The best part of Star Wars for me was never the Lightsaber duels but the Spaceship battles. My first Star Wars related video games were the Spaceship ones like Rogue Squadron and the spaceship parts of Shadows of the Empire.Saelune said:
So it looks like a Star Wars KOTOR movie is happening.
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I swear to the atheist committee that created this universe that if D & D are involved in this movie will crash, and burn.
As someone who played the hell out of Rogue Squadron and loved it (SotE not so much), I highly recommend you check out the X-Wing series if you haven't already. An X-Wing pilot's dream, cranked up to 11. TIE Fighter is especially golden.Samtemdo8 said:
I already have it. I even bought a flightstick. But man are they so complex it will take me a week to master the game to play the story campaigns.Squilookle said:
These are personal opinions, and I get them. They are what make you you. So I honor that. I'm merely putting my views against it for a different perspective of the ideas.Squilookle said:
To your first point, it makes sense that the first lightsaber fights would have more of an ideological tete a tete than any other fight we've seen. In the Prequels, the Jedi did not know the Sith existed. In the Sequels, The Sith/First Order were thought destroyed and the only Jedi left hasn't picked up his weapon for possibly decades. Then you mix the concept of Sith only fighting with Rage and Jedi taught to fight merely to defend... there isn't much for emotional release there. Especially when you have a group of people specifically taught to suppress their emotions lest they literally become what they are fighting against.
Now, I won't stay the lightsaber battles in the Prequels were that... realistic. Nor will I say they are practical. But I actually get it, spending most of my life in one form of martial arts or another. You attack what's attacking you via the threat presented conjoined with how you've learned to fight.
As an example, as a Tae Kwon Do student (as Most US Martial Artists started at during their youth...), if I saw Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, I would size him up and think that my kicks are not getting through all muscle. My only acceptable targets are his head, his knees, his hips, his feet and his neck.
Yet, the point is moot because as a professional wrestler, he's going to probably try to close the distance and use his overwhelming strength to slam me into the floor. If I have that knowledge, I'm probably not going to throw any kicks to the head as all he'd have to do is parry or sidestep and grab me as I try to rechamber (if my kicks aren't fast enough).
What's all this mean? When you have a weapon that when it merely touches you, it can melt through you with just the ease of natural gravity, you're going to keep the hell away. You're going to always be on your feet. They deflected blaster bolts with ease and did simple strikes to bring down regular foes, but with Sith they have enemies just as fast as they are with weapons just as dangerous. You're going to get the hell out of the way for those things. You might not know who this person is, or why rage emanates from them constantly, but you're going to get he's trying to kill you and you're going to use every tactic in your book to control the distance and pace while looking for an opening.
I get the idea of Fanservice Wank. They did hire martial artist and stunt people who could fight, so of course there's a spectacle aspect to it. But it's a movie. There's a spectacle aspect to everything about it. From the clothes to the lighting. It has to be somewhat flashy, but yeah, with a weapon that can melt you in seconds, I get why people would be hopping about.
Although if I had a lightsaber, I think I would brush up on Rapier work. Wide swings are a bad idea.
This isn't to you Squilookle, but I fail to understand why people will not get why Jedi train themselves to suppress their emotion. Brightburn couldn't have come out at a better time for this point. If you have the power of what is tantamount to a God and you get angry, who can stop you? As we saw with The Force Awakens, The Force is simply a naturally occurring phenomenon in this galaxy. A Force Sensitive can develop their powers on their own. And the... well, expunged lore is rife of how bad that goes most of the time.
Same caveat that I expressed with Squilookle. I understand your viewpoint comes from your perspective, so I'm merely asking questions.Hawki said:
This is something that also I have trouble understanding. If J.K. Rowling wrote a book about normal cops who deal with normal crimes that just happened to be in the Harry Potterverse without any bit of magic, people would wonder what's the point. If the next movie in the X-men universe was about the dangers of Fracking without any spandex, it might have real life parallels but then the question would remain why put it in such a universe?
Yes, there are many interesting parts of the Lore like the Night Sisters, Jensaarai, and others that are even Force Sensitive as well. But those are deep dives into a Lore that I'm pretty sure doesn't exist any more.
The campaigns teach you the ropes as you go. But secret confession time: as a kid I couldn't remember the keys, so I never played the campaign in TIE Fighter back then. Instead I stuck to the Combat Chamber/Historical Missions. The first training mission for the TIE fighter itself was so basic I could get by with the 'T' key, Enter, and the fire button. Back when I was young I must have spent thousands of hours in that one scenario against the ever increasing odds of X-Wings.Samtemdo8 said:
It's not the same thing. The entire focus of Harry Potter is magic, right from the first few seconds. Star Wars was a Star Wars film with barely 2% force use, but loads and loads and loads of ships blasting away at each other, shootouts on spacestations and spaceports, and stealing and exploiting enemy plans to run a war, in space. And people ate it up. Rogue One could have had no Vader lightsaber swinging at all and you know damn well it would have performed just as well at the Box office without it.ObsidianJones said: