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beniki

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According to the Ancient Alien theorists, the Nazis had access to alien technology taken from a UFO that crashed on the borders of Germany, prompting Hitler to initiate all those weird and wonderful research programs, and apparently providing the creative spark for the V2 rockets, and then later on jet engines.

I'm not trolling, there are seriously people that believe this.

But from we actually know, the Nazis had the most advanced technology at the time, and remarkably held out against an alliance much, much bigger than it's own because of it. Something that people often forget is that Germany had the odds against it.
 

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renegade7 said:
Well I do know that Hitler was part Jewish,
Well, I see that you know something that the rest of the world doesn't...

The thing is, there was a law of purification ( not the real name ) in Germany where people had to prove that their four grandparents weren't Jewish, the thing with Hitler though, he didn't know who one of his grandfathers was. So there is the chance that he was partly Jewish, however claiming that he was is a far stretch.

The Nazi's invented and researched some pretty cool stuff ( also some pretty weird stuff ) in their time, you might want to research into this a little. Because of their atrocities people tend to forget about the good things they did. As already stated, America's missile program / NASA wouldn't be what it is today without the aid of German scientists.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Darren716 said:
The Nazi's had a system of Wünder weapons they were working on thigh ranged from the atomic bomb, V2 rockets, and even a plan to create zombies. Other interesting facts you should include are the 1932 Olympics and how the Jews were treated better and Hitler's hatred if a non Aryan won a a medal.
Edit: Iforgot to mention that under Hitler's plan to exterminate the mentally insane his own niece was one of the victims. Hitler was also so paranoid about assassination that his own personal train had two triple-A anti aircraft guns to defend against arial assault.
The Nazi wonder weapons, as a rule, were rubbish. Most of them could never work, and those that did tended to be less impressive than ordinary stuff. There were exceptions, like the Stg 44 assault rifle, though.

In regards to the Olympics, the US complained about German racism towards Jews, and the German reply tended to be along the lines of "We don't tell you how to treat your negroes, don't tell us how to treat our Jews".
I know the Nazis were horrifically evil dicks and all, but... burn.

Also, Hitler did not have one testicle. That is a myth.
 

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theparsonski said:
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Look up Josef Mengele - he's a cool dude. I think they don't reach him in class.
Oh, we covered him a bit, but I did some extra research, the guy was a genius! Who else would have considered attaching eyes to the back of your head to see what's behind you? Brilliant!
If I remember correctly, the only real scientific find that he did was that he found out how long a newborn baby can survive without food until they die.
 

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From what I have heard, if Hitler had not embarked on the campaign of genocide that he did, he would have been remembered as one of the greatest leaders in European History. I hear that Germany at that time was in a major economic downturn due to still feeling the scars of WWI, and Hitler was a driving force for revitalizing Germany. If this is true, it is a terrible shame he chose to do what he did.
As I understand it, all his successes were short-term, based on an immiment successful war and resources from Germany's neighbours.

EMFCRACKSHOT said:
The failure of operation citadel ( the battle of kursk, a major turning point in the war- to quote chrchill "if stalingrad was the end of the beggining then kursk was the beggining of the end) was in large part due to Hitler's order to delay the operation until june. A decision that could be said to have cost germany the eastern front.
Not quite, it might have hastened the defeat, but Germany couldn't defeat the USSR.

henritje said:
Hitler was a tactical idiot (see campaign towards Stalingrad Hitler planned to have it before the start of summer and only sent soldiers with summer uniforms)
I'm led to believe that's not actually true, that the Germans had cold weather equipment, but they couldn't get it to the troops on the frontline. The German war effort against the USSR was doomed because it was logistically impossible to get their resources where they needed them.

beniki said:
But from we actually know, the Nazis had the most advanced technology at the time, and remarkably held out against an alliance much, much bigger than it's own because of it. Something that people often forget is that Germany had the odds against it.
They had some advanced technology, yes, but in popular culture a lot of that is due to absurd ideas they looked into that would never have actually worked. Also, their ideology meant certain avenues of research couldn't be looked into...being sure you are the master race makes for problems with medical research.

