So, I'm interested in Simcity. What game should I get?

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Newtonyd

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Lieju said:
I was under the impression Dwarf fortress was about adventuring and battling, but reading up on it, it seems interesting.
Just know that you're getting into one of the most complicated games in existence. The controls are difficult/tedious, the user interface is hostile, and the path to 'victory' is often inscrutable. On the other hand, the game is ridiculously deep and replayable and the rewards can surpass every other civilization construction game. It doesn't hurt that there's an active modding community and the game itself is free and being consistently updated and developed.

If you want to get started, I suggest looking for some tutorials on Youtube. This one is perfectly serviceable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g_SaPQpKbU&hd=1
 

wurrble182

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on the subject of zeus: master of olympus, if you like deep complex city simulators beware. it is a seriously watered down version of the others games of that ilk, emperor, pharaoh and the like. i was under the impression it was aimed at a younger audience tbh.
 

Frybird

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Sim City 4, i'd say. You can get it for around 10 bucks.

It had some cutbacks when compared to the other games (the region size is not as large as 2000, but a LOT larger than Simcity 5), and it is not the most accessible (that'd be Sim City Societies, the original Sim City or Sim City 5), but i think it hits the middle ground perfectly.

It does away with some annoyances of the past (underground building in 2000 is a pain) while being still a massive, feature-rich simulation that also looks much nicer than an 10 year old game probably should
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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I suggest you get yourself a nice legal full-featured copy of Sim City 4 and enjoy it.

That's mainly just because I really don't feel like recommending Sim City aka Sim City 5 aka Steaming Pile of Dung. Should EA sort their crap out and decide to get real, they might patch Sim City 5 so it's not just an experimental DRM DLC vehicle. Before that happens, though, I suggest you stay the hell away.
 

tkioz

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I'll chime in with another vote for Tropico 4, basically Simcity on a smaller scale, with a much deeper political side. It's also got a quirky offbeat sense of humour about it... and well... where else can you send your private death squad out to kill someone who is pissing you off?
 

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Lieju said:
Greyhamster said:
Lieju said:
I'm looking for a game where your own incompetence and internal problems like starvation and crime are the bigger threats than rival players.
If that's what you're looking for the most and you have lots of spare time, patience and tolerance for weirdness: Dwarf Fortress.
I was under the impression Dwarf fortress was about adventuring and battling, but reading up on it, it seems interesting.
There is a mode called 'adventurer mode' which is about adventuring and battling, but dwarf fortress mode the main mode is about building and sustaining a dwarven fortress.

Dealing with your primary issues of sourcing clean and regular drinking fluid, water or otherwise (dwarves love their booze) and the production of enough food to feed your dwarves, hunting, fishing, or growing are all suitable methods to get grub.
Keeping the dwarves happy is also important, which includes making sure they get their creature comforts and are not excessively harmed or they will tantrum, which due to the way the AI works can result in a tantrum spiral where dwarves start rioting and smashing the place up until they are all dead (or almost all.)
However, keeping dwarves happy means enriching them in many ways, when you get wealthy you will attract unwanted attention. First you will have thieves and baby snatchers when they are stopped, ambushes on your caravans, if those fail you may end up under siege from an invading army.
You might also attact the attention of an angry dragon, giant golem or evil ettin etcetera.

You can deal with this in any way you choose. Simply wall yourself into a huge sustainable archaeology and never open to the outside, train up an army and take the fight to the foe, use set piece traps, build your own custom traps using the physics in the game world (my favourite is the dwarven toilet, you make a big stone bowl which enemies, traders and dwarves have to path through to get in and out, surrounded by flood gates with a hole in the middle... )

The game uses some physics. Fire spreads, materials have ignition, melting and boiling points (so melt those invaders under a rain of lava!) water has flow and can be pressurised with big reservoirs to make water cannons.

Oh and of course.. digging too deep can be fun.

I suggest you get 'lazy newb pack' since it comes pre modded with a tileset which is nicer to look at than the default ascii, if you want more fun in your game you can try 'masterwork' it adds a bunch of stuff including new threats and problems (like cthulu cultists who infiltrate your fortress)

So, I'd recommend dwarf fortress since its free and days and days of fun if you can get past the difficult learning curve (its the minecraft of city builders) If you want a commercial game like simcity, well, why not Simcity 4, Tropico 4 is good, but its light on the actual.. city part, more like town builder.

Additionally, for a wildcard try Startopia, you manage and run a sci fi space station. An oldie but really good and has aged well I think.
 

Silvianoshei

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Simcity 4 isn't bad, but it's really poorly optimized.

Tropico 4 would be your best bet. It's really, REALLY good, but has a third-world theme to it. Kinda takes a bit of getting used to.
 

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Lieju said:
I used to play some of the older Simcity-games as a kid with my friend's computer, can't remember which one, though.

But the city-building-game I really was into was The Pharaoh, and all this talk of Simcity has made me nostalgic, and feeling like playing a game like that again.

For obvious reasons, I'm not going to get the new Simcity, so what city-management-game can you recommend?
I really liked Pharaoh because of the setting and the storyline, and some historic or fantasy-setting like that would be preferred.

(Or should I just try to get Pharaoh working again?)
Sim City 3000 Unlimited was the one that I enjoyed the most. It is relatively easy and fun to get into for anybody.

The soundtrack will keep you going for hours