So I just watched Civil War
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7.5 Out of 10 if you ask me. Solid fun but enough problems. My main issues:
- The action really needs to be cured of its shaky-cam-syndrome and the problematic, Hollywood action editing. The choreography looked cool enough, but sometimes I almost got nauseous from the camera movement.
- Some very lazy plotholes. Bucky just got from Bucharest to Berlin in a heartbeat? Why did Vision not just laser-eye the jet instead of that control tower? And there's a few more like that.
- A bit of cringeworthy CGI. Notably Spiderman looked a little iffy from time to time, if you ask me.
- The way they handled the whole international politics part was weird. It's like they wanted to do something with it but didn't dare to properly do it. So the whole Accords thing felt weird and unbalanced to me.
What I liked though:
- The balance between action and drama.
- Also the balance between fun and drama. Especially the meta crap surrounding Aunt May and Spiderman in general cracked me up.
- It finally having some dramatic tension, because this time it doesn't matter much whether one of them dies. There's morale, and moral, stakes this time around. That felt a lot more satisfying.
- Black Panther was baller as fuck. Especially that one thing near the end, you know what I'm talking about.
- Spiderman was pretty much like I envisioned him from the 90's cartoon that I loved, so that made me happy.
- An interesting and more subtle villain.
And last but not least:
- The action really needs to be cured of its shaky-cam-syndrome and the problematic, Hollywood action editing. The choreography looked cool enough, but sometimes I almost got nauseous from the camera movement.
- Some very lazy plotholes. Bucky just got from Bucharest to Berlin in a heartbeat? Why did Vision not just laser-eye the jet instead of that control tower? And there's a few more like that.
- A bit of cringeworthy CGI. Notably Spiderman looked a little iffy from time to time, if you ask me.
- The way they handled the whole international politics part was weird. It's like they wanted to do something with it but didn't dare to properly do it. So the whole Accords thing felt weird and unbalanced to me.
What I liked though:
- The balance between action and drama.
- Also the balance between fun and drama. Especially the meta crap surrounding Aunt May and Spiderman in general cracked me up.
- It finally having some dramatic tension, because this time it doesn't matter much whether one of them dies. There's morale, and moral, stakes this time around. That felt a lot more satisfying.
- Black Panther was baller as fuck. Especially that one thing near the end, you know what I'm talking about.
- Spiderman was pretty much like I envisioned him from the 90's cartoon that I loved, so that made me happy.
- An interesting and more subtle villain.
And last but not least:
The villain pretty much won this time around. That was a nice surprise.
Nah man, it makes sense. Last time I checked that cohort was named like that because it'll be the first generation to come of age in the new millenium. But whatever, it's just a label anyway.Souplex said:
Just got back from watching Captain America: Civil War.
My first thought? I have gone off popcorn. Maybe my taste buds is shot but popcorn no matter the flavour is just awful and bland.
Secondly? Black Panthers BEAST!!!
Thirdly, Aunt May is way too hot!! The way they introduce Peter Parker/Spider-man was nice and took one scene to show what he has done, how he's done it and there we go.
Fourthly, I liked the movie. Had good structure, pace moved along nicely and the end conclusion was good.
Lastly, trailers lie. Will that's been know since the first ever movie in history.
My first thought? I have gone off popcorn. Maybe my taste buds is shot but popcorn no matter the flavour is just awful and bland.
Secondly? Black Panthers BEAST!!!
Thirdly, Aunt May is way too hot!! The way they introduce Peter Parker/Spider-man was nice and took one scene to show what he has done, how he's done it and there we go.
Fourthly, I liked the movie. Had good structure, pace moved along nicely and the end conclusion was good.
Lastly, trailers lie. Will that's been know since the first ever movie in history.
No, that would be Gen Xers. The average birthday of those guys is around 1980, so they were the first to come of age in the new millenium. The oldest members of the Gabest (Named for Gabe Russell, (Not to be confused with that hack Gabe Newell) the voice of our generation) generation came of age in 04 at the earliest, and the majority came of age in '09Cowabungaa said:
I watched it in a block screening sponsored by my batch (as in school batch), so there were a lot of young women and muscle-obsessed dudebros in the audience. During the heli scene, there was a LOT of screaming and cheering.Baffle said:
That part with Bucky, I'm fairly sure that he was arrested in Bucharest and then was brought to Berlin. And I guess the GSG9 were the ones who had intel on his location? As for Vision, true, I suppose he could destroy the Quinjet, but I guess he didn't want to? It is their jet after all.Cowabungaa said:
Yeah, Spider-man was a bit uncanny valley. He was actually wearing a physical suit in some scenes, and it looked fine. I wonder why they didn't use it for more scenes.
I've given myself a week to digest what I saw because I am the kind of person to take everything in after watching a new movie, let it sit for a while, analyse it and assess what I saw and like/dislike about the movie without other people's views playing influence.
What I said earlier about the movie I stand by but I want to touch on the villain for a bit. I like my villains. I do. Marvel Studio haven't had the best villains. Some awful, some unforgettable, some just making no sense. Marvel Netflix at the moment, brilliant. However, the villian in this movie, I got his motive, I see why he did what he did but I felt he wasn't needed because the members of the Avengers, apart from 2 missing, were going to clash anyways. Also if one character didn't mention the thing he mentioned, then the villain would have just been waiting there for God knows how long. It was built on chance. A narrow one at that.