They certainly had the odds against them, though. The German invasion of the UK couldn't actually ever happen (Operation Overlord was basically Sea Lion in reverse, and look what was needed for that), so they didn't try that. The German invasion of the USSR couldn't ever actually succeed, but they gave it a go. It didn't help that they continually underestimated the number of Soviet troops, the German commanders were certain that the next big battle would destroy the Soviets and that caused all sorts of problems for their planning.
 

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From what I've heard, Adolf Hitler was into painting. He wasn't very successful when he tried to make it into a career however.
That's actually true. Here's a video with some of his paintings:
 

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The Nazis generally promoted a Healthy lifestyle they promoted anti smoking and generally promoted looking after themselves. Another interesting fact Hitler did not snub Owens. He may have also had and a affair with his Neice Geli Raubal. The idea that the Nazis were organised was false Hitler was quite lazy and woke up late and spent most of his time watching films. Hitler also tried to promote Germanic Paganism members of the SS who were to be married took up this pagan ritual. Ernish Rohm one of his right hand men was a homosexual.

An important fact is the Hitler Myth

The Hitler myth was a personality cult (a personality cult is when an individual uses propaganda to create an idealized and heroic public image.) Goebbels claims that the Hitler myth was ?greatest achievement? as it made Hitler appear to be a demigod when in fact he was not. In 1934 the cult was so strong even Hitler began to believe in it.

Points on the The Hitler myth

Hitler Myth

-Hitler was tough uncompromising and ruthless in defeating internal and external threats to his nation.
-He worked continuously even through the night.
-He was a political genius who had thrown of the humiliating shackles of the Treaty Of Versailles and had pulled Germany out of the Great Depression.
-He was strong dynamic and forceful, in contrast to the weak Weimar years.
-Lived a simple life sacrificing personal happiness for the good of his planet.
-Was a guardian of morality and Justice.
-Was a man of peace and a states man and a man of true justice.

Hitler Reality

-Hitler was surrounded by officials who competed with each other to gain the Furhers attention. Hitler would then go to his ministers and officials to get the job done. Hitler spent little time in decision making and even more so in matters of administration.
-Far form working hard Hitler spent most of his time watching films until late and got up at mid-day to eat.
-Even though he was ruthless towards Socialism and Communism he was not decisive. Even when he ordered the night of the long knives he was hesitant and tried to get Rohm on his side even though he was against Nazi ideals.

Source: my notes on Nazi History Message me if you want more

Oh and Id recommend this if you want a light understanding of the rise of the Nazi regime
Hitler the Rise Of Evil an amusing tv series on the Nazis
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCECD0143AE68B326&feature=plcp
 

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-Hitler was a vegitarian who would tell gruesome stories at parties, partially for fun, and partially to horrify people into stopping eating meat.
-He was anti-vivisectionist, which at least one Nazi doctor performed on unwilling participants.
-Himmler was the main orchistrator behind the Holocaust, with Hitler's role remaining subtle and vague, I assume that this was for some effort of plausable deniability on Hitler's part.

You also might want to look into the experiments performed by Milgram [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment] in understanding how so many seemingly ordinary people committed such heinous acts.
 

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thaluikhain said:
They certainly had the odds against them, though. The German invasion of the UK couldn't actually ever happen (Operation Overlord was basically Sea Lion in reverse, and look what was needed for that), so they didn't try that.
I think comparing Sealion to Overlord understates the geographical difficulties that the Germans would have faced that the Allies didn't when invading France. Simply put, look at a map of the Sussex and Kent coast.

Now, rule out landing beaches that are urbanised - too easy to defend, most have sea walls (a barrier to mechanised troops, including tanks and artillery), and the calais raid demonstrates the foolhardiness of such a plan. An attack on the beach at Brighton or Eastbourne or Dover would have been suicide.

