Please don't let your mouth get you in trouble on my account. I'm not talking four years ago. That's 2007. Let's face it by 2007 the 360 had been out for two years. The graphics in general for the generation have been more or less set. I'm talking eight years ago and beyond. The heady and turbulent days of 2002 and 2001 and before. Large graphical jumps. So, yeah. A four year old graphics card is on par. However, go any more beyond that and anyone's going to see issues.crazypsyko666 said:
So I'm Trying to Become a PC/Computer Player
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People have given some great advice already so I don't have much original to add.
What I will say is if you don't know what RAM to get use the Crucial Online System Scanner. THis will tell you how much RAM you have, and, more importantly, EXACTLY what type of RAM your computer takes. Very useful, and easy to use.
What I will say is if you don't know what RAM to get use the Crucial Online System Scanner. THis will tell you how much RAM you have, and, more importantly, EXACTLY what type of RAM your computer takes. Very useful, and easy to use.
I'd say this. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post them here?!? but there are some good online sites than can get you a good deal on a gaming system.Woodsey said:
If you have any mates that can build PC's get them to do that becuase it will be cheaper.
My questions for you are, does your desktop have a 16X PC-i Express slot on the motherboard.chuckey said:
Also, what is your PSU wattage? Many modern GPU's such as the Nvidia GTX 460 requires at least a 500 watt PSU. Most Pre built PC's come with a 300 watt PSU as standard, which isn't enough power to run the card. So get a new PSU if it is under 500 watt.
In terms of Ram, 2 Gigs is minimum, 4 Gigs is enough, 6 or 8 if you want it future proof, and more than that...well...retarded.
Also, the differences between the I5, and the I7 isn't that much different in terms of gaming, as many games haven't took advantage of the faster processor. Hell, it's only been a short while since games started supporting dual core processing let alone 4, or 6 cores. So i would get the I5 personally.
The Nvidia GTX 460 is the best card to go on if you have a budget, i hear that it can run most modern games at the highest spec, and yet it's incredibly cheap.
I know, that's what i'm going to get when i upgrade my computer.
I know what you mean, but at the end of the day "owning" is just a concept, and one that is becoming outdated in the information age. What are the important elements of "owning" something anyway? that you have it available to you whenever you want, and that no one has the right to take it from you.Inkidu said:
Well those criteria are absolutely fulfilled by steam and its kind, and in the apocalypticly unlikely event that steam goes down for any amount of time, or god forbid permanently, you will still have the games installed on your hard drive and can still play them... you can even have backups.
As for DRM, its just an inconvenience we have to deal with, once digital download becomes ubiquitous it should be a lot more seamless and less intrusive, Here's hoping anyway. And dont think you'll escape DRM by sticking with consoles, DRM has already reached consoles and with the next generation I think you'll see the PC as a relatively unrestricted platform... just my guess.
OT: Simple answer, your RAM is absolutely fine (in both systems), forget about RAM, you need a new graphics card in the main PC though and the CPU is a little weak. Put a mid range GFX card in the PC and it will game just fine... I wouldn't bother with a high end one though as you will be limited by that CPU. The laptop will play some games but dont expect too much in terms of high fidelity FPS games.
If you do change out your graphics card don't forget to check out how big the damn thing is, I went from a Radeon (sp?) 4870 from I think 3 to maybe 5 years ago, to a 6970 a few months ago and I actually had to chop out a part of my case to fit the damn card into it. (at least I only had to chop out the extra Hard Drive bays and not something I actually needed)
But if you do end up getting a new graphics card its usually best to get a higher end one (at least that's what me and my friends do) so that you don't have to spend X amount of dollars "every few months" but usually every 3 or 4 years if you want to stay at the top (at least that's what I do)
But if you do end up getting a new graphics card its usually best to get a higher end one (at least that's what me and my friends do) so that you don't have to spend X amount of dollars "every few months" but usually every 3 or 4 years if you want to stay at the top (at least that's what I do)
Well, sadly not all of us have high-speed internet. However, I own my drawer of 360 games, I own my DS games. I can trade them into Gamestop, I can sell them online. I cannot (in good will) sell a PC game to someone else (unless they don't have a DRM code, and I would still technically be breaking the law). I can't trade it in. It's more of a commitment. Hard copies are just a bonus.Continuity said:
I game on an ATi Mobility Radeon 5870, 1GB GDDR5 and clock/mem speeds are 700/1000MHz. It runs basically everything maxed out at the moment, there are a few games I have to turn down AA for though. Not including poorly optimised games, either. It's based on the desktop 5850. Pop one of those badboys in and you'll be good for a long time.
You need a graphics card.
Right now you don't have an actual graphics card,but a chip of your motherboard that is just enough for giving you picture.