What I said earlier about the movie I stand by but I want to touch on the villain for a bit. I like my villains. I do. Marvel Studio haven't had the best villains. Some awful, some unforgettable, some just making no sense. Marvel Netflix at the moment, brilliant. However, the villian in this movie, I got his motive, I see why he did what he did but I felt he wasn't needed because the members of the Avengers, apart from 2 missing, were going to clash anyways. Also if one character didn't mention the thing he mentioned, then the villain would have just been waiting there for God knows how long. It was built on chance. A narrow one at that.
It was pretty damn good, and I like that the
villain actually won this time. Also though the movie tried as much as possible to split the difference between the two of them, ultimately Ironman was right and the majority of the movie is Captain America's fault.
I liked it. I think it's my favorite Marvel movie. Nothing felt forced to me, I like that they wrapped up some hanging threads from Winter Soldier, Black Panther was awesome, Spider-Man actually looks and acts like Spider-Man, the action was insane, and Ant Man doesn't belong there--I mean that in a good way, of course. These are all superheroes by choice, while he's just kind of like, "Oh, um...right! Hey, I here too!" He's perfect.
I loved everything about this movie, especially the end where
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I loved everything about this movie, especially the end where
where we see that no one has really changed their minds about the Accords, but they realize that they're still on the same team, even though it's broken
I loved it so much. Except the part where both sides were pretty unreasonable.
The Government is like "the Avengers literally saved the World possibly 2-4 times..." (Avengers, Winter Solider, Age of Ultron, the Intro events of Civil War) "...lets give them zero benefit of the doubt"
And Cap is like "A bunch of countries want to have a reasonable sit down discussion limiting us and I'm going to go nah-uh and not attend"
The Government is like "the Avengers literally saved the World possibly 2-4 times..." (Avengers, Winter Solider, Age of Ultron, the Intro events of Civil War) "...lets give them zero benefit of the doubt"
And Cap is like "A bunch of countries want to have a reasonable sit down discussion limiting us and I'm going to go nah-uh and not attend"
Pretty strong praise when Superman fan Angry Joe's making comments about how he wants Marvel to do the DC movies.
I had a few niggles with it but I will state that I am NOT a comic book reader, I have 4 that my GF bought me and they are the Bill Willingham.
Firstly, why have the Cap'n and Stark switched personalities? In the iron man films, Stark has always been the rebel, the trouble maker ... "you can do this" and he does it, for example: don't tell people where you live and he tells them. Then in this film he is told "you have to sign this contract" and he nearly rips it out the guys hand to sign it ... ok, he did show signs of character development, like when he almost sacrificed himself by nuking the aliens in avengers assemble and he gets a few feelies like the kid in Iron man 3 and the PTSD stuff.
On the other hand, the only guy who dethrones superman as the biggest boyscout, captain America goes all Jason Bourne and doesn't sign the contract?
Next on my list, what the fuck was Vision doing during the first half of the airport fight? Off doing Sudoku? He only shows up when he goes all "honey, I blew up the kid", did he look up from his puzzle and think "oh shit, where did he come from? Looks like they could use my help!"
Thirdly, the bad guy did the Loki thing (but better) and got the hero's to kick each others ass ... or did he? The big rift came from the cap'n and Stark not agreeing on the contract, the bad guy in all this was the governments. The guy who was meant to be the bad guy did what? Killed a hydra member, killed a psychologist, read a book to Bucky and then showed a video to Stark. He didn't help the situation but it's not like he was Thanos.
Fourthly, speaking of the bad guy, why did the bad guy kill the super winter soldiers? It's the bit I don't understand. Didn't he go through all that trouble 'cos Iron man dropped that city on his family (or something) and he wanted to bring them down, which I get but what do the super winter soldiers have to do with that?
Firstly, why have the Cap'n and Stark switched personalities? In the iron man films, Stark has always been the rebel, the trouble maker ... "you can do this" and he does it, for example: don't tell people where you live and he tells them. Then in this film he is told "you have to sign this contract" and he nearly rips it out the guys hand to sign it ... ok, he did show signs of character development, like when he almost sacrificed himself by nuking the aliens in avengers assemble and he gets a few feelies like the kid in Iron man 3 and the PTSD stuff.
On the other hand, the only guy who dethrones superman as the biggest boyscout, captain America goes all Jason Bourne and doesn't sign the contract?
Next on my list, what the fuck was Vision doing during the first half of the airport fight? Off doing Sudoku? He only shows up when he goes all "honey, I blew up the kid", did he look up from his puzzle and think "oh shit, where did he come from? Looks like they could use my help!"
Thirdly, the bad guy did the Loki thing (but better) and got the hero's to kick each others ass ... or did he? The big rift came from the cap'n and Stark not agreeing on the contract, the bad guy in all this was the governments. The guy who was meant to be the bad guy did what? Killed a hydra member, killed a psychologist, read a book to Bucky and then showed a video to Stark. He didn't help the situation but it's not like he was Thanos.
Fourthly, speaking of the bad guy, why did the bad guy kill the super winter soldiers? It's the bit I don't understand. Didn't he go through all that trouble 'cos Iron man dropped that city on his family (or something) and he wanted to bring them down, which I get but what do the super winter soldiers have to do with that?