So I just got jumped last night...

[Soggydog]

I have two stories relating to this incident. The first I was in Ann Arbor Michigan of all places, and a very large man with a bat tried to take my bike. While I was riding it. Thankfully he was large due to the amount of mcdonalds he likely consumes on a daily basis and couldnt catch me. The second time I was in one of the sketchier parts of Denver after dark. Two very large men came up to me on either side and very aggressively started yelling "Hey man you got some weed!?!?". Thankfully anticipating that I might end up in one of the more violent parts of the city I brought a very large K-bar combat knife with me. I told them "no" and flashed the handle of the knife at them. They left me alone.

 

[Mechanix]

I'm not saying you're lying, but escaping muggers by jumping off a bridge and onto a moving train is a big unrealistic...

 

[David Out]

Oh man, I have plenty of mugging victim experience. I've been mugged twice and avoid one potential mugging.

About 4 years ago, I was on the subway listening to my ipod. School just got out, so it was packed. I rushed out of the subway car to catch my next train and 10 guys (seriously) followed me and started beating on me before I could even get all the way up the stairs. Thankfully, my book bag protected me from most of the stomps and plus there was 10 of them, so they all couldn't get to me on that narrow staircase. In the end, they only took my headphones, cuz I managed to keep my hands on my ipod.

The attempted mugging was like 2 years ago, two kids who were like 13 (i was 18 at the time) followed me out of a corner store and slapped me, demanding "my shit". I was more surprised and confused than scared. I just walked away for this one, plus my friend's house was like half a block away.

Last mugging was last October. Me and my gf were eatting in her car outside of a fastfood place at like 11pm. We stupidly left the car unlocked and some guy in his 30s or 40s jumped into the back seat with a gun. It look like some type of magnum, but the barrel looked really weird so it might have been fake. Didn't really want to risk it, so we managed to convince him that we didn't have cell phones and he took like $20 and my gf's ring.

Basically, the world is filled with assholes. Even young ones.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Since you're an honest person, I shall assume that you took some pretty hardcore martial arts or something incredible since you overpowered those types of guys.

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<spoiler=I beleive this covers my credentials to whoop some major ass XD>

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I should preference it. i really should. i'm third generation military family. my grandfather was a ranger in WW2, two of his brothers were navy, and one was Marine (he had a third in the navy, but that one was killed). my grandfather had six kids, five boys, one girl (my mom). Each one of the boys was in the military as well. Two were navy, one airforce, one army, and one was national guard before signing to the marines. each one has seen I'm not the biggest kid, so tehy pretty much passed anything and everything they could along so I would be able to get out of any situation. I have more training then the average person, and I'll admit it, its not a fair fight even with more numbers against me.

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[Finbark]

Minneapolis I'm assuming. I personally live in a suburb of Mpls, but several of my friends live there and tell me of the shit that goes down near them.

 

[Christopher Callahan]

20 feet... About 6 meters, right? So, you'd be hitting that train at about... 30 km/h. Ought to break a leg, hitting hard surface you can't even roll on to lessen the impact force.

Twenty feet is definitely doable. I have done it in the past as a teenager. Perhaps I should throw out This Link . Some random drunk dude falling 50 feet, compared to a sober guy jumping 20. Which seems safer?

Sorry, but I simply don't believe that you are judging this right, as do a lot of other people. Cool story as it may be, I can't really believe you fell 5 metres, let alone 6.

Alright, I don't really care. Not trying to be a dick, but this was in a familiar location. I know the bridge height, and I'm not trying to brag. While 20 feet is a decent drop, it's not life threatening. Either you're misinformed, or you're calling me a liar. Either way, you're disrespectful. I wouldn't be an ass to you if you got mugged, why the hell are you doing it to me? Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?

1: You obviously care, that's why you responded and feel offended at what I said
2: Saying 'I'm not trying to be a dick' and then saying what you said is like me saying, 'I'm trying not to be violent', and then punching a guy in the face.
3: I just think either you're lying, or your judgement is off, I previously thought the latter, but you sound too defensive, which is a characteristic typical of somebody not being honest
4: And it's not disrespectful to give incorrect information to the escapist community and expect us to believe it? (hypocritical much?)
5: Don't act like you know me, I could have been mugged, you just don't know
6: I lol'd at the sympathy card, "Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?", seriously?
Your misguided offense at my only confirms that you yourself are regretting saying that it was a 20 foot drop, but you don't want to change it now because too many people have seen this thread, yep, you're in a sticky situation alright.

1. I don't care what you think. True fact. I care more about my image. It has nothing to do with someone being an asshole to me. Sorry.