Now rule out the marshlands. Similar reasons of impassibility of mechanised vehicles.

Now rule out cliffs. Because they're flipping cliffs.

End result is there is only about five miles maximum of usuable, practical, landing beaches
 

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Hitler had a Jewish doctor that helped out his family for free when he was young (coming from a really poor family), so he kept that guy protected away from that whole Holocaust thing and called him "The Good Jew"
 

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Many companies famous now, worked for the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s. Besides the obvious Volkswagen; Hugo Boss designed SS uniforms and now is one of the foremost designers of expensive suits in the world. IBM made the punch card databases for Nazi computers to catalog why someone was being sent to a camp(Jewish, Gay, ect) and to what camp they were being sent. Siemens AG used concentration camp laborers to make their products, and manufactured important parts of the camps for the Nazis(Including the gas chambers used to perform mass executions.) All of the aforementioned companies are among the 500 richest in the world today.

Another contribution from the Nazis(in part) is the A-10 Warhog. Highest decorated pilot of all time, German ace Gunther Rall was brought to America after the war and asked to help US engineers design a close ground-support fighter for the USAF.

As an addendum, Hermann Goering was technically more highly decorated than Gunther Rall. But most military historians disregard this, because Hermann Goering(As head of the Luftwaffe) was fond of making up awards and then giving them to himself.

*not really about the Nazis but I found it interesting. A Canadian pilot known as the Falcon of Malta is the only allied pilot to outscore German pilots in any particular theater of war(The Mediterranean theater.)

Henry Ford, founder of Ford Automobile Company was an anti-Semite who wrote essays on the inferiority of Jews. He received medals and personal letters from Adolf Hitler. Hitler even mentions Ford in Mein Kampf.

Joseph Goebbels was originally a chicken farmer, which gave him many of the ideas on breeding 'lesser' people, as well as the idea for concentration camps.

Adolf Hitler's favorite boxer, Max Schmeling(German) was beaten by Max Baer(US.) Max Baer(who you may know as the villain from Cinderella Man,) wore a Star of David during the match in honor of his Jewish grandfather, and of the Jewish community as a whole.

Hitler's personal train was named Amerika.

In 1938, Hitler was Time magazine?s man of the year.

Hitler's original solution to the 'Jewish problem' was to move all the Jews to Madagascar.

During WW1 a British private named Henry Tandey caught Adolf Hitler completely offguard. Tandey however instead of capturing him or shooting him, let Hitler go. Hitler often used this story later to argue that he had a divine mandate for his actions, which is why his life was spared on that day.

The Wolfpack doctrine was developed by Karl Doenitz while he was in prison in a port city during WW1. He watched all the boats coming and going with supplies, noted its importance, and gathered as much information as he could about British and American shipping. After Hitlers death he took over the Nazi government, and immediately surrendered. He was taken to Nuremburg and found guilty of waging a war of aggression, and sinking 'non-military' allied supply ships.

It's estimated that nearly 2 million German women were raped by Red Army soldiers.

The Nazis were the first anti-smoking group in the world. Their scientists pioneered the research into the dangers of smoking.

The name of the Nazi party is National Socialist German Workers Party. Nazi however is not an abbreviation for that name in German. The term Nazi comes from the Bavarian word for 'simple minded,' and was first used by journalists to deride the party.

Rumors circulated even at the highest levels(Hitler's personal staff and cabinet) that Rudolf Hess was a homosexual. In 1941 Hess stole a plane, and flew it to the UK where he crashed and was arrested. He wanted to attempt to negotiate peace on behalf of both sides.

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EDIT: Actually, atrocities they commited before the war would be good, stuff like the extermination of disabled people in the mental hospitals etc.
The first group that the Nazi's came after as part of their euthanization/execution program was not the Jews, but the elderly. This plan was ended quickly because of the public outcry against it.

