So, Nintendo won E3, right?

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Matthew Jabour

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I don't hear a lot of disagreement on this one. Bayonetta, Xenoblade X, Yoshi's Yarn Thing, Kirby, Cap'n Toad, Smash Bros., new Zelda, new kind-of-Zelda, that squiddy thing that looks pretty cool - basically everything was a huge plus. Sony and Microsoft really dropped the ball on this one, and it seemed Nintendo took advantage of it all.

That said, I've been wrong before. If this is another case of fanboyism clouding my judgment, I'd like to know. Because otherwise, I'm just going to go ahead and say Nintendo won E3.
 

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So far, I have to agree with you that Nintendo won E3. I am not personally a Nintendo Fanboy, people generally accuse me of being a Sony Fanboy usually.

Xenoblade X, Star Fox, Zelda and Super Smash Bros. alone got me to say this.
 

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Maybe it's because I own a Wii U, and not any of the other Next Gen consoles at the moment (though I do have a PS3 and Xbox 360, so I wouldn't say I'm a Nintendo Fanboy). But I would have to agree. Everything that has caught my interest so far has been Nintendo based. Was excited to see the new Smash Bros characters (not particularly excited by Pac-Man but they can't all be winners). Splatoon looks like it has potential as both a Hardcore and Casual game. Zelda news piqued my interest, and hearing that Bayonetta 2 finally got a release date got me all tingly. The only other thing that has caught my attention so far is news on Dragon Age : Inquisition.... but I haven't actually looked at it since I'm purposely avoiding anything to do with the game til it comes out because I want everything to about it to be a surprise. Nothing from Sony or Microsoft has really made me happy. The fact that Bloodbourne is PS4 exclusive actually pisses me off more then anything. I feel like I eventually will pick up a PS4, but it is going to be very reluctantly, and not for a few more years.
 

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I wouldn't say they won E3, they just finally started delivering... somewhat.

I don't really care at all about Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros. or Xenoblade (which has some of the worst faces ever btw). And Yoshi's Yarn and the Kirby claymation thing just seem to lean on their neat visual concept alone.

Really the only game that got me excited was the new Zelda. And that's mainly because Nintendo is finally showing off some fresh visuals again.

I'm still more excited for whatever's coming out on the PS4. Not that they won or anything.
 

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I wasnt aware anyone dropped the ball? I got new info on games I was curious about, and some new titles to be curious about.

But sure. Lets say that you liked a a bunch of titles, and didnt like a bunch of other titles, and thats because someone else fucked up, rather than your personal preferences.
 

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Elijin said:
I wasnt aware anyone dropped the ball? I got new info on games I was curious about, and some new titles to be curious about.

But sure. Lets say that you liked a a bunch of titles, and didnt like a bunch of other titles, and thats because someone else fucked up, rather than your personal preferences.
I requested debate, not sarcasm. If you feel I was wrong, then by all means persuade me towards your point of view.
 

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I agree that Nintendo had a really good show, but saying Sony and Microsoft dropped the ball is just silly. All three brought it this year.
Elijin said:
I wasnt aware anyone dropped the ball? I got new info on games I was curious about, and some new titles to be curious about.

But sure. Lets say that you liked a a bunch of titles, and didnt like a bunch of other titles, and thats because someone else fucked up, rather than your personal preferences.
+1
 

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nothing they showed really interested me, i say Sony had the strongest showing overall

hell, the PS4 is getting a Grim Fandango reboot, nothing short of presenting Jesus himself on stage couldve topped that one
 

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Matthew Jabour said:
Elijin said:
I wasnt aware anyone dropped the ball? I got new info on games I was curious about, and some new titles to be curious about.

But sure. Lets say that you liked a a bunch of titles, and didnt like a bunch of other titles, and thats because someone else fucked up, rather than your personal preferences.
I requested debate, not sarcasm. If you feel I was wrong, then by all means persuade me towards your point of view.
Well, I dont know who won. Everyone had some interesting things to show.

Im just saying, nobody dropped the ball just because you didnt like the offerings of some, or liked other offerings more. So there isnt a debate to be had. Everyone was a winner.
 

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Yup, and in one word: Treehouse.
I hope this becomes the standard for future E3s.
 

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I would say this is a case of your admitted fanboyism. Yes, Nintendo did "win E3" with its' announcements + Treehouse and Smash tourney (dat Megaman Final Smash!), but Microsoft and Sony didn't drop the ball.

