So, If everyone with HIV/Aids dies,there would be no more HIV/Aids.

[krazykidd]

This much is obvious.If everyone that is attained with HIV/Aids dies,it would no longer exist.Though is way the virus(?) came to be is unknown (although there are theories), what is known is that it cannot developpe on it's own, it can only be transmitted through contact with blood, sperm or vaginal fluid.This means one of three things:

a)Eventually everyone with HIV/Aids will die, and so will the virus and it will never affect the human race again.
b)The Virus will spread more and more until one day (in the far future ) the majority of the earths population is afflicted with HIV/Aids, and it won't ever cease to exist unless a cure is found.
c)A cure is found, and the virus is erraticated.

Now out of the three possibilities i have listed here, option A is the most practical, C is the most likely and B is the least likely.

What's my point? In this day and age, with all the technology and knowledge we have, there is no reason for this virus to be spreading.We all know that we should practice safe sex to protect from STDs.We all know that we should get tested, when we change partners to reduce the chance of getting or spreading an STD.Therefor in theory,the virus should disappear ( or should have already disapeared) on it's own. Yet it isn't. It's still here and it's spreading as fast as ever.

I blame the stupidity of humanity for this. There is no reason,for the virus to continue to spread at the rate it is spreading,time should be the only factor determining the erradication of HIV/Aids.Yet it isn't, people (most unknowingly ) are still spreading it , due to their carelessness and ignorance. I do understand that some children are born with the virus due to their parents having it and giving it to them,which is unfortunate, but even though this is true,it is the responsibility of the people with the virus to stop it's spread, instead of waiting for a cure.

Another possibility is a purging ( round up and kill everyone that is HIV positive).But this is completly inhumane and immoral and i could never condone this. Even though it might argubly be whats best for the future of the human race, to erradicate the virus.

TL;DR: Do you think we should still spend time and resources to cure the HIV/Aids virus? When time should be the obvious way to erraticate it? By preventing the spread of the virus, the virus will die on it's own , with the last person that is infected.But Knowledge and responsibility is the main key to this method. Do you think it is even possible that this method would work?

 

[Simonism451]

So? What's the discussion value?

 

[JoJo]

The idea that people could stop HIV spreading full stop is idealistic but impractical. Even using a condom doesn't mean you're 100% protected and expecting millions of people to be celibate for the common good of humanity isn't feasible. Hopefully soon a cure will be found and the virus will disappear in all but the poorest countries.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Have you ever stepped out of your house?

 

[orangeban]

Okay, I don't blame stupidity for the spread of HIV/AIDS. I blame two things

1) Lack of education. Best example is the developing nations of Africa, where people have very poor sex education, if any, and just keep spreading the disease because they don't realise what they are doing. However, this also happens in developed countries, either through crap education, lack of education or abstinince-only education.

2) Accidents. They happen. People get drunk, don't use a condom. Or the condom slips or breaks or it was a shitty condom in the first place. Or someone gets raped, or doesn't realise that they have it and contaminate someone who assumed they were clean. Shit happens, and that really sucks.

And those two things aren't anyones fault (well, you could blame the lack of education on politicans and the like, but that's another issue).

 

[Woodsey]

I'm just going to sit and time how long it takes for some stupid twat to say bombing Africa is the answer.

 

[saintdane05]

You remind me of the main villain in the teen series "Maximum Ride." She tried the exact same thing, only it involved flying wolf robots.

Ahhh, the memories.

 

[Torrasque]

Tell me time is the cure to HIV and AIDS when you get it.
Also, all diseases/viruses/etc. can survive without inhabiting humans. They can either be transmitted through animals, insects, or just be dormant on some kind of fungus. Or the disease/virus/etc. could just be a natural occurrence, i.e. it exists in nature as a plant's defence system, or an animal's digestive system.
The only way to completely be rid of any disease/virus/etc. is to exterminate every trace of it. Destroying the hosts might work, but is not entirely reliable.

 

[VoidWanderer]

While I try not to poke holes in people's theories, I would like to point out a couple.

1) If the people afflicted with HIV/AIDS were to pass on, the virus could still be passed on by a mosquito or scavenger. Also just because they are dead doesn't mean the virus will die. It will just become dormant. It's why they are still outbreaks of the Ebola virus in Africa.

2) You also seemed to have forgotten that not everywhere in the world is able to make these safe practices. Africa has a very high AIDS/HIV infection rate, but they are aware of the disease.

3) There is a very strong chance that there are people who are 'carriers' for this virus. People who are not as affected by it and pass it on without knowing they are doing so.

