So, apparently WW is pretty good.

[Basement Cat]

I'm pleased to have read through all of the comments yet posted and haven't found a single comment that reads:

*whining little boy's voice* "The only reason they like it is because it's about a gurrrrl!"

Given that the various DC movies are largely being directed by different directors I'm not the least bit surprised to hear that one of them is getting rave first reviews---seriously, if nothing else it's just a matter of time before they manage (if only by accident) to produce a genuinely good one!

One very telling theme in the Twitter comments comes from the female reviewers. Read that article and words like "empowering", "charming", and "inspiring" keep popping out. Men and boys may not fall in love with Wonder Woman but I wouldn't be surprised if it gains staggering numbers of fangirls of all ages and backgrounds.

I find myself recalling Movie Bob's first review of Disney's Malevicient [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/9291-Maleficent-An-Unusual-Fairy-Tale-of-Revenge] where he wasn't particularly impressed but later followed up with another review [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/moviesandtv/columns/moviebob/11708-I-May-Have-Been-Wrong-About-Maleficent] where he admits that girls' and womens' reactions to the movie were so staggeringly different--and positive--that he had to admit that; "Gee, maybe it's a lot better than I first thought and not just because I wasn't the target audience."

That many posters are cynical and even hostile to any DC movie reviews being positive doesn't surprise me given how screwed up Warner Bro's has been when it comes to representing DC heroes. "NO JOKES!" was a stupid stand to take. As previously mentioned there is the fact that DC movies have generally not been as good as they could have been because they mess around with the basic characters--Pa Kent striving to undermine Clark from a very young age goes entirely against Superman's very long historical canon, for example.

I'm encouraged that Wonder Woman's first reviews are rave reviews. I only see one or two movies in theaters per year so I might see this one (in addition to Star Wars: The Last Jedi).

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

I'm pleased to have read through all of the comments yet posted and haven't found a single comment that reads:

*whining little boy's voice* "The only reason they like it is because it's about a gurrrrl!"

Given that the various DC movies are largely being directed by different directors I'm not the least bit surprised to hear that one of them is getting rave first reviews---seriously, if nothing else it's just a matter of time before they manage (if only by accident) to produce a genuinely good one!

One very telling theme in the Twitter comments comes from the female reviewers. Read that article and words like "empowering", "charming", and "inspiring" keep popping out. Men and boys may not fall in love with Wonder Woman but I wouldn't be surprised if it gains staggering numbers of fangirls of all ages and backgrounds.

I find myself recollecting Movie Bob's first review of Disney's Malevicient [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/9291-Maleficent-An-Unusual-Fairy-Tale-of-Revenge] where he wasn't particularly impressed but later followed up with another review [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/moviesandtv/columns/moviebob/11708-I-May-Have-Been-Wrong-About-Maleficent] where he admits that girls' and womens' reactions to the movie were so staggeringly different--and positive--that he had to admit that; "Gee, maybe it's a lot better than I first thought and not just because I wasn't the target audience."

That many posters are cynical and even hostile to any DC movie reviews being positive doesn't surprise me given how screwed up Warner Bro's has been when it comes to representing DC heroes. "NO JOKES!" was a stupid stand to take. As previously mentioned there is the fact that DC movies have generally not been as good as they could have been because they mess around with the basic characters--Pa Kent striving to undermine Clark from a very young age goes entirely against Superman's very long historical canon, for example.

I'm encouraged that Wonder Woman's first reviews are rave reviews. I only see one or two movies in theaters per year so I might see this one (in addition to Star Wars: The Last Jedi).

I don't want Jokes in a Superhero movie because its corny, its cringy, and it only serve to take away any and all seriousness and care I have for the chararcaters and the story.

 

[Basement Cat]

I don't want Jokes in a Superhero movie because its corny, its cringy, and it only serve to take away any and all seriousness and care I have for the chararcaters and the story.

Seriously, though, (no pun intended) I agree that folks fluttering about in silly costumes beating up generic bad guys deserves the gravest and most somber respect.[footnote]I figured you were being sarcastic so I ran with it.[/footnote]

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

I don't want Jokes in a Superhero movie because its corny, its cringy, and it only serve to take away any and all seriousness and care I have for the chararcaters and the story.