Hell, the only bad moment from any of the big three I would say was when Sony decided to talk about TV and other shit for half an hour.

Bar that, though everything else has been great.
 

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Fanboy in me: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (Had to get it out of my system.)

Non-fanboy:I think they won due to less of the usual of overhyping something then it becomes disappointment. Also I think Microsoft were close to winning E3 and from what I've heard Sony's conference was too long and barely had anything enticing besides from Uncharted 4 etc.
 

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Matthew Jabour said:
If this is another case of fanboyism clouding my judgment, I'd like to know. Because otherwise, I'm just going to go ahead and say Nintendo won E3.
Speaking as a (currently) non-Nintendo owning gamer, I'd say Nintendo owners have every right to be happy, and while watching their conference I did think for the first time it'd be nice to have a Wii U.

On the other hand, it was very much a case of Nintendo being very good at being Nintendo. They started off joking about how they weren't going to do a Mario game, then showed Mario fighting in Super Smash Bros., then had two games based around characters from the Mario universe (Toad and Yoshi) then introduced a new Mario game anyway. While I'd quite like to play all these games (and Bayonetta 2) what they didn't really do is to address the problem of third-party support on the Wii U. If I get a Wii U rather than an One/PS4 I know there are a whole bunch of non-Nintendish games I'm going to miss the chance to play.

I'm not sure anyone particular won E3 from my perspective. (That of a current Xbox360 owners who is on the fence about which next-gen console to eventually buy probably a PS4 at the moment). Highlights were scattered all over the place. Was it just me or did both EA and Ubisoft seem to have a lack of titles coming out soon?

EA:

I appreciated that line EA took by saying a lot of these games are still early in development and gaves us 'documentaries' of the developers talking rather than thirty seconds of 'teaser trailers' which tell us nothing. They've got some potentially good games a long way off: Battlefront, the new Criteria vehicle game, to a lesser extent the new Mass Effect. When you got down to what EA was releasing in the near future, all we really had that was solid was the Sims 4 and Hardline (which I thought they did a good job of making look fun, even if I'm not a massive multiplay shooter fan) and the yearly Sports iterations.

Ubisoft:

Seem to have many of the big AAA titles coming out soon; AssCreed, the Division, Rainbow Six, the Crew. I'm not interested in the TC shooters so much, but thought AssCreed looked stunning enough that I was interested in it again (while still having all the gameplay issues that AC is known for) and the Crew looked very good.

Microsoft:

Halo is obviously big business for MS so I can hardly blame them for focusing on this and the Masterchief collection does seem like such good value I might get it and try to finally understand why the series is so popular.
With Scalebound, it good for MS that they have a Platinum-made exclusive, that said I thought the trailer was a little strange so I'd have to see more to understand what the game actually is.
Forza Horizon 2 - Great
Sunset Overdrive - Great
Project Spark and Fable Legends - Meh
Uri and the Blind Forrest - Looks like Rayman Origins with extra tears and darkness, which would be a good thing.

Then we have all the stuff that Microsoft and Sony had in their conferences but would be on both consoles anyway (GTA V, AssCreed, Destiny, Arkham Knight etc). I'm frankly not influenced by who has what DLC/beta first, so it all becomes a bit pointless thinking about who showed what when.

Sony:
No Man's Sky - Looks potentially great.
The Order 1886 - I'm increasingly getting the feeling this is going to be a turd. Happy to be wrong.
Let it Die - The trailer didn't interest me, though Suda 51 is usually interesting if nothing else.
Little Big Planet 3 - Doesn't look as good as the Nintendo platformers or Uri, so counting it as a Meh.
Grim Fandango - It's great that its going to exist, but hardly a system seller.
The Last of Us - Great game apparently, great I'd get to play it on PS4, but Sony is trading on past glories.
Uncharted 4 - Haven't played the first 3 so it's not surprising I wasn't terribly excited about this.

Actually now I've come to list them, I realize that Sony's press conference was actually a lot weaker than it seemed to be. On that basis I would say:

Microsoft beat Sony. Nintendo's doing its own thing well. Ubisoft beat EA on titles nearing completion, but EA has some interesting stuff for the future. Overall a draw.
 