2. I was trying to confront you in a friendly manner. Just because you feel offended at the fact that we have conflicting opinions doesn't make me a dick, sorry if you think so.

3. Have you ever been mugged? Raped? Assaulted? If someone doubted your integrity on such a serious matter, you're going to be offended. People saying you're something you're not is something to get defense about, sorry if you don't understand. I'd like to insult you here, but that only damages me. Unless you jest about serious crimes, I think you should back off on this one. Although, if you have no experience with something as serious as this, you have no validity in the first place.

4. Worst statement ever. You straight up are assuming I'm lying, which is beyond offensive and disrespectful. You're seriously insulting someone who was just a victim of a serious crime. Nice one, bud.

5. No way. No fucking way. If you were ever mugged, you would be beyond sympathetic. You seriously have no idea what you're saying, and I seriously suggest you reconsider this post. Attacking someone that was just a crime of a felony is a very poor social choice. I'm not pissed at you because I'm defensive, I'm pissed because you're beyond offending to me.

6. I don't fucking care what you classify me. I am a crime victim, and you're the jerk that's picking on me. I showed you respect, and you attacked me. It doesn't matter if you don't believe me, f' off man. You're not only offending me, but everyone else who has had this happen to them. I don't care how ego strong you are, find something better to do than attack people. You probably don't realize this, but you're seriously upsetting people. I'm not trying to start up some kind of bizarre flame war, I just don't want negativity on the thread I made.

1: You care, otherwise you wouldn't respond, this further enforces the proposition that you are not being honest
2: If that's really what you think, then I don't have anything to say to that.
3: You don't know me, as much as you like to think I'm immune to being the victim of crime,
that isn't the case, and I'm sorry I doubted your integrity on you jumping 20 feet and not injuring yourself seriously, (just keep telling yourself that OP)
4: You continue to be hypocritical and to be dishonest to all of the people here, and fun fact: If a horrible person becomes a victim of a crime, that doesn't necessarily stop them from being horrible people who should be called out when they make mistakes, bud
(also I never said I assumed you were lying, but it now seems obvious.
5: Here's another fun fact: If somebody gets mugged, then they hear a story about a guy who jumped off a bridge, fell 20 feet and landed on a train, they don't suddenly ignore the physical unlikelihood, I'll show sympathy when you learn to be honest with us, and perhaps with yourself
6: "I don't fucking care what you classify me." We both know that's not true.
" I am a crime victim, and you're the jerk that's picking on me." Just saying it how it is bud. "I showed you respect, and you attacked me." If that's what makes you feel better about yourself, then I wouldn't have it any other way. "It doesn't matter if you don't believe me," It sure does to you "f' off man." Nice, good for you. "You're not only offending me, but everyone else who has had this happen to them." Oh God, the army of people who jumped 20 feet and landed on a train are coming to get me! Hey, there's only one guy! "I don't care how ego strong you are, find something better to do than attack people." Your dishonesty is an attack in itself, and I counterattack. "You probably don't realize this, but you're seriously upsetting people." Right back atcha bud, "I'm not trying to start up some kind of bizarre flame war, I just don't want negativity on the thread I made." Yeah, that's why you keep responding, bud

Thanks for acknowledging I landed safely. We apparently disagree on a severe level, and this conversation is meaningless. I wish you the best, but also tip you good day. I will no longer be responding to you on this thread, regardless of how bad a person I see you as.

"We apparently disagree on a severe level" Disagree implies you believe yourself in what you say. And I too wish you a fine day, may the hills rise to greet you, and the sun shine on you, have a nice day.

The OP is done with you, but talk to me later, we seem to have different view point's on the matter.
And stop being disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, it make's it clear that all you want is an argumeet. It clearly never mattered to you if what the OP was say was true or not.

 

[Chalacachaca]

Fun thing is that you try that Krav Maga thing where I live and your funeral will be with a closed coffin.

 

[Kenko]

I avoid large groups at all costs at night, i'm not Batman, but I could be compared to Garret from Thief. I could've been mugged once, this group came around a corner and spotted me so I slipped into a side-street into an apartment area, just as I went around the corner I bolted and hid myself beneath a balcony behind some bushes in complete shadows and waited. Shortly thereafter they came running around the corner looking around for me. Arabic youth looking for Swedish targets as always, racist punks.

Oh so that shit about loads of foreiners fucking up Sweden is true then ?

Damn thats a shame. Sweden seemed like a nice place.

After reading through htis thread, I first doubted the OPafter reading his post, but the more he pted the more I was convinced its bullshit. I have a page or two to read, but so far he just sems to dodge questions.