Seriously, though, (no pun intended) I agree that folks fluttering about in silly costumes beating up generic bad guys deserves the gravest and most somber respect.[footnote]I figured you were being sarcastic so I ran with it.[/footnote]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

 

[Basement Cat]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

You were serious?

 

[Natemans]

I'm pleased to have read through all of the comments yet posted and haven't found a single comment that reads:

*whining little boy's voice* "The only reason they like it is because it's about a gurrrrl!"

Given that the various DC movies are largely being directed by different directors I'm not the least bit surprised to hear that one of them is getting rave first reviews---seriously, if nothing else it's just a matter of time before they manage (if only by accident) to produce a genuinely good one!

One very telling theme in the Twitter comments comes from the female reviewers. Read that article and words like "empowering", "charming", and "inspiring" keep popping out. Men and boys may not fall in love with Wonder Woman but I wouldn't be surprised if it gains staggering numbers of fangirls of all ages and backgrounds.

I find myself recollecting Movie Bob's first review of Disney's Malevicient [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/9291-Maleficent-An-Unusual-Fairy-Tale-of-Revenge] where he wasn't particularly impressed but later followed up with another review [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/moviesandtv/columns/moviebob/11708-I-May-Have-Been-Wrong-About-Maleficent] where he admits that girls' and womens' reactions to the movie were so staggeringly different--and positive--that he had to admit that; "Gee, maybe it's a lot better than I first thought and not just because I wasn't the target audience."

That many posters are cynical and even hostile to any DC movie reviews being positive doesn't surprise me given how screwed up Warner Bro's has been when it comes to representing DC heroes. "NO JOKES!" was a stupid stand to take. As previously mentioned there is the fact that DC movies have generally not been as good as they could have been because they mess around with the basic characters--Pa Kent striving to undermine Clark from a very young age goes entirely against Superman's very long historical canon, for example.

I'm encouraged that Wonder Woman's first reviews are rave reviews. I only see one or two movies in theaters per year so I might see this one (in addition to Star Wars: The Last Jedi).

I don't want Jokes in a Superhero movie because its corny, its cringy, and it only serve to take away any and all seriousness and care I have for the chararcaters and the story.

I disagree. Many heroes need some levity to help keep a central focus based on the weight of the situation.

 

[Natemans]

Do any of these reports say if this movie treats war in a respectful manner?

BAH, I wanna know if its treats its warfare as epic and glorious as possible!!!

Okay, I think you are setting your standards of battles way too high.

Also I agree with you on LOTR's battles, but 300? Nah, I find it way too over-the-top for my tastes.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

You were serious?

And I can't say anything against you because your a mod

But seriously, I just think that humor that comes off from Superhero movies these days are just corny and cringeworthy. I mean I have a sense of humor, but I have standards and stupid corny shlock like Guardians of the Galaxy just makes me facepalm.

 

[Natemans]

I don't want Jokes in a Superhero movie because its corny, its cringy, and it only serve to take away any and all seriousness and care I have for the chararcaters and the story.

Seriously, though, (no pun intended) I agree that folks fluttering about in silly costumes beating up generic bad guys deserves the gravest and most somber respect.[footnote]I figured you were being sarcastic so I ran with it.[/footnote]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

Really? That's like having Spider-Man fight a bad guy and just talk like he's Batman instead of spouting quips.

 

[Natemans]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

You were serious?

And I can't say anything against you because your a mod

But seriously, I just think that humor that comes off from Superhero movies these days are just corny and cringeworthy. I mean I have a sense of humor, but I have standards and stupid corny shlock like Guardians of the Galaxy just makes me facepalm.

I know people have different tastes, but humor is supposed to be a form of levity for the heroes based on the burdens and makes them feel more grounded. Also Guardians rocked. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but I don't get when you mean by facepalm.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

You were serious?

