So Pewdiepie has deleted his Youtube channel...

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PewDiePie has Proven to be a Sociopathic Liar and People Love It

I am not joking, unlike PewDiePie who seriously says he's not joking, only to later reveal he was bold-face lying as a means of trolling people. I am being completely serious, although it seems now just saying "I am being completely serious" can in itself be taken as a joke. The guy acted as if he represented the interests of YouTubers, trying to make a point that YouTube needs to listen to people and be more transparent instead of screwing up the site's code. He then revealed it was all a big 'joke' where it seems lying to a large amount of people about an issue people have been worried about, is a joke.

Now it would be one thing if this were simple trolling followed by immense hate, except where is the hate?

His video gloating it was a prank is vast majority upvotes. He is at this very moment doing a livestream with Markiplier and Jacksepticeye for charity along with a couple other schmucks, which basically means all of those main faces of YouTube are completely okay with the ridiculously abhorrent act of belittling the issues YouTube has promoted just to gain hate-based subscribers and troll people who are legitimately concerned about YouTube. Further, there are no other popular videos complaining about this, many people even acting as if what he did was funny or that it was even bad for people to want him to delete his channel, which would signify YouTube needs to change and help people get that point across finally.

Did the whole world turn completely fucking retarded or are people slow to react to the most popular YouTubers allying with one of the most influential guys on the internet who just used his mass of influence to say "hey if you have a problem with YouTube screwing with how people get noticed and earn money, lol get over yourself p.s. I used your hate of how youtube has been changing to become more popular lol bunch of dumb haters." He just shat on everyone, and nobody seems remotely bothered.

I will at minimum ignore anything from him on any medium, as I would advise everyone else do as well. I am ashamed Markiplier and Jacksepticeye are perfectly content to sit by and do a stream with him after how he has negatively impacted the YouTube community, as I had until this point considered them good respectable YouTubers. They weren't content creators like hard-working animators and genuine comedians are, but they were until now at least proving they cared about respecting people.

If this all turns out to be a double-troll where he then deletes his account anyway he is still a complete ass, but either way he has thoroughly proven he does not care about YouTube's content creators or its users and the fact people are just eating up his lie, is mind-boggling and gives hope to sociopathic liars everywhere.
 

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I was never a fan of PewDiewPie, but his Dark Souls videos did make me laugh. "Surprise, mutha-fuckah!"
I AM NOT a fan of PewDiewPie, but his Dark Souls videos did make me laugh. "Surprise, mutha-fuckah!" I knew he wasn't deleting his channel; why would he?!?
Gabriel Morton(Of Lets Drown Out fame with Yahtzee) did one better on a KeepetClassy play through of Dark Souls 3: Ashes of Ariendel DLC. Where he kicked an enemy off a ledge to it's death, looked down after it and stated smugly: "Get fucked!"
 

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Epyc Wynn said:
Okay, let's assume he really was going to delete his channel and was 100% serious about it (it's not like whenever he made the claim in his videos he spoke in an obviously sarcastic tone and never really stated he was going to remove his channel as a protest but whatever). Would this be logical: "I'm the biggest channel on Youtube, pretty much a household name to anyone who uses the platform, and can launch entire careers by simply promoting other content creators. There's a serious issue with how Youtube is handling itself right now, putting people's livelihoods at risk and preventing smaller channels from gaining an audience. I'm going to use my reach and influence to talk about the problems in depth to spread awareness and possibly push youtube to do something about it. Except I'm going to delete my channel and all videos in which I talk about the issue less than a week later, making all of it pointless because... protest?"
 

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Yeah, saw that one coming way before the video ended. As if he was seriously going to delete his youtube account. Anyway, when watching PewDiePie I find it hard to bear him any ill will but I also find it hard to keep listening. His style and humour and everything are just plain annoying to me. He is like an overenthousiastic loud child. Somewhat endearing but also very annoying.
 

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Okay so news outlets are reporting it as the greatest YouTube prank of all time...how? How is it a prank in ANY WAY?! Pewds was all "I'm gonna leave" And everyone was like "k" and he's like "ZAA! Gottcha! Its just a prank bro!"