Wouldn't say that they are "Fucking up" the entire country, that'd be blowing things out of proportion. But somalian's and the hillbilly mountain people fundamental arabs that we get here, since the educated arabs didn't move here in numbers. They are usually quite xenophobic and do not want to be part of our society or culture, nor respect it or the laws of this country.

A small anecdote though. My mother was invited along by her friend Dunia(Iraqi/muslim, one of the best persons ive ever met) to a Mosque to meet and partake in a sort of a "social gathering". Sure we could understand that people glanced and such, it's only natural as alot of swedes dont go there. But what was completley unforgivable was that afterwards they approached Dunia and told her never to bring my mother again. When she asked why, the reply she got was "Because she's swedish". Had they been swedish and the person they said wasn't allowed to be there was an immigrant, there'd been all sorts of "DONT BE RACIST" outbursts and other such bullshit.

Ofcourse,this is because of the previous governing parti inability to deal with immigration issues properly. The side-effect of immigrant racism towards the real swedish people, right-wing racist doucehbag parti's are gaining alot of votes and ground.

So the situation is hardly "Black and White". But it doesn't seem to be improving either.

P.S : Dunia also spoke out against the mistreatment and then left said mosque, ofcourse now she isn't welcome back.

 

[andriod]

Almost, i was walking down an alleyway to a mates place near the train station. This guy came up to me and was like "gimmie your shit." with a knife and all. he was obviously off his face to i told him to fuck off and he did.

When better than i expected

 

[razer17]

Not long ago three guys tried to mug me. They came up behind me in a small alleyway, asked me what I had on me, then on of them moved behind me to trap me, and said "we can do this the easy way or the hard way". It was such a cheesy line I kind of wanted to laugh.

On of them grabbed my arm ,but I yanked it free and legged it. Luckily it was still the middle of the day, and there were people around so they didn't follow. I'm an easy target, too. I can't fight and I'm not fast, so if you fail to mug me you should probably take up a different profession.

 

[Matthew McDonald]

the OP also preferenced their post, saying tehy know Krav maga (sure I misspelled it). people can lie, but why they would bother online...

Why would people bother lying online???? There are people online who tell the truth??? I am truly astounded that anyone believed the OP here...It's not even a believable lie...

 

[William MacKay]

excuse me sir but you happen to be batman
ok I will answer your question
We live in a bad world a very bad world

i agree with this 100%. the world is fucked up and so are the people. theyre desperate.
also, only batman can fight 5 people and survive by jumping onto a train barefoot.

 

[emeraldrafael]

the OP also preferenced their post, saying tehy know Krav maga (sure I misspelled it). people can lie, but why they would bother online...

Why would people bother lying online???? There are people online who tell the truth??? I am truly astounded that anyone believed the OP here...It's not even a believable lie...

I just siad I dont know why they would. Never said he was or wasnt.

 

[Atheist.]

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Actually yes, multiple fights over the years which includes weapons. Your story is so full of holes it could pass as swiss cheese. Passenger train? People would have been there. Freight Train? People would have been there. Both instances mean you would have never had to walk home. Even then, how did you get off? A train station has people there. How did you get off without anyone noticing? If you jumped off in motion, the force of the tumble would have killed you if the train didn't suck you under it. At the station, you could have asked for a phone and never had to walk home or any nearby store unless it was the dead of night. However, if the train is still running then its destination must still have people there.

Then, real muggers use weapons. Regular Kevlar can't even protect against a knife, and a baseball bat is a one hit weapon. Once you're hit with a baseball bat by a real mugger, you're down for the count from the force. Guns? At point blank you can't dodge that. A group of muggers? They would have over powered you by force. Training? All that training goes out the window unless you expect it. Muggers go by surprise, not by walking out like a 18th century rifleman battalion.

The human brain takes time to come to terms to what its seeing in an unexpected event, especially when its under fire. Being blindsided is unexpected, and would take precious seconds you don't have to think of a way to get out of it. Since you took out one guy without that standard reaction time, your story is questionable due to scientific evidence of the brain. This is the same method used to tell if someone expected something or not. Muggers go for money, I never heard any case that involved shoes being taken in a normal mugging. Taking someone's shoes is normally done to tourists who hide their cash in their shoes. Even then, the practice is normally done in third world countries or in severely destitute areas.

Timmibal covered the rest. You're story is full of holes, and you make no other rebuttal other than "you're wrong." Again, no evidence while I point out the holes in the story. If you try to tell us what happened, details are needed beyond the basics especially if its extraordinary. Otherwise, it sounds like something out of a Batman comic.

