technology has changed the way we look at letters and they're still here. They survived the advent of the typewriter, the telegram, and, yes, email. Not because they are tidier or faster, but because they go beyond the visual to reach their audience through other sensual communication and to exist as intimate artifacts of our lives.
 

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TrogzTheTroll said:
Evertw said:
That more effort was put into it, it's something physical, you can hold it, you can soak it, use wax seals and the best, burn it, I'd like to see you burn your Ipad or computer.
Someone should really make an app that makes your e-mail appear to be burning up.
Yeah, and perhaps an app that makes any mail that seems negative to have small devil horns on it.
 

BrailleOperatic

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Snail Mail is more personal than e-mail. Actual paper with actual handwriting on it says you put actual effort into communicating the message your sending. It's its inefficiency that makes it, in some ways, preferable to e-mail.
E-mail is quick, and simple, and requires next to no effort to send. In says I want to talk, I just don't feel like putting much effort into it. Or, as is more the context in modern society, sending snail mail says "this message is of great personal importance, so I'm taking the time to write to you, rather than shoot of a little side note email."
You'd be surprised what the presence of actual hand-writing can do to a message.
 

ShadowKatt

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Okay, let's get away from the touchy feely for a moment and leave the "Personal touch" bullshit behind, how about this?

The US Mail is a federally paid for service that delivers mail to all people that have a residence, and even some that don't(PO box). It is a nearly guarunteed way to reach people for the purpose of communication. You MAY have a phone, if you pay for it. You MAY have email, if you pay for a computer and internet service. You MAY have these, but you don't NEED them, and they are not provided for you by your tax dollars. The mail is. It is a guarunteed nation-wide, and almost guarunteed worldwide, system of communication. That is why we still use it, and always will, and the day it goes away will be either a sad one that sees the end of communication as we know it, or a joyous one when the governments of the world decide to provide a technological means of communication for all.
 

XJ-0461

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Well, not that I really use either that much, but I only use traditional post for stuff like birthday cards, offical forms and that sort of stuff.
 

Anarchemitis

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Because The Man can't monitor you in real time when he has to wait for the mail to get here or there.
 

similar.squirrel

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Why do people play retro games? Or like vintage clothes? There's something special about the past, I guess. I love getting letters, anyway.
 

everfreeDragon

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I personally prefer email, it's more efficient and that's how I like things I'd rather wait a minute to get digitally what could have taken days physically. I understand the personal touch argument but I still have an overall preference for email.
 

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Even though you didn't ask me (I'm neither smart, nor attractive), I'll add my two cents.

I prefer handwritten letters, myself, because of the personal touches. The handwriting, the scent, even little imperfections like scribbled-out errors, or doodles, or torn pages. I appreciate the uniqueness of each one, as well as the time the person took to write something out and mail it to me, rather than type it out and click "send".

All e-mails look the same, apart from fonts and backgrounds, and I find them very impersonal.

It's all a matter of personal preference; not everyone appreciates sentimentality.