So gaming saved my life.

[Shoqiyqa]

SNIP

I find this hard to believe, but I would be willing to believe it (sort of, well, probably not) if you had a plausible reason for not being dead, I mean, what happened? Did he say "Shit, I'm impressed that you found cover and put a blanket over yourself, so impressed, I'm going to give up on killing you and walk away"

Also, it seems a little weird that he missed when you were asleep.

You'd be amazed how inaccurate our gang-related shootings tend to be over here. One victim got hit in the ankle while someone else entirely caught a bullet in the shoulder from spitting distance. I really doubt you'd be asleep after the first shot. As for cover and blanket, the best cover is behind the shooter and a blanket in frotn of you can be a blanket over the gun and the shooter's face, so it's kind of plausible. Giving him a quilt with which to wrestle while you manouevre isn't taught in the dojo but it's a sight more effective than screaming.

 

[Danpascooch]

SNIP

I find this hard to believe, but I would be willing to believe it (sort of, well, probably not) if you had a plausible reason for not being dead, I mean, what happened? Did he say "Shit, I'm impressed that you found cover and put a blanket over yourself, so impressed, I'm going to give up on killing you and walk away"

Also, it seems a little weird that he missed when you were asleep.

You'd be amazed how inaccurate our gang-related shootings tend to be over here. One victim got hit in the ankle while someone else entirely caught a bullet in the shoulder from spitting distance. I really doubt you'd be asleep after the first shot. As for cover and blanket, the best cover is behind the shooter and a blanket in frotn of you can be a blanket over the gun and the shooter's face, so it's kind of plausible. Giving him a quilt with which to wrestle while you manouevre isn't taught in the dojo but it's a sight more effective than screaming.

But again, I still don't get why he stopped trying to kill him, after all, going behind cover and getting under a blanket doesn't exactly scream "I'm going to FUCK YOU UP if you keep trying to shoot me"

 

[viranimus]

Geeze.

I can accept someone calling bullshit. But to call bullshit simply because you only read the original post and none of the response posts, or the post where the news report was temp linked up, and others have seen it and validated it? Come on.

Yes, It was an unbelievable series of events. But the unbelievable happens every day. In this case it just happened to someone who happened to appreciate the escapist forums. believe it if you want to, if you dont, then dont.

I am still steadfast in the belief that our gaming passion teaches us alot more than we believe. I mean thats why professors are having portal as required assignments, some schools are using games like total war as a manifestation to show in a 3d means reenactments to historical battles. to more inane things like how to barter with merchants, how to aim correctly, how to use english in pool (Thats another I learned from gaming) ect. So yes, we learn from our favorite passion.

 

[Drazeric]

Well i dont know if this counts but I was about to get into this big bar fight.So as im walking out i yelled at him, i was very drunk, youre a noob an im gunna tbag your sorry ass and started laughing. The guy looked at me and laughed then asked if i played shooters. I replied yes. He started laughing came over and we started talking about Halo3 MW2 and shit. Afterwards we went back inside and he bought me a few drinks. Then when i was about to go home he says its a good thing we didnt fight cuz he was apparently gunna stab me lmao. But we have been friends sense lol

 

[HeySeansOnline]

Well, In my situation It was self defense, he was coming at me, but that's off point. After the fact, I had some regret, but I never like violence as a solution ... after the fact. Granted I don't go around picking fights, but If I do see something that pisses me off, someone hurting a friend, or hopefully not for their sake a family member, then I might turn to violence.

Whether that's related to games ... I don't know. Games were always a stress relief for me. Not an outlet, sure as a kid I played M rated games, but they never made me violent.

My violence Is probably routed somewhere else, I got a lot of crap In school, now I'm In a different school with a lot of good friends, and I still game, and I've been seeing violence as the wrong thing. So I don't think Dante or Scorpion played a role In my violent tendencies, the stuff I play now Is much worse anyway, and my violence has been calming down regardless. So I have to say no. Anyway I'm still just as happy playing Okami as I am Destroy All Humans.

I've heard about unconscious reactions being trainable, that if you get people to target practice on pictures of people it'll increase the chances of them reflexively shooting someone if they have a gun and are in danger. I'd be very interested to see what would have happened if the OP had had a gun handy.

I'm not thinking that gaming caused violence but I'm interested if gaming can train you to use "seek weapon, fight back" in replacement to "run, run like the wind". If gaming can 'program' other behaviour I don't see any reason it couldn't and I'd be interested if the amount of games someone plays are related to their propensity to, say, shoot someone in a standoff instead of talking down.

EDIT: Maybe they haven't made someone who is more likely to get into violence, but maybe they make someone less hesitant to escalate it.

