So, Heroes has abandoned plot eh?

[Mr_Czar]

Well, I guess its official. Heroes has decided to do away with all that pesky continuity and character development. We really should have seen this coming.

I'm assuming everyone is aware of the TV show to which I refer. Has anyone been watching the third season? What are your opinions? Was Tim Kring right to fire Jeph Loeb, considering what a cluster-fuck this season is ? Do you LIKE this season? ( An answer of yes would clearly lead onto my follow up question of "No. Fuck you." )

I could quite easily fill this board with a rant about this season, but I shall hold off to see if anyone shares my vitriol.

 

[jim_doki]

mr Czar, i would like to let you know that you are completly insane

the latest series of Heroes is spectactular. It has, after the dodginess of season 2, completely restored my faith in the series (admittedly, i am one episode behind, the last thing i saw was Sylar through Noah's scope

I don't quite understand what you are saying about the lack of character development. Sylar, Elle, Matt, Flint, Claire, Mohinder, Nathan and Angela Patrelli have all been fleshed out. Im actually starting to give a crap about Angela now. I like the Speedster too. The Patrelli brothers are finally taking each other down and Claire and Noah have developed their relationship as well.

I totally disagree with you is what i'm trying to say

 

[Lord Krunk]

Is there any room for discussion?

Anyway; I don't watch Heroes, so I will leave.

 

[CoziestPigeon]

This season is good, not as good as number 1, but way better than 2. It's still my favorite show.

 

[Mr_Czar]

Dear god man.

Well, you may change your tune after the next episode. Its not that I am not enjoying it, I am enjoying watching this train wreck. There are some quite cool parts to it. But really, it seems like the writers of each episode have only the vaguest ideas of what happened on the previous one.

Spoiler: Big Spoilers Here

Sylar's character, I guess they're trying to paint him as morally grey, except he ends up swinging between good and bad which just makes him look indecisive and easily led. I realise he had mother issues, but I thought his POWER was to understand how things work. Intuitively. Thow in this whole Hunger business and the dreadful retcon of his past. He really should have been killed at the end of season 1.

Elle has similarly had her past retconned to hell. As well as her character... in Villains she was a happy-go-lucky young sprog who couldn't imagine hurting Sylar. Then, just a few months later she gladly murders people. Are we meant to understand that her making Sylar a monster did this? I guess we could fan-wank that, show, but how about throwing us a small sliver of a hint that that is what you intended. The whole Elle-Sylar relationship seems pasted together at the last minute.

Parkman and Daphne..I love Greg Grunberg..but I'm so-so over Parkman. I think the relationship there developed way WAY too quickly. I feel no chemistry between these too. For all the bizarreness of Sylar-Elle at least they have some spark.

Flint could have been interesting..but it confuses me why he is even developed at all. Knox is the one in all the futures..and yet we see nothing of him?

Claire is repeating her season 1 storyline. Again.
Mohinder continues to be the stupidest scientist to ever grace the earth. He's thankfully Maya free this time.

Nathan, he finally has a storyline that seems to be going somewhere. Though after the latest episode you may agree that the way it gets there is a little clunky.

Angela : Can't say anything bad about her. She is one of the best characters on the show hands down.


Anywho, it seems that the season has been cobbled together. The continuity between episodes and sometimes WITHIN episodes is all over the place. The characters act wildly out of character and then revert back to their old selves. Kudos to you for enjoying it, you're seeing something I'm not. To be honest I was managing to not be angry until the Eclipse episodes but they were the pointless straw that broke the bloated camel's back.

 

[jim_doki]

see, i've been waiting for the eclipse for like three seasons. I'm glad they finally went through and explained its siginificance. as for the Elle thing, I find it best just to ignore most of the events in season 2. it's what the showthat does. also, i am very, VERY sick of the girl who can't die being the helpless mcguffan all the time.

 

[MONTGOMERYWOODRUFF69]

To tell the truth I'm kinda lost as to what the hell is going on myself.

 

[Akas]

Bleh, have you SEEN season two? No matter how bad you might think season 3 was, season two was damn near unwatchable. Season three at least tries to be meaningful: season two felt like complete filler.

That being said, I REALLY wish that Kring hadn't fallen into the mainstream comic trap: there's WAY too many characters, and he should have let some die. Parkman is lame, Claire's dad is one-dimensional and annoying, DEATH TO FLINT (seriously, you kill a villain like Magneto and replace him with a Southern Pyro? -_-), Maya feels like an extra (she's basically "done" in the season anyways, was there any reason she needed to be in season 3?), Daphne (off-shoot of Parkman), Tracy (no introduction needed), etc.

They should seriously have stuck with three groups:
The two brothers/sides: as the main war (Nathan/Peter, Angela/Arthur, etc.)
The troubled group: individuals that could fall either way, "tools" in a certain regard (Sylar, Claire, Mohinder, etc.)
The "sidekick" group: individuals as a plot device/to move the story/for comedy (mainly just Hiro/Ando, but also "the Haitian")

 

[jim_doki]

you will not refer to the Great Hiro Nakamura as a side kick

Hiro is one of my favorites, if only because he fully embraces what he can do. He's been directly responsible for saving the world twice now