So it looks like a Star Wars KOTOR movie is happening.

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https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/05/24/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-kotor-movie-revan

And I have seen this rumor before like months ago. I wonder if this is the Star Wars Project Benioff and Weiss are tackling?

Personally I prefer if this was in the MMO SWTOR universe because 1. Darth Malgus > Darth Malak.

2. I feel that was at a time when both the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire were evenly matched. They could have done not only battles but politics and intrigue and the ideological differences between the 2 factions so as to make them not completely black and white/Good vs Evil.
 

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So, is Johnson the one who's gonna do it or are the Game of Thrones guys? If the former, I'm cautiously optimistic. If the latter, I'm preemptively pessimistic.
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
So, is Johnson the one who's gonna do it or are the Game of Thrones guys? If the former, I'm cautiously optimistic. If the latter, I'm preemptively pessimistic.
If its both at the same time then all hope is lost for Star Wars.
 

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Don't care.

No, sorry, I don't care. If the three trilogies we've had so far deal with Jedi vs. Sith in some form or another, why on God's green Earth would you make your trilogy about Jedi vs. Sith again, other than to have more Jedi and Sith than usual?

Course I know why from a production standpoint, but sheesh.

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Satele Shan or no deal
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Hawki said:
Don't care.

No, sorry, I don't care. If the three trilogies we've had so far deal with Jedi vs. Sith in some form or another, why on God's green Earth would you make your trilogy about Jedi vs. Sith again, other than to have more Jedi and Sith than usual?

Course I know why from a production standpoint, but sheesh.

Gordon_4 said:
Satele Shan or no deal
Obligatory "this deal is getting worse all the time" and "I am altering the bargin, pray I do not alter it any further" references.
The best part of any Star Wars is the lightsaber fights. The problem with the movies taking place post-Jedi is there are so few. The best parts of the prequals was there actually being Jedi and Sith around. The best part of Kotor is that Jedi and Sith are EVERYWHERE.

A big disappointment of the current movies is I was hoping for a rise in Force Users, not a rehash of the 'All the Jedi except this one and some old master in hiding vs 2 guys in black'.
 

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Is KOTOR not part of the extended universe that the new movies apparently made not-cannon based on what people were saying a few years ago? (this is a legitimate question, I don't follow SW)
 
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PsychedelicDiamond said:
So, is Johnson the one who's gonna do it or are the Game of Thrones guys? If the former, I'm cautiously optimistic. If the latter, I'm preemptively pessimistic.
Both.
Best outcome possible; they will subvert our expectations so much, we'll end up in square one, with perfectly serviceable, if standard, SW movie.
 

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MrCalavera said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
So, is Johnson the one who's gonna do it or are the Game of Thrones guys? If the former, I'm cautiously optimistic. If the latter, I'm preemptively pessimistic.
Both.
Best outcome possible; they will subvert our expectations so much, we'll end up in square one, with perfectly serviceable, if standard, SW movie.
We've had nothing but perfectly serviceable, if standard, SW movies ever since Disney acquired the franchise, with the only one coming close to doing something interesting with it being Johnson's. Now that they've got the obligatory fansevice trilogy almost out of the way it's time to start experimenting.
 

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Saelune said:
Hawki said:
Don't care.

No, sorry, I don't care. If the three trilogies we've had so far deal with Jedi vs. Sith in some form or another, why on God's green Earth would you make your trilogy about Jedi vs. Sith again, other than to have more Jedi and Sith than usual?

Course I know why from a production standpoint, but sheesh.

Gordon_4 said:
Satele Shan or no deal
Obligatory "this deal is getting worse all the time" and "I am altering the bargin, pray I do not alter it any further" references.
The best part of any Star Wars is the lightsaber fights. The problem with the movies taking place post-Jedi is there are so few. The best parts of the prequals was there actually being Jedi and Sith around. The best part of Kotor is that Jedi and Sith are EVERYWHERE.

A big disappointment of the current movies is I was hoping for a rise in Force Users, not a rehash of the 'All the Jedi except this one and some old master in hiding vs 2 guys in black'.
I like lightsaber fights as much as the next guy but Jedi and Sith are the worst.

I really hope they mean the Last Jedi but I doubt it
 
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MrCalavera said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
So, is Johnson the one who's gonna do it or are the Game of Thrones guys? If the former, I'm cautiously optimistic. If the latter, I'm preemptively pessimistic.
Both.
Best outcome possible; they will subvert our expectations so much, we'll end up in square one, with perfectly serviceable, if standard, SW movie.
We've had nothing but perfectly serviceable, if standard, SW movies ever since Disney acquired the franchise, with the only one coming close to doing something interesting with it being Johnson's. Now that they've got the obligatory fansevice trilogy almost out of the way it's time to start experimenting.
Trainwreck of interesting ideas mixed up with poor execution and mindboggling idiocy it is, then.
 
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trunkage said:
I like lightsaber fights as much as the next guy but Jedi and Sith are the worst.

