Since that part of the sentence was in parentheses, the end parenthesis immediately after the address got counted as part of the address. Edit the post and delete that parenthesis from the source part of the hyperlink text.Bilious Green said:Hmm, not sure why that link didn't work.
Your link works, it just has two unnecessary characters at the end, namely ). Fixed.Bilious Green said:Hmm, not sure why that link didn't work. If you google "the Technomancer female character", the article pops up as the first result and the link works from there. Weird.Phasmal said:That link you put in is a dead one.Bilious Green said:The issue of character gender choice came up recently in relation to the upcoming game The Technomancer; apparently although it's an RPG, you can only play as a male, and the devs said that due to the tremendous cost of hiring voice actors, they couldn't afford to do male and female VO recording, so the PC is male only [link]http://segmentnext.com/2015/08/25/the-technomancer-interview-with-spiders-ceo-combat-customization-and-more/[/link] While the cost factor is probably not so much of a deal breaker for big studios with AAA budgets, it's a limiting factor for smaller studios.
There is also still the perception (real or imagined) that having a female protagonist will result in lost sales. I think games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate's approach of dual protagonists is a good way of bridging this divide, assuming the game's budget can take the added expense of more voice actors.
I'm aware that some smaller studios may have trouble with that sort of thing, and while I'd question it a little, fine. I'm not hounding anyone about it.
I'm well aware of the long long list of reasons and excuses, some of which I'm like "Okay, fine" and others make me raise an eyebrow a little. I've been playing games for over 20 years, and wanting more ladies this whole time. I'm up to date with all the arguments against.
As for the excuses, I'm certainly not defending their validity or lack thereof, just making an observation about what has been said.
The link doesn't work because the parentheses on the right of the link is too close. Because of that it is deemed part of the link, along with the period, and messes it up.Bilious Green said:Hmm, not sure why that link didn't work. If you google "the Technomancer female character", the article pops up as the first result and the link works from there. Weird.
As for the excuses, I'm certainly not defending their validity or lack thereof, just making an observation about what has been said.
Just started a new game of DA:I with a Two-handed Elf Warrior soon to be Reaver.Phasmal said:That's kind of why my warrior-tank was a female undead. I liked the idea of this tiny little barely held-together bag of bones holding off waves of monsters.![]()
Man, that chart just irritates me. I recognize some of those arguments from various online articles from companies too. I remember the Remember Me guys saying how hard it was for them to get the publisher to sign off on a female led because "The market's not ready for it / no one likes playing a girl" and axed a potential romance scene because "It'd make the player feel gay". Gah.Phasmal said:*snippety*
But that's your experience. Women and men are different, otherwise transgender people must be wasting their time and energy, fretting over nothing at all. And frankly, in a tabletop situation, I don't believe that I can act convincingly like a woman in certain scenarios, and suspect that I would come off as foolish if I tried. I mean I could just role up a fighter who happens to be a woman, and just not speak or interact beyond dropping dice and attacking enemies, but there's no role play in that.aegix drakan said:What cheeses me on a personal level though, is "I don't understand how girls think". It's not that freakin' hard to make a good female character. If a 28 year old dude making hobby games in RPGmaker (coughMecough) can do a decent job of making female characters, you'd think a AAA writer would be able to.
Seriously, Imma just expose my big secret here. Just write them like people. Outside of motherhood, and a few here-and-there social cases (oh, and menstruation, but that's not really something essential to cover in games), women and men aren't all that different. Most of the time for me, it's just another character trait that I decide based on "what gender is more interesting here?" or "Do I have a cooler male sprite or female sprite for this character type?"
So far, it's served me pretty well. I don't know why people keep claiming it's hard to do.
Yeah, I'll admit I used to make that excuse myself, but like, nowadays I just think, "who cares?"DementedSheep said:Que a bunch comments about how they play play female characters so they can perv on their ass.
Dude.JohnnyDelRay said:On second playthroughs, or when I want to make a big tanky damage-absorbing character, I'll use a male. Females just seem more interesting in the roles that I use them usually - long range sniper, sneaky assassin, mage, hi-dex ranger.
I'll definitely agree that Tabletops and LARPs are much much harder to gender-swap convincingly. I doubt I'd be able to pull it off under most circumstances. I can do it decently in video games, as the rules and interactions are all streamlined right into the game, but with full RP freedom, I think it would be a lot trickier to do well.the December King said:But that's your experience. Women and men are different, otherwise transgender people must be wasting their time and energy, fretting over nothing at all. And frankly, in a tabletop situation, I don't believe that I can act convincingly like a woman in certain scenarios, and suspect that I would come off as foolish if I tried. I mean I could just role up a fighter who happens to be a woman, and just not speak or interact beyond dropping dice and attacking enemies, but there's no role play in that.
Crap, you know, I regret commenting. I keep coming to this thread, thinking the emphasis is on role playing. Games are totally a different bag. Good chatting with you, though!aegix drakan said:I'll definitely agree that Tabletops and LARPs are much much harder to gender-swap convincingly. I doubt I'd be able to pull it off under most circumstances. I can do it decently in video games, as the rules and interactions are all streamlined right into the game, but with full RP freedom, I think it would be a lot trickier to do well.
I was mostly talking about creating female characters for video games which is what that chart Phasmal posted was about. Role playing a woman is a lot harder than just writing a woman, I find. Still, this IS just my own personal experience.
Ahahahaha, such is the wonders of the internet. XDthe December King said:Crap, you know, I regret commenting. I keep coming to this thread, thinking the emphasis is on role playing. Games are totally a different bag. Good chatting with you, though!
Wait wait wait that link.Bilious Green said:The Technomancer; http://segmentnext.com/2015/08/25/the-technomancer-interview-with-spiders-ceo-combat-customization-and-more
Write an essay on the topic man, I'm sure it would be fantastic.DementedSheep said:This whole thread isn't "constructive". Might as well ask if guys like porn. I don't see how you could possibly think playing wank bait makes you weird or special with how often this sentiment pops upsomeguy1231 said:Pretty much the same for me. I'll almost always roll female in games with a third-person view and if I can make them sexy. TERA and WoW are two good examples.
*sigh*DementedSheep said:Que a bunch comments about how they play play female characters so they can perv on their ass.
First of all, several posts already effectively said this before you made your comment, so your comment is a bit "late to the party", so to speak. Second of all, who cares if that's why people play female characters? Are there "right" or "wrong" reasons for people to play what they play?
Your comment comes off as arrogant and unconstructive, and adds absolutely nothing to this discussion.
Oh, by the way, the word you want is "cue", not "que". That's Spanish for "what".![]()