So everyone in the southern US is a racist hick?

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KdS_22

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ObsessiveSketch said:
ahhhh, the tigers, eh? Welp...er...I can't really say anything ^_^; what do you say to the rival of the National (sorta) champs?
Normally, mentioning a hated rival would be a quick clue towards what school said bitter mention-er belongs to. However, I truly believe that so many people hate this team for so many reasons, that you won't be able to place my school when I say...f--k Boise State e_e
Hmmm you're quite right... I have no personal opinions against Boise State but I actually have friends here at this college who hate them for various reasons. Apparently everone hates the Broncos! Maybe I'll join in just because :D
Edit: By the way, who the hell has a blue field? I mean, it's kinda cool in some ways but it just looks, I dunno, weird and wrong.
 

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Well, they're not. Because a large number of black people live in the south, too.

Also, not all Obama haters are idiots who call him a commie/Muslim/etc.

I hate him for perfectly good reasons.
 

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Randvek said:
oppp7 said:
I live in America, which, according to many other nations, is full of racist cowboys.

I love the irony.
America probably has more racist cowboys than any other nation in the world, so I fail to see the "irony." Could you explain it?
Because people are calling us racists while stereotyping an entire country/race.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Why do people think the South is bigoted?

We were the last Western society to eliminate slavery, as well as being the last to stop accepting wholeheartedly the idea of white supremacy over other races. In fact, we gave up the idea of white supremacy such a short time ago that a significant percentage of our population was raised in a time when it was the norm of thought, and generally continue those beliefs, thinly veiled.

Maybe that has something to do with it.

Give it a couple generations. It'll die down.
I agree wholeheartedly with this person!

All stereotypes have their roots in reality, the south DOES have the highest concentration of racism at the moment. However, they are a dying breed.
 

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Not directly related, but a fun comment on this whole issue in general.

I've heard it said that the people in the south are polite on the outside, and black-heartedly evil on the inside.

Conversely, everyone in New York is evil on the outside, but somewhat good on this inside.

All I know is some guy from Georgia said it, and he thinks its true.

Anyway:
Ah, stereotypes. They're such mean little devils, but I can't help but feel that to some extent they are propagated by the people who fill them. Not all people who are stereotyped are the stereotype, by all means no, but I at least know that for me, whenever some kids who dress gangsta walk in my taco bell door, all I have to look forward to is them paying two bucks for two of our burritos, and trying to get soda from asking for a water cup. Then they turn into teenagers and curse everything third word, usually the N~ one in all its many variations, and talk with a fake accent that, to me, makes them sound stupid. And every time I hear that accent, its what I come to expect.
So I stereotype, though I try otherwise. But if they just were a little more honest, or just as a group acted a little differently, it would be a different stereotype, and maybe not a negative one.
And there is always the one black military man who comes through, a sergeant, who I have heard go off on a group of teens for simply saying N~ once, to the effect of, "I and my family have not fought, sweat, and died for over sixty years just to have that word continue to exist."
Surprises always happen.

Fun fact: you essentially stereotype everyone you see. You have a set of expectations, or a preliminary judgment based on what you see. I'm not saying you're stereotyping per se, but most schools attempting to teach you something about getting a job and working through interviews inform you that the person you're being interviewed by has already made a decision in thirty seconds. I would say it safe to say that everyone does this, all the time.
 
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the_tramp said:
It's in the same sense that because I'm English I must:
1) Have bad teeth (I had a brace for over 4 years and they're as good today as they were when I got it off)
2) Drink tea (I can't stand tea, I prefer coffee)
3) Eat crumpets (Don't like them... at all)
4) Say pip pip ho and jolly good show (I can't even be bothered to refute this...)

the list goes on...

It's stereotypes that since the advent of the internet has exploded in ignorance and consequently through the popularity of the Southern stereotype in US films it isn't going to go away soon. Hell even Dame Judi Dench complained that British people are typecast as the villains in films (which is true!) and consequently a lot of British people are starring in US shows by playing Americans.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8643941.stm
While I do agree with the whole bad teeth thing (my teeth are fine by the way), I do drink lots of tea, I had crumpets for breakfast and I do say "jolly good" an awful lot...
 

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Bladecatcher said:
I've noticed that people are generally the same in terms of how racist they are. The only difference between the north and the south is that (in most cases) northerners are say whats on their mind, while southerners put on a polite facade. But I think most people get the idea that southerners are more racist because most of the extremists are in the south.
egh you say tomato i say Alaska.

Let me give an example of how many southerners feel about northerners. Well first off think about after the civil war, carpetbaggers is a phrase that comes to mind. That kind of belief has died hard. Not because we're still sore over a war that was over a century ago but a disdain for some perceived slick talking city folk coming down here and not respecting our culture.(yes i use city folk jokingly) We still run on the good old boy system around here and such so we don't take well to outsider. Yet somehow the south has found a kindred spirit in Sarah Palin, it boggles my mind really./ not directed at bladecatcher
ugh i forgot about Alaska lol. But since you mentioned the "War of Northern Aggression", (read with heavy Savanah accent) I would like to point out that alot of people are still sore about it. Case in point, people still calling the Civil War the "War of Northern Aggression". And despite what many people think, I don't think it has anything to do with slavery, but rather the South's loss of individuality. As you've said, southerners view northerners as outsiders, and I think that's because they view the South as separate from the rest of the US. Except for Alaska.
 

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manaman said:
Srkkl said:
God, here if people aren't black "gangstas" they're white rednecks who wonder why their car gets keyed when they wave around the Confederate battle flag. I'm a northerner stuck in a cornbread sucking, hushpuppy inhaling, shitty wannabe southern state. I hate it so much. What I'm trying to say is that there is some truth to the stereotype but with exceptions of course.
I lived in Georgia, and Texas, with long stays in (don't count it as living there if I stayed less then six months) Florida, Alabama, Virginia... You are getting the picture. Never once did I come across anything even remotely like what you are describing.

