So The Ghostbusters Embargo was lifted and oh dear

[Something Amyss]

Yeah I'm aware of the toxic spewing that was being hosed around like the slime devices from Ghostbusters 2 about the trailers, just find it sad that people are hoping for something to be shit.

Funny you should mention Ghostbusters 2:

I'd like every movie to be awesome, because really what good is a bad movie. And not "so bad it's awesome because it's a delightful trainwreck we can have fun riffing", but the "this just sucks, no redeeming qualities" kind of bad....nobody wins with that kind of film.

I have trouble caring, TBH. Like, if it's a good movie, cool, but I mean, the Australian goat is right. The movie will be good or it will be bad, and we'll be off on to the next movie. It's not like I ever expected this to be a staple in my library or a true classic, though either could technically happen. I mean, there's the possibility that this is an amazing flick, or hits that weird sweet spot that has me rewatching Eurotrip and Super Troopers, but even that seems unlikely.

TBH, if the reviews were really bad I'd probably just not see it. Or even if they hadn't come up with a trailer better than the first, because GOD was that awful.

But I have trouble seeing a "bad" movie as a failure state. Like, the Transformers movies are boring to me. I'm a fan of the Transformers brand, but the success or failure of the next movie doesn't impact me. I expect it to be awful, I expect it to be successful, and if it is, it doesn't bother me. At the same time, I won't shed tears if it fails. I can't think of a single way it really impacts me.

I think this is part of the reason I was able to enjoy the TMNT movie from 2014. I mean, it's not a movie I'd buy, or watch regularly, but I had fun with it. I wasn't crying about my ruined childhood, because the 80s comics are still there. The 80s cartoon is still there. And the Nick cartoon, which is among the best, is still running. Also, Out of the Shadows demonstrates why fanservice can be a bad thing. A lot of that 80s cartoon was lame.

But if it's bad, it really doesn't hurt me. And if it's good, then, um...good. But there's so much anger, so much entitlement, so much "how dare they not think about me specifically, even though if they'd catered to their fanbase in the 80s I wouldn't have had that cartoon!" and it's just....baffling.

I'll still talk crap about The Phantom Menace and Attack of the clones, but it's not like they impact me. It's just possible to be critical without a huge emotional investment. And in fact, the panning of BVSDOJ seems to have shifted the tone of direction of future movies, so that's a good thing, right? There's another movie I'm definitely not going to buy, and I'd probably have forgotten about it except there were so many threads specifically on here about it. It's sort of like Zoe Quinn, in that I didn't know who she was until people started complaining about her, and now she's going to be permanently lodged in my consciousness. And just so anyone reading this is on the same wavelength as me, if you try and derail this into an argument about Quinn, I'm just going to ignore it. That's not the point here.

Glad to hear it's at least semi decent? Or at least some people are reporting it as such. Though I guess those reviews could potentially be just as biased the other way as the "it sucks 'cause women!" type of reviews. I've yet to see any reviews of it by the people that I normally watch for opinions on these kind of things before I spend my money on them. So we'll see in the coming weeks or whatever.

I doubt it's a counterpoint because there haven't really been negative reviews to react to. I mean, they could be atempting it pre-emptively, but that's additional speculation.

I'm curious as to what a larger body of critics says anyway. And I'm interested in what the folks I'm subbed to on YouTube will say, because I value most of their opinions more anyway.

 

[Casual Shinji]

What I'm saying is that no one should pretend to have an opinion when there's literally no basis other than hearsay from other people.

Well... there's the trailers; That which is supposed to make me want to see the movie. At which it did one heck of a piss poor job.

OT: It's funny that due to all the controversy we'd forgotten that this was ultimately just going to be another soulless 80's cashgrab anyway, like Robocop and Total Recall. Onwards to Back to the Future, I guess.

I almost feel sorry for all those youtube channels who now can't make anymore negative speculation videos.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

I think the Need For Speed movie is pretty good. I even like the Doom movie. Maybe I have low standards, who cares. The point is I didn't go out of my way to find people with different opinions just so I could make them see that their opinion was wrong. Which is something I see a lot these days.

 

[Mangod]

I think the Need For Speed movie is pretty good. I even like the Doom movie. Maybe I have low standards, who cares. The point is I didn't go out of my way to find people with different opinions just so I could make them see that their opinion was wrong. Which is something I see a lot these days.

Also, REALLY PRO TIP FOR EVERYONE!!!: Don't base your judgement on critic reviews or your friends' opinions, don't base your judgements on what a popular person said, and definitely don't base it on fucking comparisons.

Go and see a movie, formulate your own PERSONAL OPINION, based on the movie's OWN MERITS.

After Batman V Superman came out, I got into so many arguments with people who had avoided seeing the movie, went with mass opinion, and/or pre judged it simply because Lex, Batman and Doomsday were different. If you're going to hate something, at least have some legitimate reasons to hate it.

Basically, the point is. Just because people seemingly dislike something does not mean they necessarily KNOW it's bad. And even if everyone thinks something is bad, it doesn't mean that you will too.

If you're gonna insist that reviewers shouldn't be listened to, then what's even the point of having them? We've got them now to advice people on wheter or not something's worth spending money and time on. If Ted the reviewer thinks a bunch of movies are bad, and I thought those movies were bad as well, and he thought Another bunch of movies were good, and I thought those movies were good, I'd trust Ted's opinion when he says that [this movie] is/isn't worth spending money on.

 

[Trunkage]

So... to sum up - everyone's got an axe to grind and thinks this movie will prove some sort of point? This is going to work out well...

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Its actually getting really good reviews, unless that's just Rotten Tomatoes cherry picking all the positive reviews and waiting to add the negative ones after the movie has released.

 

[sky14kemea]

I ain't afraid of no thread.