With your cpu you will be able to play most of today's games but not at maximum settings at good frame rates.
Right now you don't have an actual graphics card,but a chip of your motherboard that is just enough for giving you picture.
With your cpu you will be able to play most of today's games but not at maximum settings at good frame rates.
Well I dont have high speed internet either, unless you call 400k (more like 250k ave) down a high speed. Sure some games are large but just start the download before you go to work and it will be done when you get home.. simples.Inkidu said:
As for trading games in or selling them etc.. TBH i've never really considered that as a factor as I'd never want to get rid of a game.. Anyway I often go back to old games to replay them and even discounting that as a reason I guess I collect games, I like to see them there, completed or not... Selling them seems almost sacrilegious.
I realise others do things differently and to some trading games in is a common thing... Well all i have to say is make the most of it because it wont be possible on any platform for much longer the way things are going.
Go and download indie games. You'll find plenty of great ones, and the file sizes/peformance required is minimal
Well, other than the fact that I have a limit to how much I can download (10 gig that has to last me a whole month. You'd be surprised how fast it can go.) if I hit 100kbps it's a good day.Continuity said:
I trade in games, but I'm not like a turn-around trader. They stay with me for months or years. Usually the sequel's coming out, or I've just played it to death. I've got a good memory so it's hard for me to go back a lot of the time because I don't forget a lot. I keep a lot really good games around though. Mostly real time sinks like GTA IV ME1/2, Dragon Age, etc, but stuff like Dante's Inferno, Brutal Legend, Just Cause 2 they kind of wear out their welcome. I like having some play in my property is all.
I think our resident technical experts have pretty much covered the basics, so I'll just give the most important advice for becoming active in the PC community:
Don't ever get discouraged.
It takes a long time, a lot of frustration, a lot of trial-and-error, and a lot of learning to figure out the nuances. But it's all worth it the first time you build your own rig from scratch, or quintuple the life of a great game because of mods, it's all worth it. Not to mention you'll learn a lot of skills that can be useful in other areas.
Don't ever get discouraged.
It takes a long time, a lot of frustration, a lot of trial-and-error, and a lot of learning to figure out the nuances. But it's all worth it the first time you build your own rig from scratch, or quintuple the life of a great game because of mods, it's all worth it. Not to mention you'll learn a lot of skills that can be useful in other areas.
The G33 chipset is not the graphics, it's what family (or class) your motherboard belongs to. The best way to find out what you motherboard specs are is to crack open your case. And some where on the motherboard should be labeled the maker of your motherboard (i.e. ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock) and their designations tag (i.e. M3A770DE, GA-A75M-UD2H, M4A89GTD PRO. once that's done, it's simly a matter of finding your motherboard on their website.
After doing a quick google search your cpu socket is LGA 775, assuming that is your correct processor. LGA 775 is a dead socket, meaning no more new processors will be added, with the highest processer you can get being the Core 2 Quad.
My best advice for you is to build a new computer and is a site that will greatly help you:
www.tomshardware.com
After doing a quick google search your cpu socket is LGA 775, assuming that is your correct processor. LGA 775 is a dead socket, meaning no more new processors will be added, with the highest processer you can get being the Core 2 Quad.
My best advice for you is to build a new computer and is a site that will greatly help you:
www.tomshardware.com
Okay yes I have a PCIE X16 slot and my PSU wattage is 250Jazoni89 said:
also here is a pic of my motherboard from the actual online manual http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01324212&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en#N441
I find generally when it comes to gaming, that the Graphics card ends up being the most important part. Next most important would be your Processor. If you have Windows Vista or beyond, do a little spec check to see what Microsoft at least thinks of your computer's capabilities.
Edit: I looked up your Graphics card the, ATI Radeon HD 3200, and it's not very good. You might want to get a better one if you can. According to a website, it clocks Oblivion at 15 fps, and Crysis is completely unplayable.
Here's a link: http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-3200.9591.0.html
Edit: I looked up your Graphics card the, ATI Radeon HD 3200, and it's not very good. You might want to get a better one if you can. According to a website, it clocks Oblivion at 15 fps, and Crysis is completely unplayable.
Here's a link: http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-3200.9591.0.html
220 is a multimedia GPU not a gaming GPU, so it's designed primarily for DVD playback and online multimedia (Flash stuff, vids, etc)chuckey said:
Rule of thumb for nVidia cards is from the 200 series up is you want the last 2 numbers to be 50 or higher. For ATI/AMD cards from the 2000 series and up the 2nd number should be at least a 5.
So for nVidia it's *50 and for ATI/AMD it's *5**
Oh yeah, and to run any modern, half way decent gaming GPU card you're gonna going to have to drop in a PSU of at least 400W