I think you might what to take another look at your world view, the problem might not be with everyone else so much as it is with you.
So because I apparently have some huge character flaw I'm going to lie about the people where I live?

1. From your frequent moving I'm guessing your military, and usually around military bases where almost everyone is from somwhere else the stereotypes seem to not be there. The only reason I'm seeing it here is because we didn't live in base housing this time around.

2. Of all the states you listed Alabama and Texas seem to be the worst and they still aren't as bad as where I'm living now.(I've been to all the places you listed too.)
 

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Srkkl said:
manaman said:
Srkkl said:
God, here if people aren't black "gangstas" they're white rednecks who wonder why their car gets keyed when they wave around the Confederate battle flag. I'm a northerner stuck in a cornbread sucking, hushpuppy inhaling, shitty wannabe southern state. I hate it so much. What I'm trying to say is that there is some truth to the stereotype but with exceptions of course.
I lived in Georgia, and Texas, with long stays in (don't count it as living there if I stayed less then six months) Florida, Alabama, Virginia... You are getting the picture. Never once did I come across anything even remotely like what you are describing.

I think you might what to take another look at your world view, the problem might not be with everyone else so much as it is with you.
So because I apparently have some huge character flaw I'm going to lie about the people where I live?

1. From your frequent moving I'm guessing your military, and usually around military bases where almost everyone is from somwhere else the stereotypes seem to not be there. The only reason I'm seeing it here is because we didn't live in base housing this time around.

2. Of all the states you listed Alabama and Texas seem to be the worst and they still aren't as bad as where I'm living now.(I've been to all the places you listed too.)
Good guess with the military. I was stationed in Ft. Gordon for a time, but I stayed in Atlanta for a bit as well. As for Texas, well my mother after separating from my father decided to move closer to her mother. Taking us to Texas where I lived for 7 years aside from the weather, and people being a bit ruder then I was used to it was just like anywhere else.

I don't even need to get into the other places. The point is you are both right and wrong.

Maybe you feel into some stereotypical southern town straight out of a bad TV show. Sure, maybe, you never really know anything for certain.

Think about it this way. You have to know the guy who constantly complains to anyone that will listen about what assholes all the other drivers are. What do you think about him? Most people would think he is over the top. Knowing from experience that the driving on the road is just not really like that. A logical extension of that is that the problem really isn't with the other drivers so much as it is with the attitude and the outlook of the person complaining.

Likely you didn't want to move, and as such view your surroundings in a much more negative way then it deserves. You want to take that as a character flaw by all means do so. I wouldn't, I just think you need to take a long hard look with fresh eyes. Focus on the things you enjoy there, and stop trying to hate it. You might just find that under the surface culture differences that it is a place just like any other place, filled with people just like other people.
 

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Kyp said:
Not once since the end of Reconstruction has there been a black man or woman elected to high state-wide office (Senator or Governor)in the South.
Lol do they teach you guys down there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Virginia#List_of_Governors
 

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HyenaThePirate said:
The problem is that the South, having little in the way of industry and having the worst economy in the country for the most part, are some of the geographically most poverty-stricken areas in the nation. And from my experience, poverty leads to racism or prejudice in some form, as the poor will find any number of bogeymen to blame their economic situations on. Poor whites hold grudges against blacks with whom they compete for jobs, benefits, etc. ... Until the South discovers a cure for its ailing economy and lack of economic opportunities/industry it will continue to have to endure the stereotypes of being a hotbed of racism, with good reason.
HyenaThePirate, most people these days don't know that the poverty and lack of industry in the South was deliberately created after the War Between the States, in several ways.

Despite the expenses of the war, all the Southern states reached the end of it with decent treasuries that the carpetbag governments looted, a lot of it for personal gain, and then spent the taxpayers of the states wildly into debt. For example, Georgia finished the war completely debtless, but after a mere six years of carpebagger rule, the state was 50 million dollars in debt; and the taxpayers had little hope of paying that off. All the Southern states were in similar situations; they had ended the war debt free, some with actual surpluses, and were deeply in debt after Reconstruction.

Another reason the economy was so terrible in the Southern states was, for example, northern speculators coming south and buying not just acres but MILES of virgin Southern forests for pennies an acre, and paying Southern men pennies to log the trees and mill the wood.

But one of the worst economic punishments aimed at the South was discriminatory freight rates. Southern textile manufacturers (the South still grew cotton, of course) were charged exhorbitant freight costs if they shipped finished goods outside the region. They could afford to pay the railroads charges to ship raw, heavy goods to the north, where the factories manufactured more lucrative finished goods -- and shipped them South and west very cheaply. The railroads were in such control that it was cheaper to ship raw bolts of cloth from Georgia to New England than it was to ship finished goods -- dresses, tents, towels, whatever -- from one town in Georgia to another town in Georgia.

This was not federal government policy or law. It was implemented by the railroads, but the feds allowed it. The discriminatory freight rates that kept southern industry mired in the lowest-tier of manufacturing were not ended until 1953. Nineteen fifty three! And people think Reconstruction ended in 1870.

Here's a great overview of that issue:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cescott/freight.html

This kind of draconian treatment of the South was the result of deliberate outside forces; it wasn't a lack of resources -- the South is unbelievably rich in natural resources. It wasn't the result of a "naturally lazy" or ignorant populace (read about the Confederate submarine the H.L. Hunley sometime).

The trouble between the races was manufactured basically at the same time and in the same way.