4) How can people who are ignorant of their affliction be blamed for 'stupidity'. Also your 'point' about it getting passed on genetically... This again boils down to people not being aware of their predicament, or even caring about it.

5) A cure for a virus would be very impressive. The common flu virus has been around for decades, and it was only through natural evolution we we are able to get through the Bubonic plague.

And I do not mean to 'troll' you, but if you are going to try and make a logical argument about something such as this, please remember how the English language works.

 

[Maze1125]

You completely miss an option.

D) No cure is found and the virus doesn't die out but still only remains limited to a small percentage of the population.

"But how is the possible?" you ask.

Simple, as you said your self, stupidity.
Much of the human race is careless, a proportion of that is careless enough to catch HIV. But that doesn't mean they all are.

Assuming no cure is found, the most likely option is that the most careless of the human race will continue to spread the virus amongst themselves, and a few unfortunates outside of their group. While everyone else will be careful enough to essentually remain safe. So the virus remain perpetually in a percentage of the population while never spreading to the rest.

 

[FoxVI]

So we should all practice safe sex and behave responsibly? Gee, that's a nifty plan. I'm gonna go spread this good news to the corrective-rape gangs patroling South Africa. By the way, no one is "attained" by anything; "to attain" is an action taken by the subject. I believe the word you were looking for is "affected".

 

[krazykidd]

Tell me time is the cure to HIV and AIDS when you get it.
Also, all diseases/viruses/etc. can survive without inhabiting humans. They can either be transmitted through animals, insects, or just be dormant on some kind of fungus. Or the disease/virus/etc. could just be a natural occurrence, i.e. it exists in nature as a plant's defence system, or an animal's digestive system.
The only way to completely be rid of any disease/virus/etc. is to exterminate every trace of it. Destroying the hosts might work, but is not entirely reliable.

This is not true for aids. Animals can get aids , but it's not the same type that affects humans , and it cannot be transmitted to humans.Now i'm not sure if say an animal or insect bites a person with aids and then bites another person without it, if the second person would contract it.

 

[Xanadu84]

1) You forget that people sometimes are born. Meaning that it is not a closed system. Meaning the virus can propagate at its current rate indefinitely. Neither a natural dying out nor complete infection of the globe is realistic.

2) Africa. Can you blame them for not having rigorous screening and highly organized resistance to this public health hazard?

3) After a person is exposed and before they have sex, all we have to do is stop people from having sex. This is totally realistic. How likely do you think you are to stop everyone from having sex? Because if, as policy, you make exceptions, a percentage of those exceptions will spread the virus.

4) So basically we quarantine. That thing that always works in zombie movies. Of course, AIDS is different. It is harder to detect, and therefore less likely to be successfully quarantined.

5) A cure is unlikely? In Thailand, there has already been tests with a marginally successful HIV Vaccine. Gamers recently helped unlock a protein protease that will help stop the Virus. Remember in the Mid 90's when AIDS was a death sentence? We have come increadibly far in a short time. Africa's economy is growing surprisingly fast, a major obstacle for breaking out of the third world and into higher standard of living. A Cure is quite feasible.

Also, if everyone with AIDS dies, the rate of new infections would remain almost exactly the same. If everyone with HIV died, the virus would be eradicated. But that happening is also a practical impossibility, and will never happen.

 

[SckizoBoy]

And those two things aren't anyones fault (well, you could blame the lack of education on politicans and the like, but that's another issue).

This will invite a lot of controversy... but you can also blame religion... when the Pope says condoms don't work (i.e. at all)... someone's going to listen and believe that. Like those idiot lay-preachers who went on about how drugs weren't helping a couple of patients somewhere in Lond, can't remember, they wound up dead within two months of stopping their medication.

 

[RagTagBand]

What's my point? In this day and age, with all the technology and knowledge we have, there is no reason for this virus to be spreading.We all know that we should practice safe sex to protect from STDs.We all know that we should get tested, when we change partners to reduce the chance of getting or spreading an STD.Therefor in theory,the virus should disappear ( or should have already disapeared) on it's own. Yet it isn't. It's still here and it's spreading as fast as ever.

Oh hey 1981, Hows it going? It's a pity you've missed out on the past 30 years because otherwise you wouldn't make such sweeping, ignorant statements!

See this? Its from the Millennium Development Goals Report that was taken in 2010. I'm sure that from wayyyyy back in 1981 shit looks like its getting worse and worse, but the reality of the situation is very different.

