SO apparently navi is a language now

[BiscuitTrouser]

Yeah. So I was in my german class at school yesterday and we had to log onto like a message page thing to do a group vocabulary test and this dude was insulting people in navi. Ironically he is the guy with thre lowest grades. That is how He spends his time in lessons where he should be learning a real
language that can get him somewhere instead of a fake one. So I want to know escapists. What are your thoughts on navi being a Language?


Oh and ps. My german teacher is now taking the piss outa him.

This has to be one of the most stupid things i've ever heard. Avatar wasnt a fantastic movie. It wasnt even a good movie. It was good CGI but never a good movie. I bet he thinks its cool, what a waste. Tell him hes a moron and that its not impressive, or interesting its just the most annoying thing in the world. Its not funny it just sounds odiotic. I hate these kinds of people who do these stupid things then boast about it like its something to be proud of.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

I tried for a while to get a Klingon fraternity going in college. Obviously, it didn't take off because the college administrators thought it was stupid. I even explained that the original "pre-ridge" Klingons were basically space Romans. They remained nonplussed.

Point is, I don't see anything wrong with some kid learning, and even putting the fictional language to use. It is a problem, however, that he seems to use it to insult people without their knowledge. It's totally reasonable for the German teacher to give him every ounce of shit he deserves for being a disrespectful ass, but if I can do what I want, he has every right to do the same.

 

[Your Nightmare]

What exactly does he think he's achieving by wasting his time on a fictional language?

Meh, what do I achieve on a internet forum, doesn't exactly help with anything that determines me as an individual (Excluding setting up a business)

Saying that, there is a lot of pointless things in this world..
Sleep..what a waste of time

 

[Slick Samurai]

Does Elvish make you look more sophisticated than "Smurfish"? Does learning Klingon make you a bad-ass?

Crudely put, but basically, yeah. If you take the time to learn Sindarin or Klingon instead of "Smurfish", then it shows that you have a genuine interest in the worlds instead of focusing on what's popular at the time.

 

[Akalistos]

Does Elvish make you look more sophisticated than "Smurfish"? Does learning Klingon make you a bad-ass?

Crudely put, but basically, yeah. If you take the time to learn Sindarin or Klingon instead of "Smurfish", then it shows that you have a genuine interest in the worlds instead of focusing on what's popular at the time.

No, that's purely a fanboy act where your force yourself to live fantasy in a world that doesn't exist. You don't show genuine interest in THIS WORLD. There also a point were fandom turn into a obsession. I like Power Rangers, but i don't wear a morpher as a belt buckle because That would be crossing the line. If you cross the line, your no better than those that did it themselves, may that be for Tolkien or for the Smurf. And, don't you think that people that learn klingon didn't do it when Star Trek was popular? The answer is YES. Learning an fictional language will always be about what's popular, otherwise you wouldn't keep the idea alive.

 

[Akalistos]

What exactly does he think he's achieving by wasting his time on a fictional language?

Meh, what do I achieve on a internet forum, doesn't exactly help with anything that determines me as an individual (Excluding setting up a business)

Saying that, there is a lot of pointless things in this world..
Sleep..what a waste of time

Yeah, sleep is a waste of time. Try doing a week without sleep and you'll want to end your existence. They are people out there that would kill for a hours of sleep.

 

[nicholaxxx]

This is the same question I have with every one of these stupid things. How do you get enough words from a movie to effectively communicate with someone?

I'm going to guess an actual dictionary has been released on the internet or wherever so that fans of the movie can learn the language.

 

[Slick Samurai]

Does Elvish make you look more sophisticated than "Smurfish"? Does learning Klingon make you a bad-ass?

Crudely put, but basically, yeah. If you take the time to learn Sindarin or Klingon instead of "Smurfish", then it shows that you have a genuine interest in the worlds instead of focusing on what's popular at the time.

No, that's purely a fanboy act where your force yourself to live fantasy in a world that doesn't exist. You don't show genuine interest in THIS WORLD. There also a point were fandom turn into a obsession. I like Power Rangers, but i don't wear a morpher as a belt buckle because That would be crossing the line. If you cross the line, your no better than those that did it themselves, may that be for Tolkien or for the Smurf. And, don't you think that people that learn klingon didn't do it when Star Trek was popular? The answer is YES. Learning an fictional language will always be about what's popular, otherwise you wouldn't keep the idea alive.