The gun scenario is interesting, I would actually ponder both options, talking If I was In a weak position, but the second I have a chance I would try to diffuse the situation, If with violence then so be It. I would probably only consider violence however If lives other than mine were In direct danger. I guess I would be thinking, In gaming terms If you will, the enemy still poses a threat, I have to take him down. Which is suprisingly to me what I would probably be thinking, and would jump on any chance to neutralise him, I would never want to kill though, I don't think I could live with that burden.

 

[superbatranger]

Oh, right..discussion. I have yet to use any skills from a video game in real life. No situation warranting the use of such skills has come up in my life, and I want to keep it that way. Most of the games I've been playing recently involve people dying. Case in point, I was mugged by a couple of guys a few months back. I did the smart thing and gave them my cash and mp3 player. Now, I could have defended myself and fought back, but it was 3 of them and only one of me. Also, I didn't know if they were armed(only one of them pulled a knife). I could have defended myself only to end up getting stabbed or shot. Basically, they could have had a knife or gun on them, and I wouldn't know before it was too late. I would have most likely ended up in the hospital, or worst-case scenario..in a coffin. Dead. Hell, in the time it would have taken me to come up with a way to defend myself, one of them could have stabbed me, potentially killing me. I gave them my things because I knew they weren't worth the risk. A while back this kid was walking home from the bus stop. He was mugged. They said he gave the mugger his phone and wallet. Know what the mugger did after he got what he came for? He shot the kid in the head. This happened in front of his house. Sometimes, being a hero gets you killed. You have to think about your life first, you have to think about the potential risk you could be taking.

COOL STORY BRAH.

By the way, you sort of just a tiny bit contradicted yourself. So, the kid hands over his belongings, he gets killed anyway, and somehow he's sort of hero even though you did the same thing and say in the next sentence that material goods don't matter?

Sense does not make.

Shit, I should have separated those two sentences. They weren't exactly related with each other. I didn't really think it through when I put it up.

Oh, right..discussion. I have yet to use any skills from a video game in real life. No situation warranting the use of such skills has come up in my life, and I want to keep it that way. Most of the games I've been playing recently involve people dying. Case in point, I was mugged by a couple of guys a few months back. I did the smart thing and gave them my cash and mp3 player. Now, I could have defended myself and fought back, but it was 3 of them and only one of me. Also, I didn't know if they were armed(only one of them pulled a knife). I could have defended myself only to end up getting stabbed or shot. Basically, they could have had a knife or gun on them, and I wouldn't know before it was too late. I would have most likely ended up in the hospital, or worst-case scenario..in a coffin. Dead. Hell, in the time it would have taken me to come up with a way to defend myself, one of them could have stabbed me, potentially killing me. I gave them my things because I knew they weren't worth the risk. A while back this kid was walking home from the bus stop. He was mugged. They said he gave the mugger his phone and wallet. Know what the mugger did after he got what he came for? He shot the kid in the head. This happened in front of his house. Sometimes, being a hero gets you killed. You have to think about your life first, you have to think about the potential risk you could be taking.

Just you just refute your own point there, guy? What your post boils down to is actually more indicative that your chances of surviving a mugging are only slightly increased by giving up your things. Also, you can't call bullshit on OP's story and then post another story with no source.

Hmm, I see your point. I guess this was the only situation I could think of where I could have used some skill from a game to protect me, but it probably would have ended badly. I can also see why you probably wouldn't believe what I said, and that's OK. I certainly didn't post it expecting everyone to believe it. But, I didn't necessarily call bullshit on OP's story. If I had, I would have said it. I only said I had my doubts, and that I found his story kinda hard to believe. Although, it could have happened. But, I can't be entirely sure of that, because the only thing pointing to that is the fact that OP told us. But, you're right. Perhaps it was wrong of me to have posted my story after saying I had my doubts about OP's story. It's true, my story doesn't readily have any sources except for me, just like OP doesn't have any sources except for himself, unless he has sources he hasn't mentioned yet.

But, if I did come off as being an ass or what have you, I apologize completely. It wasn't my intention to do so at all.

 

[Vhite]

English, fair enough.

 

[HeySeansOnline]

The gun scenario is interesting, I would actually ponder both options, talking If I was In a weak position, but the second I have a chance I would try to diffuse the situation, If with violence then so be It. I would probably only consider violence however If lives other than mine were In direct danger. I guess I would be thinking, In gaming terms If you will, the enemy still poses a threat, I have to take him down. Which is suprisingly to me what I would probably be thinking, and would jump on any chance to neutralise him, I would never want to kill though, I don't think I could live with that burden.