Like where's the prank? The joke? There was no practical joke and it wasn't mischievous. He just kinda' lied for a week. And then nothing.
 

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bartholen said:
Epyc Wynn said:
Okay, let's assume he really was going to delete his channel and was 100% serious about it (it's not like whenever he made the claim in his videos he spoke in an obviously sarcastic tone and never really stated he was going to remove his channel as a protest but whatever). Would this be logical: "I'm the biggest channel on Youtube, pretty much a household name to anyone who uses the platform, and can launch entire careers by simply promoting other content creators. There's a serious issue with how Youtube is handling itself right now, putting people's livelihoods at risk and preventing smaller channels from gaining an audience. I'm going to use my reach and influence to talk about the problems in depth to spread awareness and possibly push youtube to do something about it. Except I'm going to delete my channel and all videos in which I talk about the issue less than a week later, making all of it pointless because... protest?"
If PewDiePie cared about a serious issue and said he was going to do something for the better against that issue, he should have followed through. Because he made it one big lie, now people know PewDiePie does not actually care about the serious issue. He has treated the issues with YouTube as a joke, and the influence he said he was going to use against YouTube aka deleting his channel, he has revealed was a lie. His sarcasm was not fucking obvious. He sometimes was sarcastic in the video, but other times acted incredibly sincere about what he was saying. He lied about planning to do something that would indeed mobilize people against the abhorrent changes YouTube has been making, and that makes him not only a lying scumbag, but also he has influenced people in a way where they will now view the issues with YouTube as a joke nobody should fight seriously.
 

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Silentpony said:
Okay so news outlets are reporting it as the greatest YouTube prank of all time...how? How is it a prank in ANY WAY?! Pewds was all "I'm gonna leave" And everyone was like "k" and he's like "ZAA! Gottcha! Its just a prank bro!"

Like where's the prank? The joke? There was no practical joke and it wasn't mischievous. He just kinda' lied for a week. And then nothing.
You haven't seen prank channels have you? The dumbest shit ever is considered pranks. Not jackass like stuff, but "beat a girl at RPS and kiss her if you win, while she's at the beach with her family". That's a prank to people.
 

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Wait? Are still angry and focusing their anger on Pewdiepie? Why? Why waste your time with him? The hate was so 2014.
 

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Silentpony said:
Like where's the prank? The joke? There was no practical joke and it wasn't mischievous. He just kinda' lied for a week. And then nothing.
You haven't been following this have you? He didn't lie. He made good on his promise: he deleted his channel. It's just that he never specified which channel he was going to delete, considering he had (at least) 3: Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye2 (which he made as a joke in the first place) and Pewdie. And while what can be construed as a "joke" is massively open to interpretation, one criteria I often see is a subversion of expectations. In this case everyone expected him to be some sort of martyr and delete his immensely successful main channel, despite him never saying exactly that. And him having enough self awareness to see the media going crazy about the supposed deletion of his main channel and then pulling the rug from under their feet is certainly part of the joke.
 

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RaikuFA said:
Silentpony said:
Okay so news outlets are reporting it as the greatest YouTube prank of all time...how? How is it a prank in ANY WAY?! Pewds was all "I'm gonna leave" And everyone was like "k" and he's like "ZAA! Gottcha! Its just a prank bro!"

Like where's the prank? The joke? There was no practical joke and it wasn't mischievous. He just kinda' lied for a week. And then nothing.
You haven't seen prank channels have you? The dumbest shit ever is considered pranks. Not jackass like stuff, but "beat a girl at RPS and kiss her if you win, while she's at the beach with her family". That's a prank to people.
Prank channels are cancer. And as much as i don't like Pewds, he was never a prank channel. When did that change over?
 

