xPrometheusx said:
[..]CoD. Approaching critical mass at... what, 8 games? And they haven't had any truly innovating gameplay since Modern Warfare 1.
I don't actually like call of duty but,
a) Nazi Zombies in 2008 (World at War)
b) Back to Vietnam (where we haven't been for ages) in 2010 (Black Ops)
c) into the future and playing as the underdog rather than a superpower fighting rebels/freedom fighters/terrorists who're under equipped in 2012 (Black Ops 2)
Admitedly this is all Treyarch, the off brand CoD, but it's still CoD.
I'm sure the multiplayer has been in some way innovative, are kill streaks and innovation? I honestly don't know, I don't play VS multiplayer in 'realistic' FPS games.
I can put Battlefield on that list too, after playing the over-hyped stupidly expensive entry into the series that is Battlefield 3.
I don't know much about Battlefield but I hear that BF3 is pretty amazing, and apparently the spin offs (Bad company) of the series are pretty "badass" and took a few steps in a new direction before Activision decided to try be "CoD but better". Again, I don't know about BF personally, it's all what I've heard.
Assassin's Creed can go up there,
Iteration does not preclude innovation. The movement system and environments in Assassin's creed are pretty unique to the series. Also, go play the first one, and then any of the others. Tell me there's no difference, I dare you.
I'm pretty sure Skyrim is a rather large change from Oblivion. I for one hated oblivion and loved Skyrim. From what I hear the "Radiant AI" in Skyrim is revolutionary. It could be marketing, I don't care honestly, but I like any system which allows me that much content with such a high quality of polish.
You trolling me? A game which goes from Isometric tactical combat to real time FPS? That sounds like a stagnant series full of iteration to me.
They're moving to a homogenous, co-op, cover based shooter. At least it's a shift from the original game. I didn't really like the series that much but the games aren't really all the same.
I'll just straight up give you that one. Each was a newer, better, bigger, shinier, version of the last. I don't think that's inherently bad, but you're right, the games since the first haven't really innovated. (Even though the first one is generally credited with the popularity of cover based shooting. A dubious honour some might say, but it did blaze a trail)
From top down, to 3D. From silly with a series of semi related stories in missions, to a compelling (according to personal taste) story and interesting (again, taste) characters. Nope, nothing new here. Completely the same game that GTA2 and that GTA4.
the list goes on. Some REALLY good examples are the EA sports games. All of 'em. Just lump them all into one big ball of subpar sequel mediocrity and throw it at the gamers after gluing on different colors of glitter.
Well Dragon Age 2 wasn't anything like Dragon Age: Origins, that's something.
I've grown tired of the endless parade of sequels. What happened to original content? Gone are the days where you could look to a bigger publisher for -god forbid- actual innovation. If there's any to be found, it's passed to smaller "indie" developers, because they're the only companies out there actually willing to take risks.
Well, while I don't totally agree with you, the sentiment is true, indies will take more risk. But that's the point. This isn't really all that new of an idea. People have been saying this for over a year.
Why should Activision publish the next groundbreaking equivalent of AC1, Bioshock 1 or Mirror's Edge when they know that their huge sheeple fanbase will buy the next installment of CoD just because it says CoD on the box? Baaa.
Use of the word sheeple aside. That's not their fault. It's the consumers, if you don't like it: vote with your wallet. Buy indie.
There's the flip side, of course. I can't go without addressing it. Two of the most anticipated games for me this year are Borderlands 2 and Darksiders 2 because the first entries into their respective series', in my opinion and in most of the fanbase's, honestly deserved a second game.
But Darksiders was God of War + Zelda. That's not exactly innovative. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game and I am looking forward to Darksiders 2, but I hardly think Darksiders 2 is going to be innovative. And Bordelands 2 won't be too much of a departure from Borderlands, if anything it's a refinement. Just like Assassin's Creed 2.
I'm looking forward to Bioshock Infinite as well, since the folks at Irrational Games and 2k really look like they're trying to reinvent the series. If you look between Bioshock 1-2 and Infinite, it's hard to tell they're even in the same series. THAT's what a sequel should be. Innovation or further exploration of a loved game. Not just another entry because people will buy it. Because we have these sequels that give something new to look forward to, then... well, I already addressed CoD.
Well you do realise that 2K get a stack of cash from making the best yearly basketball game there is don't you? That shit (which I like) that they sell to the 'sheeple' is what bankrolls Bioshock.
Also, Bioshock 2 was really, really, bad. It's not a very good example of the industry making bold moves.
What shocks me, though, is that I've never seen anyone else with this attitude anywhere on the internet, aside from all the disgruntled sheeple wondering why the $60 CoD 57 looked the same as the $60 CoD 56.
You don't get around much on the Internet do you? Here, Bioware Social Network, Destructiod, the Video game board on 4chan, and countless other places are home to this sentiment.
Some of us don't think it's as bad as you seem to, but there's a large portion of people who care about gaming as a media, and I'd say most of the one's who don't make money off of it feel the same way you do.
So, to the people reading this, is there anyone out there that can say they feel the same, that they're tired of the parade of sequels? Or am I just blowing steam?
If you ever have a question that boils down to "Am I the only one who...?" the answer is no. It is always no. You are
never the only one. Ever.
Also, love the Doritos ad for the spamcheck. Way to throw yet another piece of advertising into my face, Internet.
I haven't seen that one yet. I look forward to it.
If you'd like to avoid adverts you can join the publisher's club, it's pretty cheap and all the cool kids are doing it. You get other stuff too which I'm unaware of.