And I can't say anything against you because your a mod

But seriously, I just think that humor that comes off from Superhero movies these days are just corny and cringeworthy. I mean I have a sense of humor, but I have standards and stupid corny shlock like Guardians of the Galaxy just makes me facepalm.

I know people have different tastes, but humor is supposed to be a form of levity for the heroes based on the burdens and makes them feel more grounded. Also Guardians rocked. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but I don't get when you mean by facepalm.

What I mean by facepalm is that I find the jokes just embarrising to watch.

 

[Natemans]

Yeah, I don't believe it. Same people said Suicide Squad and Ghostbusters were good. At this point its healthier and easier to assume all DC movies are terrible until they can prove otherwise.

Quite a cynical as fuck statement now isn't it?

I know people that still likes Suicide Squad now.

Its not cynical. Its more like being cautionary based on a poor track record in a film franchise's quality.

If they like it, that's fine. People can like or dislike whatever they want. All opinions are subjective.

 

[Natemans]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

You were serious?

And I can't say anything against you because your a mod

But seriously, I just think that humor that comes off from Superhero movies these days are just corny and cringeworthy. I mean I have a sense of humor, but I have standards and stupid corny shlock like Guardians of the Galaxy just makes me facepalm.

I know people have different tastes, but humor is supposed to be a form of levity for the heroes based on the burdens and makes them feel more grounded. Also Guardians rocked. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but I don't get when you mean by facepalm.

What I mean by facepalm is that I find the jokes just embarrising to watch.

Really? I found the jokes to be kinda clever and really funny. They worked well with the tone and style the film was going for.

 

[Basement Cat]

And I can't say anything against you because your a mod

But seriously, I just think that humor that comes off from Superhero movies these days are just corny and cringeworthy. I mean I have a sense of humor, but I have standards and stupid corny shlock like Guardians of the Galaxy just makes me facepalm.

I grok what you're saying. I see it from a different perspective: There's humor and there's corny humor; it's all in how you use it.

Moreover humor can positively influence a movie's pacing. Shock and awe and whatnot can all too easily become numbingly dull without pauses and counter-points.

BTW--you walked right into that gif. I couldn't help myself--you were practically begging someone to post it! XD

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Do any of these reports say if this movie treats war in a respectful manner?

BAH, I wanna know if its treats its warfare as epic and glorious as possible!!!

Okay, I think you are setting your standards of battles way too high.

Also I agree with you on LOTR's battles, but 300? Nah, I find it way too over-the-top for my tastes.

Its supposed to be over the top, like Conan the Barbarian, which makes it all the more badass.

And I have other battles to show off:

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

No I am serious. Clearly you have not read any of my posts of my many debates here for years now.

You were serious?

And I can't say anything against you because your a mod

But seriously, I just think that humor that comes off from Superhero movies these days are just corny and cringeworthy. I mean I have a sense of humor, but I have standards and stupid corny shlock like Guardians of the Galaxy just makes me facepalm.

I know people have different tastes, but humor is supposed to be a form of levity for the heroes based on the burdens and makes them feel more grounded. Also Guardians rocked. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but I don't get when you mean by facepalm.

What I mean by facepalm is that I find the jokes just embarrising to watch.

Really? I found the jokes to be kinda clever and really funny. They worked well with the tone and style the film was going for.

Its not just Guardians of the Galaxy, just the overall tone and jokes of Marvel movies in general.

 

[Natemans]

Tell me why you think that people wouldn't behave the way it was portrayed in those movies.

But movies are escapism, not reminders of how shitty the real world is.

I don't care how 'real' it is, I want to see Clark's dad love and support him. Not emotionally abuse him and tell him that he should have let his friends and classmates die to preserve his secret.

Or commit suicide in front of him to preserve his secret.

Or gaslight him by twisting his ideas around about how he's going to change the world

but shouldn't

Superman's parents are infuriatingly awful in MoS. I dont care if a real person would think that, it's just hard to watch.

Well the Escapism would be ruined anyway considering Superheroes do their thing in Modern day cities. Especially when you deal with non superhero characters.

I did not felt Escapism watching The Increadibles.

