So I ask you, Escapists.... What is the Truth?
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Conformity is subjective, but the truth is not. We refer to certain well established things as the truth, because it is unreasonable to spend every second of our lives acknowledging the possibility of even the most obvious, well established knowledge being potentially false. Sure, we could mention the conundrum of the solipsist, and point out how we can't be sure that matter even exists when we talk about Chemistry, but we don't because we have more important shit to do. It's very hard to define words like Truth in a dictionary: The fact that both of those definitions you bolded use the word truth to define truth shows just how impossible it really is to just give it a definition that doesn't rely on circular logic. We can refer to something as the truth when it probably is, and we can TREAT it like its subjective, even though it's not, because the time you save it worth a lot more then the minuscule chance that we are wrong. But once you get all philosophical, you have to acknowledge that our quest for truth is, in reality, an attempt to align our perceptions with an objective, concrete truth which does exist.Barakiel said:
::Edit:: To clarify, when it says conformity, it is not talking about acceptance of people: It is saying that something is true when it conforms to, well, truth. In that example, it says nothing about subjectivity.
Since when was Global Warming pronounced 'utterly correct'? Isn't it still a theory? As in, theres that other theory that states the earth just warms up and cools down as part of its cyclical nature.Barakiel said:
As for the topic at hand, the truth is formed around subjective opinion, as well as evidence and proof. Thats...pretty much the best way I can put it, its a very hard concept to define.
Nothing is true, everything is wrong. 1 + 1 doesnt = 2 but instead equals 1.8.
Its at times like these I begin to question everything exsistence, is history real or just made up, is up really up, can you be high while lying down, If a polar bear farts, does the wind change direction. Who knows.
Its at times like these I begin to question everything exsistence, is history real or just made up, is up really up, can you be high while lying down, If a polar bear farts, does the wind change direction. Who knows.
This definition covers subjective applications of the word 'Truth' - just compare 3 with 6 - verified fact compared to 'accepted' fact. Everyone once thought that the world was flat, that was the accepted 'truth'. But it was wrong.Barakiel said:
There's three ways then to treat 'truth'. It's either the proven-without-doubt state/constant/fact of a matter - though, of course, that may not be the whole truth - or it may be, according to that definition (which rubs me the wrong way) an opinion, subjective and conforming with either mass opinion or evidence by way of validation.
Of course, there's always the 'telling the truth' angle, where you relay facts you believe to be true as such, though the source of that information may not be verified, the circumstances or completeness of information suspect and potentially out of date etc etc - as in, the truth as you know it, within limitations.
Personally, I don't think anything becomes 'true' just because enough people say it is, but dictionary.com disagrees with me.
One thing i have learnt in life is that when you leave you country of birth, absolutly everything changes your perspective. i went east, and those from there are taught to look inside oneself unlike us in the west who always look outside ourselves i.e. our mind etc. The truth,... Truth is inside everyone but hell we can't sush our mouths, mind for just one sec, let alone a minute. There is know truth but an illusion, it's ....The truth will set you free, when you sleep at night, when you bruch yr teeth, when yr laugh at the void, it's all freaky if you ask me. Exsistance is realizing ya need to crap.
The Bible, according to how many peps, written by who cares but discovered by discovery peps. That my dear friend is the Bible.
