So how would you have made Dantes Inferno then?

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Nomanslander

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Aby_Z said:
You seem far too much like a troll for my liking. Please reread through what you've said, consider it for a good long while and then come back to me. As of now, you have no ground to stand on and your points are incredibly hollow. Good day.
Well neither do you...0o

How about you take your own advice because you don't exactly make a lick of sense to me.

And calling me a troll is a pretty low blow.

I'm willing to accept theirs a difference of opinions, but I'm guessing you just like to think your right and everyone else is wrong.
 

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ramik81 said:
Aby_Z said:
You seem far too much like a troll for my liking. Please reread through what you've said, consider it for a good long while and then come back to me. As of now, you have no ground to stand on and your points are incredibly hollow. Good day.
Well neither do you...0o

How about you take your own advice because you don't exactly make a lick of sense to me.

And calling me a troll is a pretty low blow.
I'm saying you appear to be a troll. Lets recap.

Your original idea is that you can't bastardize a subject, in this case Dante's Inferno, if it's been around for several hundred years and is likely to still exist in another several hundred years. That is a completely and amazingly false thought that has no substance. I really don't know why you brought it up.

Next you said that it hasn't changed at all and instead of listing an example or two on how it hasn't changed at all, you state that because a University professor won't ask his students to research the game over the original poem and again reiterate your 'point' that because it will continue to exist in the future, a video game adaptation can't be a bastardization of the original story.

I recapped that for you because you don't seem to be taking my advice on rereading what you've said, so I spelled it out for you instead. You seem to believe that time has anything to do with a change in story in another substance. You're simply completely missing the point.

This is the videogame adaptation of a very old Poem about a passive tour through the 9 rings of hell, purgatory, and the rings of Heaven which formed the basis of the Christian believe of the afterlife. The videogame itself is not a passive tour through the 9 rings of hell as part 1 of the trilogy of a tour through the afterlife. The game is Dante killing Death itself, stealing his scythe, and returning home after a crusade to find his Wife killed for no apparent reason, so he decides to go to Hell to get her back. It may just be me, but I think those are two very different subject matter.
 

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Aby_Z said:
This is the videogame adaptation of a very old Poem about a passive tour through the 9 rings of hell, purgatory, and the rings of Heaven which formed the basis of the Christian believe of the afterlife. The videogame itself is not a passive tour through the 9 rings of hell as part 1 of the trilogy of a tour through the afterlife. The game is Dante killing Death itself, stealing his scythe, and returning home after a crusade to find his Wife killed for no apparent reason, so he decides to go to Hell to get her back. It may just be me, but I think those are two very different subject matter.
Yes, they are two different things, in this world everything revolves around credibility, and the game has none in any circle that considers Dante Inferno to be a great literary work.

So there for it doesn't matter, it has no relative importance, if you're referring to the game as the bastard child of the source material you're correct.

But that is not the definition of bastardizing:

1 : to reduce from a higher to a lower state or condition : debase
2 : to declare or prove to be a bastard
3 : to modify especially by introducing discordant or disparate elements


Bastardizing refers to having an effect to the source material, as if this game that has no relevance other than the name and other similarities can have any effect. Now that is a completely and amazingly false thought that has no substance.
 

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ramik81 said:
Aby_Z said:
This is the videogame adaptation of a very old Poem about a passive tour through the 9 rings of hell, purgatory, and the rings of Heaven which formed the basis of the Christian believe of the afterlife. The videogame itself is not a passive tour through the 9 rings of hell as part 1 of the trilogy of a tour through the afterlife. The game is Dante killing Death itself, stealing his scythe, and returning home after a crusade to find his Wife killed for no apparent reason, so he decides to go to Hell to get her back. It may just be me, but I think those are two very different subject matter.
Yes, they are two different things, in this world everything revolves around credibility, and the game has none in any circle that considers Dante Inferno to be a great literary work.

So there for it doesn't matter, it has no relative importance, if you're referring to the game as the bastard child of the source material you're correct.

But that is not the definition of bastardizing:

1 : to reduce from a higher to a lower state or condition : debase
2 : to declare or prove to be a bastard
3 : to modify especially by introducing discordant or disparate elements.

Bastardizing refers to having an effect on the source material, as if this game that has no relevance other than the name and other similarities can have any effect. Now that is a completely and amazingly false thought that has no substance.
Ok, now you're just insulting me. the third definition applies to my use of the word. Even more so, you hope to avert this fact by editing your post afterwards. I'm done responding to your posts whether you're a troll or not.
 

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Honestly I liked the idea of giving Dante's Inferno an action game twist BUT

It was done so immaturely that it just shouldn't have been done at all. Dante's design is absolutely ridiculous. How are we supposed to take someone seriously who has gone through all the trouble of SEWING A GIANT RED CROSS TO HIS CHEST? And if he killed Death, how does he get to Hell in the first place? The whole love story is extremely juvenile and poorly told. Nothing in the game really takes any part of the Divine Comedy with any seriousness. The only good I will say about the game is that the representations of the circles of hell are breathtaking. But if you're going to use a subject matter as scholarly and well known as this, it should be treated with more respect than a Jet Li movie. Even Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings don't get screwed up this badly!
 

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Seeing as I never played GoW, I think the game is fine. And I don't really think it has anything to do with greek mythology, dual bladed bashing or an insane bald dude. On another note, the game is a nice attributation to Dante's original Infierno. I don't really see how you can modify the circles of hell for gameplay or make Dante a fighter other than the way the creators of this game did.

The only thing I would have changed with the game is the Cleopatra boss. I would have stuck with the origial giant sex-organ-monster-tentacle boss.

It's also apparent that this game is only the first in a series. I'm interested how, or if, they will incoporate Purgatorio and Paridisio into future titles.
 

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Thus far, I've played Dante's Inferno twice, and having read the poem before hand I quite enjoyed both poem and game. I would leave it the way it is. Like many posters have said before me, and I will paraphrase, there are very, very few games out there with an original concept. When you talk about a game genre, you can in some way or another relate it to another game e.g. Dante's Inferno and GoW, Warcraft III and Age of Empires etc.

Because a game or film doesnt follow their respective book's storyline, doesn't mean that it makes it "crap". Have an open mind, and think of it as a different representation of the story. Almost like saying "What if this happened?"

And Cerrax, if you know any of the background to Dante Alighieri, Beatrice was an actual person whom he was romantically interested in despite his married status. He held this woman in high esteem, so imo it seems only right to have a romantic undertone, it does in an odd way fit in with the original plot.
 

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Have a grander sense of scale. The first few zones do this well. Then it loses the sense of scale, and its a crushing blow. Have it so Dante disappears into amazing scenery, be able to see the enormous bosses long before you face them.
 

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I've not played the game, but having read Inferno I don't see what the big deal is about "bastardizing the original source material." How many of you read Inferno and thought that it was a timeless masterpiece of epic brilliance, and that you could never imagine a better version of this story (or anything similar)?

Personally, I thought Inferno was "meh." I like the premise behind it, and it has a lot of interesting ideas, but the actual content comes off as bland. As Dante goes through each of the nine circles, I sit and wonder "where's the plot, where's the pacing? Are we just going through each of these places to have a look-see and not really do anything of significance?" As it stands, I feel like it would've been more effective as a diagram instead of a piece of literature. Really, I'd just prefer to read Richard Matheson's What Dreams May Come.

So if the game isn't that brilliant and has a bunch of weird and pointless stuff in it, is it really bastardizing the original poem? I'll say as much that it would have been a better idea to design the game as a loose adaptation based on the concepts of Inferno, and especially to have named it anything else. But so long as the game (even in its current state) is enjoyable to play and has interesting things going on, then it's probably already a step above the actual poem, in my book.

Point is, I read Inferno and didn't feel any sense of novelty or attachment to it, so I have absolutely no reason to be indignant about this "blasphemous" adaptation, and I'm kind of surprised that so many people are.