I don't believe you've met the kind of people who learn fictional languages before. They don't do it because they want to live in the world or are obsessed. But they also don't learn it because it's popular. They learn it because they love the world, and understanding the world better doesn't make them a freak and it doesn't cross the line. The people who learn fictional languages are people with a dedication and love of the universe, that doesn't necessarily turn into an obsession. Yes, even the Smurfs show that they are willing to learn a complex language, even if a somewhat lackluster one. And yes, people did learn Klingon when it was popular, but even then Star Trek was somewhat obscure and not many people could tell right away if you were speaking Klingon. Smurfs learned the language from Avatar when it was a huge blockbuster. But even Smurfs primarily learned their language because of their devotion to the universe. So, please, don't talk down to those people and don't say that they cross the line.

 

[wikicated]

its man made language but its still legit but that guy sounds like dick oh i found the alphabet used in the elder scrolls it corresponds to the English alphabet 26 letters and the likes.

 

[The King of Rock and Roll]

Just as soon as furries are people too.

IE over my dead body

 

[manaman]

Ha, what a dick.

As far as I remember barely any Navi is spoken in the film, so how can he profess to know the "language"

Probably because of this post right above your post.

Well not so much this post, but the content of the post. You get the idea.

To be fair, Cameron hired a linguist to actually create the Na'vi language. so it was a proper (if fictional) language before it was actually in the film.

-m

OP: People learn to speak Klingon. People learn what they want to learn, it's a lot harder to learn something your not really interested in.

 

[Lunar Templar]

pffth ...
tell him to learn Drow, their better

but seriously ... SERIOUSLY?! he had the time to learn a fake language, but not the one he's gotta class for?! really? -.- he's retarded right? i mean why lean a fictitious language when he choose to learn a real one -.- (as i under stand, language classes are elective)
seems like a waste of time and money if he keeps going to class

 

[Akalistos]

Does Elvish make you look more sophisticated than "Smurfish"? Does learning Klingon make you a bad-ass?

Crudely put, but basically, yeah. If you take the time to learn Sindarin or Klingon instead of "Smurfish", then it shows that you have a genuine interest in the worlds instead of focusing on what's popular at the time.

No, that's purely a fanboy act where your force yourself to live fantasy in a world that doesn't exist. You don't show genuine interest in THIS WORLD. There also a point were fandom turn into a obsession. I like Power Rangers, but i don't wear a morpher as a belt buckle because That would be crossing the line. If you cross the line, your no better than those that did it themselves, may that be for Tolkien or for the Smurf. And, don't you think that people that learn klingon didn't do it when Star Trek was popular? The answer is YES. Learning an fictional language will always be about what's popular, otherwise you wouldn't keep the idea alive.

I don't believe you've met the kind of people who learn fictional languages before. They don't do it because they want to live in the world or are obsessed. But they also don't learn it because it's popular. They learn it because they love the world, and understanding the world better doesn't make them a freak and it doesn't cross the line. The people who learn fictional languages are people with a dedication and love of the universe, that doesn't necessarily turn into an obsession. Yes, even the Smurfs show that they are willing to learn a complex language, even if a somewhat lackluster one. And yes, people did learn Klingon when it was popular, but even then Star Trek was somewhat obscure and not many people could tell right away if you were speaking Klingon. Smurfs learned the language from Avatar when it was a huge blockbuster. But even Smurfs primarily learned their language because of their devotion to the universe. So, please, don't talk down to those people and don't say that they cross the line.

Ok, i don't know where to start. I'll just go along hoping I don't forget something. And no i don't know anyone that is willing to spend time learning a dead language.(since no one is a Trek,War,Avatar supernerd) I got friend who also enjoy Power Rangers but didn't practice the poses to learn them.

First: You clarely said that the difference is:"it shows that you have a genuine interest in the worlds instead of focusing on what's popular at the time." Yet you clame here afterward that:"they also don't learn it because it's popular. They learn it because they love the world." What i can gather from this is that learning a dead language is a fad, dictated by what is "in" in the moment. Even if you love something enough to learn the language, you are no better than Star War's kid.

Second: Understanding something in a book and loving it is OK. Trying to bring it out of the source material is weird. Here's a example. I read a Funny book about a group of "Dongeonaire" (Character, not players of D&D) that are incredibly dumb and unsuccessful. In the book and audio adventure, the Elf (no that her name, and she is female) is really the dumbest of the character. During a trip down the river when the were garding a ship. She climb on top of the cabin naked to get a tan. A group of pirate show up and are stun for a full 10 minutes to see the naked Elf shoot arrow at them. This give them a adventage and finally they incapacitate the pirates and run away (the boat leave them behind, you've understand) I love that book, but how would you feel if i bought a blow up doll and glue elven ear to make a replica of the scene. YOU WOULD SAY THAT I'M F'ING MAD AND NEED TO BE INTERNED. That what i want to make you see, it ok to love something but it a bad thing to turn it into a second job!