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LaoJim said:
Matthew Jabour said:
If this is another case of fanboyism clouding my judgment, I'd like to know. Because otherwise, I'm just going to go ahead and say Nintendo won E3.
Sony:
No Man's Sky - Looks potentially great.
The Order 1886 - I'm increasingly getting the feeling this is going to be a turd. Happy to be wrong.
Let it Die - The trailer didn't interest me, though Suda 51 is usually interesting if nothing else.
Little Big Planet 3 - Doesn't look as good as the Nintendo platformers or Uri, so counting it as a Meh.
Grim Fandango - It's great that its going to exist, but hardly a system seller.
The Last of Us - Great game apparently, great I'd get to play it on PS4, but Sony is trading on past glories.
Uncharted 4 - Haven't played the first 3 so it's not surprising I wasn't terribly excited about this.

Actually now I've come to list them, I realize that Sony's press conference was actually a lot weaker than it seemed to be. On that basis I would say:

Microsoft beat Sony. Nintendo's doing its own thing well. Ubisoft beat EA on titles nearing completion, but EA has some interesting stuff for the future. Overall a draw.
Didn't they show some From Software title also? But yeah, not too exciting imo, i want to know more about Let it Dienand Grim Fandango is going to be cool, i never had a chance to play it. Unfortunately they won't release it on ps3. But a lot of it were sequels to games i didn't care for and a rerelease of Last of Us, a game i could buy allready, if i cared enough.

I was a ps3 (and Wii + Ds) guy this generation, but this time i'm mainly leaning towards Nintendo and not much else.
 

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In one of my rare forays from lurking into actual posting, I'd agree with the premise that non of Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo "won" E3.

The only winners out of E3 are gamers, regardless of what console you own or plan to buy, or whether you stay with the PC master race, there has been plenty shown for everyone to be excited about. It's a good time to be a gamer and its an industry that continues to grow and move forward in all aspects, providing exciting things for everyone regardless of where you get your fix.
 

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MrBaskerville said:
Didn't they show some From Software title also?
Knew I'd forgotten something. Okay +1 for Sony, although to be honest I was less interest in this than DA3 and the Witcher, probably because we didn't see much of it.
 

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How does one win E3?

You thought Nintendo had a great press confrence with great games being unveiled, my last Nintendo console was the Game Cube so I had no interest.

A couple of the games shown at the Ubisoft confrence caught my attention then again so did a couple at the Sony show.

Microsoft was a let down, but then again I have no interest in purchasing a Xbox One so that my tint my opinion on that.

EA tried to change peoples opinions of them, saying that they're listening to the player and by opening the Battlefield beta to everyone there and giving folks watching online a chance to register, but their EA and it seems most games are programmed to hate them.

I have to agree with RidleyValiant, the gamer won, we saw games that we want to play!!
 

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Well Smash Bros and Grim Fandango are pretty much the only games I'm interested in and Sony lose points for having no gameplay footage of Project Beast or whatever it's called now, so yeah, Nintendo win for me. And that's kind of sad since I don't have a lot of love for Nintendo these days.
 

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I didn't realise it was a competition, do they get a trophy and everything?

Seriously, I'm not a fan of most of nintendo's franchises, and am much more interested in a new IP by Miyazaki, the next Far Cry instalment, infinite free roam space sims like No Man's Sky. So i guess we can say Sony won E3 right? But then there are probably people that are big fans of realistic racing depictions and or Halo games, or love Insomniac's quirky humour in combination with weapons ratchet and clank would be jealous of, so then i guess Microsoft won E3.

Honestly, I find the idea of companies 'winning' E3 on par with console 'wars'. I'd much rather say that we, as people who enjoy gaming in all its variety and creativity, and who now have a wealth of options, are the winners.
 

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putowtin said:
How does one win E3?
If you are one of the three console manufacturers, you win by having substantially more viewers opine that they're thinking of buying your console (glad they bought your console/regret buying your opposition's console etc). Hence by general agreement (and to some extent PS4:XboxOne sales figures) Sony won last year.

In that sense, for me personally, both Microsoft and Nintendo won this year in that I'm slightly less likely to buy a PS4 and am now considering a XBox One or WiiU slightly more.

SmallHatLogan said:
Sony lose points for having no gameplay footage of Project Beast
In fairness From Software only shipped Dark Souls 2 a couple of months ago, there's no way they could have had meaningful gameplay this soon. I'd argue that if you are a Souls fan, the fact that the next one is exclusive is still a win for Sony.