Hitler hated Slavs as much as he hated the Jews(if not more.) And they were the second largest group sent to concentration camps, and if he had conquered Russia, would have easily eclipsed the Jewish population in sheer number of deaths.

11 million died in the holocaust. Only 6 million of which were Jews. Slavs, homosexuals, Russian POWs, communists, gypsies, Jehovahs witnesses made up the bulk of the other 5 million.

While the striking image of Jews being sent to concentration camps is of their being dragged from their homes to trains, this is generally untrue of German Jews. Jews living in France, Romania, Norway and so forth fought against and tried to avoid capture. But a plurality of the German Jews went willingly on the trains, many viewed it as their patriotic duty to follow the orders of the Nazi state. They did not however know what really laid in store for them; only that they were being asked to move together into camps set up by the German state.

Near the end of the war, Hitler issued an order to round up the last Jews in Berlin. Thousands of nonviolent protestors showed up at the SS prison before the Jews were shipped, and demanded that they be released. The SS brought in tanks and machineguns and demanded that the protestors disperse or be fired on. The protestors refused to disperse and the crowed continued to grow over two or three days. Hitler ordered the Jewish prisoners be released, deeming it more important that Berlin appear as though it had no dissenters than to finish off Berlin's Jewish population.

Nazi scientists irradiated the testicles and ovaries of Jews and other unwanted groups, in order to see what would happen if they forcibly bred them afterwards as well as if they were still able to produce sperm and if the eggs survived.

A method of execution the Nazi's were fond of was to find a bridge at a river. They would tie or shackle couples together and then shoot one person, letting the dead weight of the person shot drag their spouse underwater to drown.
 

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One thing that made the national-socialist-party (aka Nazis) so popular with the german people during the time before the war were that they were set to make many luxuries more available and affordable to the general public.
Most famously cars (It's why VW - Volkswagen is called Volkswagen, it's a wagon (car) for the people), electronics such as Television and Radio (for obvious reasons) and vacations to foreign countries such as italy (as part of the "Kraft durch Freude" - Strength through Joy - program, wich was an initiative to offer various recreational activities to the general public in order to cast a positive light to the regime and to sneak the Nazi ideology into every part of everyday life)
 

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Jean Hag said:
They introduced the first laws against animal cruelty.
I heard that Himmler was a complete fanatic when it came to animal safety. He would even hang little bells from his boots when walking at night, so that small animals would here him coming and run away rather than risk getting trodden on by him.

Amazing how much compassion some of these mass murderers were capable of.
 

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The German science didn't want to follow Einstein's ("Jewish") theory of relativity, so they went another way. Into quantum physics. It was very effective, thus why their science was so succesful in developing rockets, jet fighters and more. For example, plans were made during the war to build the E-100 tank, which the specialists concluded was a machine that could match tanks from 1970s.

Also, contrary to popular belief, Nazis were Germans. Even though propaganda would have it that every single German opposed Hitler, you can't deny Nazis were Germans. Now, you can and should deny that Germans ARE Nazis, but, well, most of them were. Thus the war.

Another fun fact: every human, be it Jew, Pole or a Russian, take your pick, before being sent to death in the German Death Camps located in Poland, was stripped of every possession - clothes, valuables, FOOD. Every single of those commodities were either sent back to the Reich or used to feed/clothe people in concentration camps.

Another fun fact: Germany treated various occupied regions differently. While helping a Jew in France/Benelux was met with slap on the wrist, on occupied Polish territories helping a Jew resulted in the helper being killed. Immediately. Along with his closest family and everyone remotely tied to the helper. Poles helped them regardless.

Another fun fact: German war machines were in fact superior to those that Allied used. They have lost only because USA/USSR flooded them with their tanks/aircraft. For example, German heavy tank Tiger II, called the King, was virtually impenetrable for Allied guns. They had to pound him till the armour wore down and cracked - of course, losing many machines in the process. Panzerkampfwagon IV was vastly superior to T-34, despite what World of Tanks may indicate.