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bartholen said:
Silentpony said:
Like where's the prank? The joke? There was no practical joke and it wasn't mischievous. He just kinda' lied for a week. And then nothing.
You haven't been following this have you? He didn't lie. He made good on his promise: he deleted his channel. It's just that he never specified which channel he was going to delete, considering he had (at least) 3: Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye2 (which he made as a joke in the first place) and Pewdie. And while what can be construed as a "joke" is massively open to interpretation, one criteria I often see is a subversion of expectations. In this case everyone expected him to be some sort of martyr and delete his immensely successful main channel, despite him never saying exactly that. And him having enough self awareness to see the media going crazy about the supposed deletion of his main channel and then pulling the rug from under their feet is certainly part of the joke.
Why are you turning this into an argument of semantics? Are you trying to make yourself sound intelligent whilst belittling the extent of his wrongdoing? Yes, technically speaking, openly deceiving people into believing something that is not true, is not lying. If a politician deceived their followers into believing something that was not true, while not technically lying, would that be just a joke? No, it wouldn't. PewDiePie being a highly influential figure akin to how a politician is highly influential, deceived people into believing he was fighting a cause against what YouTube was wrongfully doing which it was indeed wrongful in doing. In fact, he has not fought for this cause, but instead made it into a complete joke and made people doubt its legitimacy.

The leak for Rayman being in Super Smash Bros, was a funny form of deceit which is perfectly acceptable. Deceiving large masses of people who legitimately care about something which affects content creators and people's livelihoods, for the sole purpose of gaining popularity and going "ha ha you guys and the news thought I meant my main channel" isn't clever or funny, it's just being a deceitful asshole nobody should trust.
 

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Epyc Wynn said:
calm down dude!
Honestly, I think you're taking this way too seriously. Everyone who follows Pewdiepie, or even knows his style, knew to expect something like this. He's a prankster and constantly mocks serious issues on youtube. He mercilessly mocked the "roast yourself challenge" earlier this year. He made a big deal of making a second channel, which turned out to be just reposts of old Jacksepticeye videos. He went out and sold his golden play button for 5 pounds on the street for god's sakes! For him to suddenly act all high and mighty and make himself some noble martyr would have been completely out of character for him.

And really, how would him deleting his channel really helped anyone? Among the top 20 most subscribed channels (if this list is to be believed ---> https://vidstatsx.com/youtube-top-100-most-subscribed-channels), he's the only one who's even touched on the issue. I haven't exactly seen Smosh or RihannaVEVO talk about it. Being the most subscribed youtuber he has at least some degree of leverage, or at least influence, on youtube itself. By staying on and making more vlogs he's raising awareness and helping to improve the system along with people like H3H3 and Boogie2988, who also speak on the issue. I'll much rather have him as the #1 channel instead of a corporate channel like VEVO or some jump cut spamming fucking hack vlogger. When you look at the content of those creators, it's the most insipid fluff imaginable: vlogs, gaming, vlogs, gaming, music videos, vlogs, gaming etc. I'm not for one second claiming Pewds to be some highbrow art channel, but at least he tries to talk about issues with youtube. If your platform's most successful entertainer is showing discontent at your system, it kind of lends gravitas to the issue. Him making videos about it tends to be listened to a bit more than Generivlogger#21987 with 4,000 subs trying to raise awareness.

If this was about his channel getting deleted by youtube, it'd be a whole different story. If he'd really deleted his 50+ mil subscriber channel himself and quit youtube, he'd just look like a total drama queen throwing a tantrum. I certainly respect a man working in a flawed system and trying to improve it more than some whiny baby who quits the second some problem arises. Lastly, I don't think he needs, or wants, to do anything to try to gain popularity at this point. He's the most subscribed youtuber of all time, his legacy on the internet is already made, and he's set for life. He just recently said he could take 4 digits off his paycheck and he'd still be doing youtube videos. Hell, just his newest video demonstrates this in spades:

 

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I'm kinda sad he didn't delete his channel. The only difference between him and the millions of people who play games is that he films himself and somehow that makes him a ton of money.
 

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I'm kinda sad he didn't delete his channel. The only difference between him and the millions of people who play games is that he films himself and somehow that makes him a ton of money.
Well, in fairness - anybody can film themselves playing video games. And many do - I am, indeed, right now watching a video of a recorded play session that is not by PewDiePie[footnote]for the record, it's by the Loading Ready Run crew. More specifically Alex and Kathleen playing Alone in the Dark.[/footnote]. Yet the fact that he has a big audience suggests that, unsurprisingly, he appeals to a lot of people.

