So, Pirates are Playing Diablo 3

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

 

[Pandabearparade]

I doubt pirates are playing Diablo 3 free, at least not yet. Diablo 3 is designed to work a lot like an MMO, which means the data required to make it work without battle.net isn't on the disc. It isn't simply an issue of copy/pasting a crack.

 

[if_then_else]

Well, you can't just download the game via BitTorrent, crack it and play it, you need a server to connect to, because most of the information the game needs to run is server-side.

Hell, you don't even need to crack it, you just need to find a private server. Google "diablo 3 private server", the second link seems like a viable option.

The problem with private servers is that they don't work really well. I have experience playing on a WoW private server, a lot of the spells/talents don't work, forget about quests using phasing, and it crashes every couple of hours or so. I don't know if this is the case with Diablo III though.

 

[Pandabearparade]

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

Sorry, but you're wrong. The reason it's always online is -not- piracy, it's to add a layer of anti-hacking security, which is in turn necessary to make Blizzard money on the RMAH.

This is not a defense of that, by the way, I just want to see anger for the right reasons.

 

[distortedreality]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

It's both really. Publishers have always said that DRM is an attempt to block day one piracy - it's not designed to stop them for any longer than that.

As far as the separation of online and offline characters, the ability to have the same character for each and for it to be totally integrated was a big selling point of the game, and personally I welcome it.

Btw, pirates aren't playing the full game yet, although i'd assume it won't be too far off. Legal purchases of the game will be playing the game well before that happens though.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

Sorry, but you're wrong. The reason it's always online is -not- piracy, it's to add a layer of anti-hacking security, which is in turn necessary to make Blizzard money on the RMAH.

This is not a defense of that, by the way, I just want to see anger for the right reasons.

Wait, I think we sort of agree... Blizzard wants people to be unable to cheat and hack, as doing so would make their little auction house money grab useless.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Btw, pirates aren't playing the full game yet, although i'd assume it won't be too far off. Legal purchases of the game will be playing the game well before that happens though.

No, no. They are. I won't say what exactly, but it has to do with private servers and the Diablo 3 beta.

 

[Rumpsteak]

It was inevitable, I would like to see a source confirming that they are playing it right now though.

 

[Rastien]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

Online only was never about the DRM or piracy. It was keeping the game less susceptible to cheating and hacks.

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

The whole must be online thing didn't bother me as im always online anyway as most people are.

What pissed me off... is when the always online failed and fell over badly :/ thats my main gripe with it. If your gonna do it, at least do it right and don't fuck it up.

Aside from that i been loving the game itself a huge amount of fun =)

 

[Pandabearparade]

Wait, I think we sort of agree...

I just realized I quoted the wrong person. Sorry about that, we do agree. I fail at forum posting, sometimes.. and I'm just too damned lazy to fix it.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Wait, I think we sort of agree...

...yeah, I just realized I quoted the wrong person. Sorry about that, we do agree.

I was confused for a second, lol. Carry on, friend!

 

[Rawne1980]

Really blows me away that D3 has sold so well. You'd think all these people complaining would see poor sales >_> Are we really just gonna roll over every time this DRM issue comes up? Yeah, I'm sure with record pre-orders and massive sales, Blizzard (or anyone else) will never use DRM again -_- Nice message you're sending them, guys; "We hate DRM! But we will buy your stuff anyway."

Just felt the nid to pip in that I didn't pay for D3.

My wife plays WoW and she got a copy free with that year pass thingy. She doesn't want it so I get to play it.

And that is why i'm not complaining.

I can hardly whine about something that cost me nothing. My missus was going to be paying her wow sub anyway but this way it saved me forking out 40 squid for Diablo .... although I wasn't going to buy it.

 

[synobal]

I don't think the game has been cracked yet, I'll take a look around and see what I can find.

 

[krazykidd]

To be fair, if anyone thought it would stop the pirates then they have to be amazingly naive.

And yet here we are, once again seeing the honest consumer screwed.

Piracy has so much going for it--it's free, you bypass all DRM, it's free, you get all the on-disc DLC, it's free--so why is Blizzard giving their honest supporters, the people doing the right thing, more reasons to steal their product?

I'm against piracy (the artist deserves to be paid for their work and you don't get to steal something because you want it for free) but I'm finding it hard to hold it against anyone who would choose to steal D3. Yeah, they did the wrong thing, but how much is enough, ya know?

Really blows me away that D3 has sold so well. You'd think all these people complaining would see poor sales >_> Are we really just gonna roll over every time this DRM issue comes up? Yeah, I'm sure with record pre-orders and massive sales, Blizzard (or anyone else) will never use DRM again -_- Nice message you're sending them, guys; "We hate DRM! But we will buy your stuff anyway."

Isn't it legal to buy the game . Then download the cracked version? Not too keen on the legal stuff.

OT: big surprise , but the always online thing is forthe real money auction house , nothing more .

 

[Thatrocketeer]

Why are we in a situation where people who stole Diablo 3 are able to launch the game and just... play, while people who purchased the game have to wait for servers to be fixed to play single player?

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

From a rough search in google, I saw that the beta's the only one that's cracked. Whoop dee doo, they cracked a demo.

So, no. Pirates haven't cracked the game yet. I highly doubt that a freaking MMO would be cracked 2 DAYS after its release.

 

[synobal]

Okay so I just checked all my usual sites as far as I can tell the game is not cracked any where. The OP said it involved BETA files which is BS because the Beta used the same DRM as the current build does, IE everything is generated server side. Now perhaps if someone got a hold of the Alpha build, which sources say included some of the server code and didn't require a server running on a different machine.

But ya as of now I declare Diablo 3 "UNCRACKED" I could be wrong but I did do a pretty through search and could find not a single torrent claiming to be a crack that was anything more than a virus/grabage/something else.

 

[DasDestroyer]

WoW pirates still don't have a perfect server going as far as I know, and in WoW most of the information is handled by the client, while in D3 almost everything is handled server-side, so replicating a server would be even more difficult.

 

[Klaflefalumpf]

Steal the cracked game, play it.

Buy the game, don't get to play it.

That DRM sure did work >_>

That's what DRM is for, isn't it?

 

[PingoBlack]

If they are worried about cheating and hacks, make an online mods and an offline mode, where a character made in the later cannot be used in the former and vice-versa.

This has nothing to do with hacks and cheats and everything to do with money.

It has to do with hacks as it does with money. As I replied to you in the other thread, it really doesn't help you or anyone to oversimplify reality or distort facts to fit your purpose.

Offline mode for example, is not what you imagine it to be. If they made offline mode, they would have provided your "pals", the pirates, a complete 100% functioning server emulator.

Now tell us, honestly, how smart would that be?

Emulation takes much more work than those "pals" of yours are willing to put in. They won't bother setting up a coherent working game rules, just like WoW private servers, every character will be an un-killable god in Inferno mode.

Disclaimer: Term "pals" is used due to OP obviously promoting these activities.

 

[Rangarig]

Really blows me away that D3 has sold so well. You'd think all these people complaining would see poor sales >_> Are we really just gonna roll over every time this DRM issue comes up? Yeah, I'm sure with record pre-orders and massive sales, Blizzard (or anyone else) will never use DRM again -_- Nice message you're sending them, guys; "We hate DRM! But we will buy your stuff anyway."

Judging by the amount of Tyrael's Chargers I see when playing WoW, I think it is safe to say that the sales figures are slightly bloated simply by the number of people taking advantage of the WoW 1-year subscription discount, mount, and MoP Beta Access. I easily know a dozen people who would not own Diablo 3 otherwise.