Yet another: when German forces liberated Ukraine from USSR, the populace greeted them happily with flowers and stuff like that. When one of the commander remarked to Hitler that Ukrainians could be a part of their effort, Hitler decided to use and then dispose of those "sub-humans".

Not done yet: when the war begun, France had bigger and better army than Germany. During Polish campaign (September '39), they could've easily disposed of the Nazi threat, along with their British allies. Furthermore, they have broken their mutual defense pacts they had with Poland. When France surrendered to Germany, German military (Wehrmacht) utilized French tanks to boost their military growth.

Hitler wasn't a German, as he was an Austrian by birth.

Last fun fact: Germany could've been easily defeated, had the Allies reacted quicker to the many violations of the pact of versailles. They chose not to, one of the British leader saying (about Czechoslovakia) that they [british] are buying peace for themselves at the cost of some distant country noone cares about anyway.

K, my job is done here *flies away*
 

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If the Allies had hit Germany's power supply, (which was quite undefended)the war would have been over a lot quicker....
Captcha: Get out. No, really it's true!
 

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You do know that they mark it by the mark scheme right?

They don't give a damn about your smart facts, they check list it with their mark schemes to see if you've included the main things you learnt in class and revision notes. (I'm assuming this is your 10 mark question)

Forget learning useless 'interesting' facts and focus on learning how to give the correct answers.
 

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Okay, to avoid the OP getting low marks, I shall repeat this:

Hitler was NOT, repeat NOT, a sodding vegetarian. This is a myth, and holds about as much water as claiming that Hitler was a 47 Norwegian Cyborg. The bugger didn't like plain meat, but did eat sausages, liver dumplings and a lot of fish.

Hugo Boss also didn't design the SS or Wehrmacht uniforms. He was one of many clothing manufactures who made them - though he wasn't a licensed manufacturer until the mid 1930's (for Nazi party uniforms. Later he ended up mass producing uniforms, using forced labour). He was a committed Nazi, but he didn't design the uniform
 

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Isn't there something about how most of what we know about the limitations of the human body, ie. what kind of temperatures, pressure, etc. it can withstand, was learned from the extermination camps?

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Ziame said:
Also, contrary to popular belief, Nazis were Germans. Even though propaganda would have it that every single German opposed Hitler, you can't deny Nazis were Germans. Now, you can and should deny that Germans ARE Nazis, but, well, most of them were. Thus the war.

Another fun fact: every human, be it Jew, Pole or a Russian, take your pick, before being sent to death in the German Death Camps located in Poland, was stripped of every possession - clothes, valuables, FOOD. Every single of those commodities were either sent back to the Reich or used to feed/clothe people in concentration camps.
First of all: Is that actually a popular belief, believing that no Germans were Nazis? I haven't heard it before. Is it a regional belief or something?

And for the second 'fun' fact: Is it a myth that they also removed gold teeth, glass eyes, etc.?
 

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Mycroft Holmes said:
Adolf Hitler's favorite boxer, Max Schmeling(German) was beaten by Max Baer(US.) Max Baer(who you may know as the villain from Cinderella Man,) wore a Star of David during the match in honor of his Jewish grandfather, and of the Jewish community as a whole.
Max Schmelling was also beaten by Joe Louis (the second time they fought), which was a very big deal at the time.

Ziame said:
Also, contrary to popular belief, Nazis were Germans. Even though propaganda would have it that every single German opposed Hitler, you can't deny Nazis were Germans. Now, you can and should deny that Germans ARE Nazis, but, well, most of them were. Thus the war.
Not true. Firstly, the majority of the German populace weren't members of the Nazi party.

Secondly, many, many people outside Germany supported the Nazis until they found themselves at war with them. You could argue that anti-semitism only really became unpopular because the Nazis lost the war, many people were very much in favour of removing the lesser races.