In the end, you can apply your own argument to EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. who is popular in ANY. SINGLE. WAY. That football player? Totally the same as any other person who plays football, aside from the fact his games are televised which somehow makes him a lot of money. That actress? It's the same as any other girl, yet, somehow showing up in front of camera entitles her to a larger paycheck.

I really can't understand this dismissal of only very specific types of popularity. It's so arbitrary it's almost as if people aren't being rational but just cherry-picking what to complain about.
 

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This was a thing?

Eh, I don't think anyone would reasonably expect him to delete his actual channel. He makes tons of money from it. Intentionally deleting one of the biggest and most successful channels out there is just plain stupid.

As for Pewdiepie himself, I don't really care about him or his content. I've seen a video or two and while it wasn't as bad as I had feared, it wasn't really entertaining. But I just don't find the idea of watching anyone play a game interesting, so take that as you will.
 

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So he trolled every Clickbait site and everyone who calls him cancer (despite the fact that their own videos are considerably shittier, if they even have videos). Good for him.
 

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DoPo said:
Xan Krieger said:
I'm kinda sad he didn't delete his channel. The only difference between him and the millions of people who play games is that he films himself and somehow that makes him a ton of money.
Well, in fairness - anybody can film themselves playing video games. And many do - I am, indeed, right now watching a video of a recorded play session that is not by PewDiePie[footnote]for the record, it's by the Loading Ready Run crew. More specifically Alex and Kathleen playing Alone in the Dark.[/footnote]. Yet the fact that he has a big audience suggests that, unsurprisingly, he appeals to a lot of people.

In the end, you can apply your own argument to EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. who is popular in ANY. SINGLE. WAY. That football player? Totally the same as any other person who plays football, aside from the fact his games are televised which somehow makes him a lot of money. That actress? It's the same as any other girl, yet, somehow showing up in front of camera entitles her to a larger paycheck.

I really can't understand this dismissal of only very specific types of popularity. It's so arbitrary it's almost as if people aren't being rational but just cherry-picking what to complain about.
No there is a difference. Only the best make it to the NFL, only the best make it big in Hollywood. Playing football is hard, a lot of people can't do it. As much as I hate sports even I know how hard it is to make it into the big leagues (a guy who graduated I think a year before me from high school plays for the Seattle Seahawks). For people who act there's a big difference between say Brad Pitt and the people I see in the usual silly horror movies I watch.
 

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Running the risk of poking a hornets nest.... Why does he call Lilly Singh cancer?

I've only seen like, 1 of her videos, but she seemed to be an actual content creator....
 

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bartholen said:
If he'd really deleted his 50+ mil subscriber channel himself and quit youtube, he'd just look like a total drama queen throwing a tantrum.
Yes. So here's a thought -- maybe don't do a video in which you act like a total drama queen throwing tantrum and promise that YOU ARE GOING TO DELETE YOUR CHANNEL *in the first place.* Just a thought.

bartholen said:
I certainly respect a man working in a flawed system and trying to improve it more than some whiny baby who quits the second some problem arises.
Sure, I do too -- which is why he should have simply posted his later videos on the topic, which were intelligent, rational criticisms of YouTube policies and changes, and not started with a "Hey look at me!" video with stupid stunt, whining like a baby about how YouTube wants to take him down (LOL) because he's wait (WTF) and install someone else who is "cancerous" as the head honcho (I mean, give me a f---ing break...).

bartholen said:
Lastly, I don't think he needs, or wants, to do anything to try to gain popularity at this point. He's the most subscribed youtuber of all time, his legacy on the internet is already made, and he's set for life. He just recently said he could take 4 digits off his paycheck and he'd still be doing youtube videos. Hell, just his newest video demonstrates this in spades:

If he doesn't need popularity, then he should have pulled a bait-and-switch stunt in which he literally asked for more subscribers. Being set for life in the money department doesn't make you immune from acting like an attention-grabbing asshole, not does it apparently insulate you from having jaw-drapping insecurities and launching into ill-advised, self-obsessed fits.