I made an attempt to read through your post kid. I really did. You are seriously misinformed. You honestly have no idea what happens in industrial trains. Don't claim you do, because you clearly just portrayed you don't. Do I need to prove my martial arts to you? Do we need to prove the degree that "we do?" I'm in a Krav Maga group and most of us can hold our own. Not being hostile, but being ignorant is beyond painful. You're so full of holes my noes can blow a hole though it. A whole so big, you'll miss tomorrow. Back off.

So its an industrial train, yet you never explain how you got off. If you're not willing to give details, I will assume you're a troll. A cop would have asked these kinds of questions as they are basic questions, yet you fail to answer every one of them and dodge them. How is that even possible? You go against scientific evidence, basic motive and behavior of a normal mugger, basic logic, basic continuity, and even dodge the questions entirely with NO BACKING beyond petty comebacks and denial. If it did happen to you, then you would have answered all these questions easily instead of resorting to slippery slope logical fallacies. Timmibal was the best in showing the problems with your story, and refuse to answer a single one as well.

Sorry I was on vacation for the weekend so I haven't had time to respond. I jumped off the bridge, did a semi roll upon landing, and I jumped off a bit down the line. You have to remember, the train was only going 10mph, so it isn't hazardous to jump off of. It was at night, there were no witnesses so I didn't call a cop. My word isn't exactly enough evidence and I didn't know their names. I'm not being a troll, I just don't have time to spend every hour on this website, I already have a backlog of like 20 quotes to respond to right now, so sorry if I can't get to every single person. You have to understand that after reading the same accusations repeatedly it gets a bit taxing.

Off topic, the lake was awesome even though I was sore as hell. Sun burned pretty bad, though.

 

[Atheist.]

20 feet... About 6 meters, right? So, you'd be hitting that train at about... 30 km/h. Ought to break a leg, hitting hard surface you can't even roll on to lessen the impact force.

Twenty feet is definitely doable. I have done it in the past as a teenager. Perhaps I should throw out This Link . Some random drunk dude falling 50 feet, compared to a sober guy jumping 20. Which seems safer?

Sorry, but I simply don't believe that you are judging this right, as do a lot of other people. Cool story as it may be, I can't really believe you fell 5 metres, let alone 6.

Alright, I don't really care. Not trying to be a dick, but this was in a familiar location. I know the bridge height, and I'm not trying to brag. While 20 feet is a decent drop, it's not life threatening. Either you're misinformed, or you're calling me a liar. Either way, you're disrespectful. I wouldn't be an ass to you if you got mugged, why the hell are you doing it to me? Are you seriously such a bad person you'd pick on a crime victim?

Massive amounts of sympathy dude but and this is a big but if you did fall 20 feet you'd be hitting the train at 60m/s not including the trains horizontal velocity which would add a whole other set of forces into this (hurrah for basic physics) and if you didn't roll on impact you would break your legs no matter how athletic you are, 20ft falls onto metal/concrete are predominantly fatal unless you land and roll correctly.

I'm not calling you a liar I just think this bit is somewhat exaggerated.

I'm pretty sure you miscalculated that. 20 feet isn't even 9.8 meters, which is what gravity is in m/s^2. At that point I'd be moving closer to 7m/s at that point since I would have been falling less than a second.

Edit: Just did the math, it's 1.1 seconds of air time so just under 11m/s.

 

[bluewolf]

I got mugged once by a kid in my class, he had a knife i kicked him in the face and broke his jaw. The next day at school I almost got expeled. Next time I`ll just run like alittle *****.

 

[Atheist.]

I thought I saw someone ask this earlier, and I maybe have missed the response but....why are you on the escapist instead of a hospital to check for injuries? Or sleeping? I got in a fight with 2 girls before, and I just completely crashed from exhaustion after the adrenaline kick died at the emergency room.
Secondly, have you reported this to the police?

Yeah....not going to get that answer, am i?

Sorry for the delay, as I just said I've been on a mini-vacation, and there is a large volume of posts when I originally made this thread and had to skim them, I likely just overlooked yours.

I'll answer your last question first. There are no cameras in the area, and the only witness is me, the victim. I didn't recognize the people, so I don't exactly have names. Reporting it just seems pointless, and several days have passed at this point.

I couldn't sleep because of the adrenaline at that point. I don't have health insurance, so unless I'm dying, unfortunately I'm not going to the emergency room. I've been in accidents before so I'm fairly familiar with assessing myself and my injuries. I know it's possible to miss things, but it didn't feel critical at the time. I just needed to get home and vent a little bit, but I don't want my friends and family to worry so I decided to post it online instead.

Also, another reason I failed to respond right away is because I was too busy simply replying to the quotes to notice, so sorry about that. I'm really not trying to ignore people here, but as I've said a few posts ago I simply lack the time.