Couldn't agree more, or really add anything.Daystar Clarion said:
The only thing would be, to the people talking economics, as soon as you can put a price on human life then you are as bad as the slave traders. Utterly barbaric.
So, death penalty
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The only thing would be, to the people talking economics, as soon as you can put a price on human life then you are as bad as the slave traders. Utterly barbaric.
Getting a murdering psycho. Instead of killing him, lock him in a mental facility where's he'll spend the rest of his life having his brain picked (Psychoanalysis, brain scans, etc.) so in the future other people with his mental state can be identified earlier and repetition of his crimes can be prevented.
Because there's a difference between killing someone in a combat zone?Liquidacid23 said:
I'm not so much bothered about you volunteering to kill someone, so much as you would gladly kill someone.
Gladly killing someone is kind of what got that person into that situation in the first place...
And that is why people shouldn't be able to make the decision to kill someone.Liquidacid23 said:
Your own experiences shape your critical thinking, people used to death don't care about death.
People should not be able to decide if someone lives or dies, it is their choice. They have no choice on whether they should be punished or not, nobody is saying that, but death only begets more death.
Plus, from your less than stellar use of grammar and "lulz", I wouldn't want somebody like you making anywhere near as an important decision such as this, nor would I want you to carry out such an act.
Maybe if it's some horrendous criminal who some how keeps escaping out of prison and murdering more people or something. If it's a guy who killed without planning it and now totally regrets it, then no way.
An easy way to settle it would be to allow it for people who want it. So basically euthanasia for prisoners (honestly if I had a life sentence I'd probably choose to die).
An easy way to settle it would be to allow it for people who want it. So basically euthanasia for prisoners (honestly if I had a life sentence I'd probably choose to die).
Now thats got to be one of the stupidest things I ever read.Liquidacid23 said:
If you have no moral or ethical problems with killing, do you have any sence of moral or ethics at all?
As for the second part... this is even duber than the first part.
Yes, people kill people. But it is never good. Even if it stops someone from killing it isn't good. Necessary does not always equal good.
Sometimes it may be necessary, in war for example.
But it is rarely the best or only realistic option. Sometimes it is, hostage-situations come to mind.
Of course, if you only look at extreme cases, you might think killing someone is often a good solution.
But extreme cases are rare. In most cases, killing is the worst option.
I'm just going to point out that these views that you are spouting is not exactly endearing me to the American armed services. It's one thing to be a in a combat zone where you cannot realistically imprison every enemy soldier you find, and so are required to kill them (in defence of yourself, your fellow troops and your country), and an entirely different matter when the criminal is in a court room, and it is about calmly deciding which judgement to pass (in a combat zone, I'd imagine capturing every enemy you see would be the significantly more dangerous option, but when they are already disarmed, standing in front of you/the court, and you have the perfectly viable option of imprisoning them for the rest of their lives, then to say that you should kill them then (or sentence them to death) is just barbaric).Liquidacid23 said:
What I would like to know is if you feel this way as a result of being in the service, or if you felt that way before joining/seeing combat. On the one hand, I sincerely hope it isn't the former, as that would be upsetting, but on the other hand, I hope it isn't the latter, because it would be a shame if the very system designed to protect a country is fuelled by people with a disposition towards justifying murder.
OT: I am against the death penalty.
I am against the death penalty, that video pretty much explains why. If we kill an inmate, then we are no better than the murderer
And if we never developed levels of intelligence we would never be where we are today. What's your point? We're talking about people killing people, not survival of the fittest.Liquidacid23 said:
Killing is natural? If you're talking in terms of 'survival of the fittest' again then yes, it is natural, as it is in the whole animal kingdom for survival , not for excess.
People like you? Well you're obviously not helping anyone's 'bubble' right now, so why don't you get back out there and do what is 'necessary'?
If morals and ethics are all opinions, then go outside and strip naked, or better yet, go to any country with a government, and kill somebody. Then we'll see what the 'opinion' would be.
People like me? You don't know me or what I do, you don't know everyone else, you don't know death-row inmates. You just see what you want to see (some anti-government bile for you there).
But not your blood right? Just everyone elses. Do you think about all the other people on the other side that 'paid in blood'? Of course not.
Maybe we will one day, because it wasn't necessary today, and it probably won't be tomorrow.
It's called idealism. A Utopia is what society is working towards, or do you have a better idea of what all advancements are for?
I'm just going to point out that your post doesn't sound very sincere. On the one hand, you say you would Root For The Day! we touchy feely asshats create a society without the need for war and killing. On the other hand, you say you would root for the day we Touchy Feel Asshats! ... You don't actually seem to value what you claim to have killed for. It sounds more like you are five and we are your least favourite toy. It doesn't matter that you don't like us much, because when someone tries to play with us (in this analogy, 'play with us' is code for 'blow us up, because *X*') you get hyper-defensive and punch the other kid in the face. Not because you like us as a toy, but because you just don't want other people playing with what you see as 'yours'.Liquidacid23 said:
I honestly hope I'm wrong and this thread just has you in a shitty mood, but that's what it sounds like from where I'm sitting (in my comfy bubble).