Third:

Spoiler: Smurfs

Spoiler: Na'vi

They aren't the same thing.

 

[likalaruku]

Navi? I know that language.

Hello! Hey! Look! Listen!

 

[Slick Samurai]

*Snip*

Why do you think that learning a fake language is the equivalent to being crazy? Seriously, it's just a hobby that some people do because they enjoy the universe. It isn't a job, it's a hobby. And what's so weird about that hobby? Most fake languages were articulately crafted just for the purpose of learning. Sindarin, Klingon, and Smurf languages were meant to be learned, you never see the entire language in the shows, movies, or books. People learn it because they love the universe and want to know more about it.

Don't tell me you've never found something interesting and wanted to look more into it. Besides, you said yourself that you don't know anyone who would have this as their hobby, so what gives you the right to say they're crazy? Also, the Smurf thing is a nickname, no need to get so worked up over it. (And please use spell check next time)

 

[dalek sec]

That's it, I have no choice put to declare heresy in this thread. The Emperor's most holy Inquisition has been alerted and they shall cleanse this thread in a matter of moments....

OT: I guess if they want to do it and they aren't causing any problems it shouldn't be too bad.

 

[GundamSentinel]

This is the same question I have with every one of these stupid things. How do you get enough words from a movie to effectively communicate with someone?

I ask the same question. I'm curious, is there some fan community out there extending the Na'vi language or is it something semi-official?

Weird that people want to pick up on Na'vi language. I thought it was just some freaks on deviantart with a Na'vi fetish, though maybe I'm not one to talk, as I was translating Elvish in maths class years back... ^^; (always had good grades for my languages though).

which of the couple hundred different fantasy stories in which elves had their own language are you translating?

Though really, elves are cool: I can understand THAT.

Na'vi however?

no.

not. cool. not even vaguely.

I stick to the original. A bit of Quenya and Sindarin. I even have a Tolkien grammar book and dictionary. Good fun. And the Tengwar look awesome.

 

[blankedboy]

This is the same question I have with every one of these stupid things. How do you get enough words from a movie to effectively communicate with someone?

They don't. They get it from the Wikipedia article people make up shit on.

 

[Akalistos]

*Snip*

Why do you think that learning a fake language is the equivalent to being crazy? Seriously, it's just a hobby that some people do because they enjoy the universe. It isn't a job, it's a hobby. And what's so weird about that hobby? Most fake languages were articulately crafted just for the purpose of learning. Sindarin, Klingon, and Smurf languages were meant to be learned, you never see the entire language in the shows, movies, or books. People learn it because they love the universe and want to know more about it.

Don't tell me you've never found something interesting and wanted to look more into it. Besides, you said yourself that you don't know anyone who would have this as their hobby, so what gives you the right to say they're crazy? Also, the Smurf thing is a nickname, no need to get so worked up over it. (And please use spell check next time)

You think that i didn't have a hobby that i like. Yes i have. Guess what! Contrary to typos i can spot on other post, i can't find mine because English isn't my first language. I was force to learn when Story was first introduce in videogame. "Wait", i hear you say! "You are Canadian? How come you don't speak english then?" We'll no. Quebec is the the last bastions of the "New France" that get there around the discovery of the new world. I was force to learn it unlike those around that didn't care because i wanted to know what the hell did that princess tell to Mario. In fact, i never got the Princess in another castle till i played SMB1 on a emulator. I know what it is to learn a language and the hard time you put into it. I'm still the reference around and translate to most people. "Wait again!" i hear you say. "Why do you translate something to people? Don't they have French label and thing like that" Because we imported from the rest of Canada and the Us. That mean that we either learn or wait like dumbass that France do it for us. (God, Marvel and DC are almost inexistent here. A real shame. I really wanted to read GREEN LANTERN - BLACKEST NIGHT and BRIGHTEST DAY.) I put incredibly more time in english that i should have. My grade in French where slipping from A to D over a few month. Where I'm going with this is: I know how much dedication you have to put into it. Yet, i said there better stuff to do!

As for a hobby, I was a LARPER! Meaning that for two year, i pretend that i was a scared MoFo mercenary carying a Bastard Sword, costume and all. I love medieval time and also i wore a REAL CHAINMAIL. That 30 pound on your shoulders, IN THE FREAKING SUMMER! So i guess you can say i did some stuff related to my hobby. I considered it a game! You know, there a difference between love and obsession. Any therapist call tell you that. I decided to left anything, really anything that i cared, when my love for something turn to obsession.
(also, you should spell check also, My US-EN dictionary that i installed in Firefox is going AHWOL on all your old post. Not so much on that one, but i guess that's because it's short.)