So, I passed out during Prometheus today. . . [SPOILERS TOO]

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rhizhim said:
Going slightly off topic: Anybody else notice how the Engineers look like marble statues? The same ones that portray, say, Greek gods.



Coincidence or something more?
 

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You know, i've been meaning to find somewhere to say this but:
That machine? The surgery machine?

What kind of bullshit was that? That's the worst sci-fi machine i've ever seen. "OMG! FIX ME!" so it comes out with a fucking staple gun and one of those robot claw machines, and is all 'you are now fixed' after it's just inflicted massive internal injuries and not bothered to fix them.

I was torn between lolling and cringing in that scene. Also, at least 4 people other than me were screaming out 'flame-thrower!' when it was wriggling on the claw.

Friend whisper-shouted 'I LOVE YOU MAMMA' in my ear when it grabbed the dude and saved the girl, i laughed so hard people threw popcorn at me.


Another complaint, why the hell did they talk about a 100% DNA match when the alien dudebros looked so obviously different?
That's not a 100% DNA match. If it was, they would average 6 feet tall and have at least some hair. That's a 99.99% match right there, not 100%.
 

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Great story, glad you're all better and don't need people to explain door handles to you or anything as a consequence of explodey brain syndrome.

madster11 said:
You know, i've been meaning to find somewhere to say this but:
That machine? The surgery machine?

What kind of bullshit was that? That's the worst sci-fi machine i've ever seen. "OMG! FIX ME!" so it comes out with a fucking staple gun and one of those robot claw machines, and is all 'you are now fixed' after it's just inflicted massive internal injuries and not bothered to fix them.

I was torn between lolling and cringing in that scene. Also, at least 4 people other than me were screaming out 'flame-thrower!' when it was wriggling on the claw.

Friend whisper-shouted 'I LOVE YOU MAMMA' in my ear when it grabbed the dude and saved the girl, i laughed so hard people threw popcorn at me.


Another complaint, why the hell did they talk about a 100% DNA match when the alien dudebros looked so obviously different?
That's not a 100% DNA match. If it was, they would average 6 feet tall and have at least some hair. That's a 99.99% match right there, not 100%.
Maybe they're just really into hair removal and take some sort of artificial steroid to make them stupidly tall and hench?
 

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I'm with you that scene nearly made me break my streak of never throwing up during a movie. Honestly, that scene rivaled Human Centipede in levels of "HURAAAARRRGLAB."
 

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Was kinda worse than any chest burster scene.
That was the point. It was just trying to one-up the Alien scene.

And damn it got the job done...

Since I saw that scene I have a new-found appreciation for my mother having a C-Section to birth me into existence.

I love you mom.
 

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denseWorm said:
I really resent Lindelof [sic], he coped out and said everything in LOST was "oh, phleh, just religious" and way too much religion and 'yeah, i have blind faith, SO SUE ME' crap in Prometheus.
First of all, I think that you're giving Lindelof a bit too much credit. Jon Spaihts wrote the script for Prometheus, while Lindelof was brought in to perform rewrites, in order to make the project work on a cheaper budget than Scott & co. had originally intended it for.

I agree with you on Lost being a huge cop-out, but that's not the case with Prometheus. In Prometheus, blind faith is not rewarded, it is punished. Every time characters follows their faith, instead of reason, things turn out for the worse.

When first visiting the Engineer establishment, Fifield and Millburn are disgruntled by what they find, and decide to leave the rest of the team and go back to the ship, except they have no guide or protection, because earlier, Shaw refused having an armed escort in the team, trusting that the Engineers couldn't possibly harbor hostility. We all know how that turned out.

Ironically, earlier in the movie, when Shaw was making her presentation, Fifield and Millburn were the most skeptical, asking "We're here because of a map you two kids found in a cave?", "But how do you know?", to which Shaw arrogantly replies "I don't, but it's what I choose to believe."

The whole story is driven forward by gestures of blind faith, and then it explores the consequences of those actions.
Weyland's decision to send an incredibly expensive expedition on very thin evidence, Shaw's belief that the aliens wouldn't be hostile, Weyland's belief that the aliens could somehow save him, and so on.

Prometheus in no way makes a case for blind faith, quite the contrary, and the writing is nowhere near Lost's incoherent dribble.
 

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man, that scene made me go "lordy", and thats saying something XD

What made it even worse was when the egg cracked and all the alien goo fell into her OPEN wound!

Lordy XD DID NOT expect that in a 15 rated film!

It was just weird how she seemed ok after it.... and how she was able to TEAR OUT the umbilical cord...
 

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denseWorm said:
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The fact that Shaw mentions her religion so much jumped out at me as spawn of he who turned LOST into a television preach show, Scott didn't deal with religion in the initial alien movies (perhaps Alien 3 in a weird way) and it seemed out of character to have that girl challenging everyone who got close to doubting her brazen decision to trust in providence.
So, basically, what you're saying is, you didn't like Shaw as a character. Fair enough, I suppose.

The fact that the movie shites all over it is not what I'm going on about, but rather the fact that it seems to be a huge part of the protagonist's motivation.
I would say the movie challenges faith, rather than shit all over it.

EDIT: We should also all take a moment to have some lolercopter'ing about how terrible the sequence of scenes this post is talking about are. The huge gaps in timing and plot... all apparently done to keep the movie relatively short and fast paced... if studios put that much money into making such restricted films then we'll never see a true classic again!

"Ah I will choose not to be sedated by the dose administered by the super-efficient Android,
Except she was, and the sedative had worn off by the time the movie cuts back to her. A better question would be why the crew didn't put her into hyper-sleep while she was still sedated.
ah I will run through the ship without running into anyone else,
Probably because everyone else was preoccupied with the grotesque monstrosity killing crew members left and right in the cargo-bay?
ah i will get into the top secret survival pod and into the multi billion dollar surgery pod
It wasn't a secret, and in fact, Shaw was invited there by Vickers earlier in the movie.
ah i will spend ten minutes screaming as the machine cuts out an 'obstruction' in my belly,
What exactly did you expect her to do?
ah i will walk into a sick bay without batting an eyelid and sit down, be handed a cup of coffee and have absolutely no one try to help me or at least clean me,
Which is partly the point. No one rushes to aid Shaw, because once Wayland is revealed, she is no longer in charge, and her well-being is no longer a priority to anyone.
Also, in the scene that follows, we see that she not half as bloody as she was previously, suggesting perhaps that they did clean her up, and maybe even gave her medical attention as well.
ah no one realizes there's an alien in the survival pod thingo even though the blonde chick lives in the survival pod
That's the first real plot hole you've mentioned so far. I hope the Director's Cut of the movie is going to address that.

Captcha: fifth column
Oh fuck off, V.
 

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madster11 said:
You know, i've been meaning to find somewhere to say this but:
That machine? The surgery machine?
Well the machine did say it wasn't equipped to do such surgery. And i think she was programming it to do a rush-job, i would too if i was stuck in a little pod with a squid :D


As for the DNA, meh i dont know, evolution to the enviroment? That can change appearance quite a bit.
 

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LtWigglesworth said:
And I know some people find Davids behaviour odd, but is it too far to suppose that something akin to curiosity had developed? Hence him infecting the crew member. He may have also felt something akin to anger or disappointment. I mean, if you found out that your gods were humans and they made you "because we could", you would feel a bit disappointed wouldn't you?
Yeah i came to the same conclusion, the aliens evolving over time. And dave developing some kind of emotion (curious) to infect the other guy. But not having fully devolped morals to know what he was doing was wrong :p
 

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I thought you meant passed out as in fell asleep. You know, cause the movie was so boring and bad.