I really hope they mean the Last Jedi but I doubt it
"The Last Jedi" didn't really deliver, and the next one is called "The Rise of Skywalker" AND it's directed by JJ Abrams, so i would not expect Jedi and Sith(or their stand-ins) going away really soon.
Plus, if the movie above is a prequel, loosely aiming at that KotOR feel, we may get more Jedi and Sith than all of the previous movies combined(barring prequels maybe).
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
We've had nothing but perfectly serviceable, if standard, SW movies ever since Disney acquired the franchise, with the only one coming close to doing something interesting with it being Johnson's. Now that they've got the obligatory fansevice trilogy almost out of the way it's time to start experimenting.
Star Wars absolutely does need to stretch its legs out and explore with genre and atmosphere, but liondick's "take" on it is absolutely not where it needs to go, least of all under the stewardship of someone like him. KoTOR 2 worked because Avellone has actual dramatic writing chops, and Obsidian was absolutely willing to play it completely straight and throw Star Wars' light action/sci-fi bent the fuck out the window, to force the player to feel that crushing existential weight upon which the game's story relied.

Rogue One was all right, but it was the sign of an oncoming storm. By all accounts the original cut was dark, violent, and had a lot more pathos and suspense than the theatrical cut...everything it would have needed to be truly special, but it was those qualities that apparently spooked Lucasfilm and Disney. Instead, we got...blue milk and a money shot of C-3P0 and R2, I guess.

Likewise with Solo. Solo was a helluva lot more entertaining than it had any right being, but the fact its strongest beats were when it played up Lord and Miller's intended "action-comedy heist" theme and tone says everything. I get that Lord and Miller didn't exactly run a tight ship, but their instincts about what the film needed to be were spot on, and I can't help but wonder how much of that was dampened when Disney stepped in and replaced them with Howard.

The common vein with both these movies, is the paradox for them to truly work, they had to not be stereotypical Star Wars movies. The suits mandated a stereotypical Star Wars movie, and they didn't work. And the one time the studio stepped out of the way, Kennedy hand-picked a guy whose vision and instincts were totally wrong, and couldn't keep his own script tonally or thematically coherent.
 

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The best thing about a KOTOR movie would be that all of the KOTOR fans will stop bitching about Darth Revan not being in a Star Wars movie, and that would be because they'd be bitching about how Darth Revan wasn't done right, or how that wasn't "their" Darth Revan.
 

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Saelune said:
Hawki said:
Don't care.

No, sorry, I don't care. If the three trilogies we've had so far deal with Jedi vs. Sith in some form or another, why on God's green Earth would you make your trilogy about Jedi vs. Sith again, other than to have more Jedi and Sith than usual?

Course I know why from a production standpoint, but sheesh.

Gordon_4 said:
Satele Shan or no deal
Obligatory "this deal is getting worse all the time" and "I am altering the bargin, pray I do not alter it any further" references.
The best part of any Star Wars is the lightsaber fights.
More like the worst, you mean. At least the original trilogy treated lightsaber fights as merely an extension of the ideological conflict between characters. In the prequels it's turned into a ballet of fanservice wankfest.

Nope, the best part of Star Wars has always been the wars, among the stars. Ditching the plodding slow sci-fi of the 1950's-70's and replacing it with a healthy dose of faster, in your face WW2 style mayhem on a more personal, individual level.

That's why A New Hope is still regarded as way better than any of the prequels, despite having the least lightsaber porn of the lot.

 

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I'm not onboard with lightsaber fights being the worst part of Star Wars, but Squilocke does have a point about their narrative function in the OT bar the PT (well, except from RotS in my mind).

I mean, when you look at this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdgmH9Vv2-I

I mean, tell me where the emotional weight is compared to stuff like Luke vs. Vader, or Obi-Wan vs. Anakin.
 

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Do we have any kind of plot details? Can't really get enthusiastic or annoyed if I know nothing about the movie other than "may exist at some point"
All we have to go on is a Buzzfeed article saying a writer is working on a Kotor movie project according to three close sources.

My guess is Lucasfilm doesn't even have a first draft yet, let alone any pre-production work. They may actually not have any concrete plans for a KOTOR movie at all yet, and intentionally leaked this to gauge how much audience interest there is before making any real commitments.

That's assuming it's not a hoax or something.
 

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Squilookle said:
Saelune said:
Hawki said:
Don't care.

No, sorry, I don't care. If the three trilogies we've had so far deal with Jedi vs. Sith in some form or another, why on God's green Earth would you make your trilogy about Jedi vs. Sith again, other than to have more Jedi and Sith than usual?

Course I know why from a production standpoint, but sheesh.

Gordon_4 said:
Satele Shan or no deal
Obligatory "this deal is getting worse all the time" and "I am altering the bargin, pray I do not alter it any further" references.
The best part of any Star Wars is the lightsaber fights.
More like the worst, you mean. At least the original trilogy treated lightsaber fights as merely an extension of the ideological conflict between characters. In the prequels it's turned into a ballet of fanservice wankfest.

Nope, the best part of Star Wars has always been the wars, among the stars. Ditching the plodding slow sci-fi of the 1950's-70's and replacing it with a healthy dose of faster, in your face WW2 style mayhem on a more personal, individual level.

That's why A New Hope is still regarded as way better than any of the prequels, despite having the least lightsaber porn of the lot.
When I think of all the best parts of A New Hope, it is never the actual fight between Vader and Obi-Wan. Its the end, sure, but not the fight itself.