Just in case the ability to read graphs hasn't quite made it into the '81 curriculum, here's what it says

- The amount of people being newly infected with HIV has been steadily decreasing since 1996
- The amount of people dying from AIDS peaked in 2003 and has now begun to fall due to medical advances
- The number of people living with HIV is rising, but at a drastically reduced rate. between 1990 and 1994 the amount of people with HIV doubled, 7 MILLION more people had the disease in 4 years. between 2004 and 2008, the most recent 4 years on the graph, only 2 million extra people are living with the disease...and thats with lower mortality rates as well. It looks to be forming a bell-curve and it looks about ready to peak.

But there's another unfortunate problem to your analysis - WE, the western world, may have the technology, the health-care and the education to avoid getting and spreading the disease...but guess where HIV is most prevalent? Go on, guess. That's right, it's most prevalent where they don't have the technology, the health-care or the education, and that here in the western world it actually ISNT that big of a problem. WHO'D OF FUCKING THUNK IT?

Is it a poverty map? Is it an average lifespan map? is it a GDP map? They all look so similar, and there's a reason for that. Again, shocker, right?

Now there's a shit ton else wrong with your little short story straight from the mind of "Lord Monckton" (look him up, he had similar ideas in the 80's and is currently a climate denying fraudster...to be generous) but Your gish gallop (again, look it up) has already swallowed far too much of my time so i'll just summarize the rest with NotSureIfTrollingOrJustVeryStupid.jpg

Have a nice day now.

 

[kouriichi]

It wont eradicate the human population.
To many nerds will grow old without ever getting laid. ((trololololol joking))

AIDS/HIV will almost kill itself off. The massive number of people will peak at one point in the future, everyone without AIDS will abstain from sex for 4-5 years, and the disease will eradicate itself.

 

[loc978]

So you're saying we don't need a cure, we need a Final Solution?

...what? Someone had to invoke Godwin's Law...

 

[fix-the-spade]

TL;DR: Do you think we should still spend time and resources to cure the HIV/Aids virus? When time should be the obvious way to erraticate it? By preventing the spread of the virus, the virus will die on it's own , with the last person that is infected.But Knowledge and responsibility is the main key to this method. Do you think it is even possible that this method would work?

The fastest way to stop the spread of HIV would be carpet bomb the southern African contintent with nerve gas.

In fact, that would solve a whole heap of economic, political and agricultural problems too.

Be very glad I'm not ruler of the world.

 

[Maze1125]

1) If the people afflicted with HIV/AIDS were to pass on, the virus could still be passed on by a mosquito or scavenger. Also just because they are dead doesn't mean the virus will die. It will just become dormant. It's why they are still outbreaks of the Ebola virus in Africa.

No it couldn't. HIV is very very fragile. It can't survive for any length of time outside of a human body. No animal is a carrier because the Human Immunodeficiency Virus can only survive in humans.

2) You also seemed to have forgotten that not everywhere in the world is able to make these safe practices. Africa has a very high AIDS/HIV infection rate, but they are aware of the disease.

That's wrong too. They're quite capable of being safe, it just an unfortunately high proportion of the population doesn't care or know enough to be.

3) There is a very strong chance that there are people who are 'carriers' for this virus. People who are not as affected by it and pass it on without knowing they are doing so.

No shit Sherlock.
HIV is a very slow working virus, people can carry it for years without knowing. The existence of carriers isn't a "strong chance" it's a known fact.

4) How can people who are ignorant of their affliction be blamed for 'stupidity'. Also your 'point' about it getting passed on genetically... This again boils down to people not being aware of their predicament, or even caring about it.

The stupidity isn't the lack of awareness, the stupidity is the failure to practice safe sex.
Unsafe sex without knowng a full sexual history is stupid regardless of if you have HIV or not.

Edit: As for genetically. No one has mentioned that but you. For good reason. It can't be passed on genetically, as it's not a genetic disease, it's a virus.

5) A cure for a virus would be very impressive. The common flu virus has been around for decades,

Of course, because there is no one flu virus, and they mutate rapidly. We can vaccinate against the flu, it just mutates into a different form. That doesn't apply to HIV, they are completely different viruses. A cure or vaccine for HIV is quite a possibility. In fact. I know of reports of people being cured already though bone marrow transplants.

and it was only through natural evolution we we are able to get through the Bubonic plague.

Well, duh, that was a few hundred years before medical technology existed. No wonder they didn't have a cure.

 

[Flailing Escapist]

We just kill all the people with aids and all the aids will disappear!


Duh! Why didnt anybody else think of this?