Who cares if the heroes do their thing in a modern city? Most of the Marvel heroes are in freakin' New York in the comics and hell, all of the DC films are shot and filmed in Chicago. (Side note: kinda sick of seeing Chicago in DC films. Minor nitpick, but go somewhere else to film for a city.)

Really? The Incredibles is like a computer animated film that is like if you mixed the Fantastic Four with Watchmen.

 

[Hawki]

"Here's how the world would really react to a flying man with laser eyes" isn't gravitas. It's just taking the inherently goofy premise of a superhero and playing it with a joyless poker-face, which just doesn't work.

It worked with the Dark Knight Trilogy.

Granted, that's not a 1:1 comparison (lack of laser eyes), but as a concept, it strikes me as being sound. Logan is another example.

Meanwhile Guardians 2 managed to include themes of negligent/abusive fatherhood while still starring a talking raccoon and generally being a jolly good time.

That I'll grant you. I'd probably rate GotG 2 above MoS, but both still get stamps of "okay" rather than "good."

I'm pleased to have read through all of the comments yet posted and haven't found a single comment that reads:

*whining little boy's voice* "The only reason they like it is because it's about a gurrrrl!"

Don't worry. For anyone who doesn't like it, the reverse argument will be able to be made ("you only dislike it because the protagonist has tits!")

Given that the various DC movies are largely being directed by different directors I'm not the least bit surprised to hear that one of them is getting rave first reviews---seriously, if nothing else it's just a matter of time before they manage (if only by accident) to produce a genuinely good one!

Doesn't that hold true for any franchise with multiple directors? The MCU is a case in point for me - of the ten MCU films I've seen, I can only call 3 of them "good."

That many posters are cynical and even hostile to any DC movie reviews being positive doesn't surprise me given how screwed up Warner Bro's has been when it comes to representing DC heroes. "NO JOKES!" was a stupid stand to take.

Wasn't that a rumor? There were jokes in MoS and Suicide Squad.

I only see one or two movies in theaters per year

...the hell?

I mean, your time your money, not my place to tell you how to spend them, but I see more STAGE PLAYS per year than that. 0_0

I don't want Jokes in a Superhero movie because its corny, its cringy, and it only serve to take away any and all seriousness and care I have for the chararcaters and the story.

Oh, come off it.

"No jokes" is a terrible idea for any piece of fiction. A joke doesn't make a piece of fiction corny or cringy in itself. A work can be serious while having levity.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

@Hawki

But I don't want everything to be turned into Deadpool either.

 

[Basement Cat]

Given that the various DC movies are largely being directed by different directors I'm not the least bit surprised to hear that one of them is getting rave first reviews---seriously, if nothing else it's just a matter of time before they manage (if only by accident) to produce a genuinely good one!

Doesn't that hold true for any franchise with multiple directors? The MCU is a case in point for me - of the ten MCU films I've seen, I can only call 3 of them "good."

In this case we've four or so movies and people are determined to declare that no DC movie can ever be good because of its predecessors. That's silly, of course.

That many posters are cynical and even hostile to any DC movie reviews being positive doesn't surprise me given how screwed up Warner Bro's has been when it comes to representing DC heroes. "NO JOKES!" was a stupid stand to take.

Wasn't that a rumor? There were jokes in MoS and Suicide Squad.

More than rumor later on. I remember reading one article where it was baldly stated that much of the humor inserted into Suicide Squad was a result of late reshoots stemming from severe criticism at the dearth of humor in BvS.

I only see one or two movies in theaters per year

...the hell?

I mean, your time your money, not my place to tell you how to spend them, but I see more STAGE PLAYS per year than that. 0_0

Back in high school and college I worked as an usher at movie theaters and thus became accustomed to seeing movies for free and having free drinks and popcorn as a given right.

Every since I begrudge theaters my money. Entitled, even.


*sniffs*
"You want money from ME! Do you know how many messes I've cleaned up over the years? Rambunctious customers I've dealt with?!? HOW DARE YOU!!!"

...

Well, maybe I'm not that bad but the reflex is still there. <_<