No you wouldn't. Ponder it that is, you wouldn't ponder it, if you were shocked your instinctive behaviour would kick in and you'd do something. Thing is that apparently thatsomething is alterable, someone who would have frozen up could be trained to replace that instinct with dropping the weapon or even shooting. If you'd played a lot of FPS games then you'd probably have shot the guy before you'd even known there was another option. Basically there were a few articles that said that kneejerk reaction was changeable by repeated training and association.

That's what I'm worried about, that if gaming really can change ingrained behaviour it really could make someone more prone to using a violent solution if one is applicable.

EDIT: There was an article on here on this theory actually! http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_153/4960-The-Anatomy-of-Violence

Huh ... guess you're right, I've never been a life or death situation before, this Is all based on thought. I guess the only way to know would be to be In a situation like that. This Is gonna be something for my to think about now. Thank, you've helped me gain a little insight into myself.

By the way, thanks for the article, I'll have to give It a read.

 

[TerribleAssassin]

He missed when you were asleep? And is that person in jail now? And did he just leave after he shot at you four times? I must know more of this...

And use your touch screen to unsolve the mystery?



OT: Paintballing. Better aim, better reflexs.


And I look at things on how they would tactically help me.

 

[Rutskarn]

OP lies, probably. Unless he can provide proof that the events actually happened and prove that they happened to him.

Anyway, even if he isn't lieing, since when has hiding from guns been a skill you learn specifically from gaming?

Somebody from the last page found a police report that confirmed it. The details that lead to the finding of said report were removed, though.

Still more likely that the OP saw that article and then decided to Hijack it.

Why is that in any way more likely?

 

[hyperhammy]

What did you do to the guy?! Why would he want to kill you?

 

[viranimus]

What did you do to the guy?! Why would he want to kill you?

I guess from his point of view I was standing in the way of his young love, him being 21 and my step daughter being 16. The way I was standing in his way was... I forbid him to enter my house. I didnt stop them from dating, because its not my call, shes not my biological daughter. I just didnt want him in the house to put up a realistic boundry there.

That and likely the fact that he was religious and I used his religious context against him in an argument, so he thought he was sanctified and doing the lords work by killing a blasphemer.

Who knows. Honestly the guy thought it was a good idea to come in and shoot somebody in their sleep.. how do you understand the thoughts going through a head like that?

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Pokemon taught me to enjoy cock fighting, bear baiting and Japanese Bug Fights. [http://www.japanesebugfights.com/]

Well, not so much the first two, but it is tempting throw balls at animals.

 

[PxDn Ninja]

My years of playing driving games saved my life on the highway with my mother one day when a semi nearly hit me headon because it lost control on and crossed into oncoming traffic with a ditch on each side of the road. Instead of panicing, I saw how his trailer was sliding and cut over into his lane and slide past. I also knew a shoulder was coming up and used it to get out of the way of oncoming traffic that was behind semi. My mom was terrified and just knew we were about to die, but I never flinched and just handled it off instinct.

The semi lost control about 3 carlengths in front of me, so it was just seconds of reaction time.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

I would put that down do general survival instinct rather than anything gaming has taught you. Anyway, hope the guy goes down and you sleep safe in future.

As for me, playing computer games has taught me nothing.

EDIT: Actually, no, I lie...I was driving very fast down a small country road and came to a turning over a bridge, I was going way to fast and started to slide, but thanks to playing Gran Tourismo I let the back end flick out and then powered through to complete a fairly gnarly sliding turn thingumy (front wheel drive car obviously)and zoomed over the bridge instead of crashing into it.

 

[Black-6]

Wow, you deserve something, a medal, or a badge, or at the least a real life achievement, seriously that's great, I might've paniced.

As for me I was fighting with a friend, well he was really a douche bag, and the fight went into an alley, he came after me, so looking around I grabbed a big shingle and used It to deliver a slash across his nose, now he had height and age on me, so basically the gamer instincts kicked In to help me find a weapon. That's about It though.

Games have taught me to never be unarmed in a dangerous situation. Rule# 1 of unarmed combat: NEVER BE UNARMED! To that effect I always carry some kind of (mostly legal) weapon on my person. As well as having a loaded Beretta 90two next to my bed.

Now I want you to think very carefully before answering, but have games made you violent?

I do not believe so. I have a neighbor that gets weekly visits from the police, a prison that has a problem controlling inmates (an escapee was recaptured 1 block outside my neighborhood) and a consistent problem with muggings and vandals in the area. Some may say its paranoia. I call it being prepared.

 

[Darkgoosey666]

Hes obviously quite the Escapist isnt he?


see what i did there?