So the new Mass Effect Andromeda trailer was just released...

[Nick Cave]

Aaaaaand, it looks kinda weak...

Bioware is in a bit of a weird spot, right now. The Mass Effect 3 ending debacle which removed a lot of goodwill wasn't really recuperated with the lukewarm, albeit mostly positive reception of Dragon Age: I, which then got massively embarrased by The Witcher 3 which seemed to have soured the way people look back at DA: I now. Despite that, and despite lacking a decent advertising campaign, hype for Mass Effect seemed to have risen up again, but I've noticed a few tendencies and a similar mentality to the release of Fallout 4, so I'll make a (not very bold) prediction right now.

Mass Effect Andromeda will be recieved in the same way Fallout 4 was and is. Solid and positive reception at release, but after a few months people look back at it and go "yeeesh, wasn't really all that good, was it".

The similarities I've noticed is the same that an overall negative mentality concerning Bethesda type of gameplay had gotten a decent presence (in online communities, game still sold like hotcakes among normies), and people didn't really seem to want yer typical Bethesda game, or atleast appreciate it as much as Skyrim was before release. They had gotten tired of the awful combat, the boring writing, shit quests and crap RPG mechanics.

I see the exact same thing happening to Bioware games in general now. People lament the boring combat, awful animations, terrible fetchquests (when it comes to DA:I), rigid and unimaginative structure (count how many people who've said "please don't let it be an ancient evil" despite it being quite obviously the case) and, for the lack of a better word, "gimmicky" writing 8all the interesting bits are the characters, who you interact with in the exact same fucking way you've done for the past 20 years).

It's of course possible that I might be wrong, but this really looks like after the games release Bioware's reputation will be lowered substantially, and even opinions of their past games will be soured, since like with Bethesdam the people have gotten tired of the whole shebang and want new things.

 

[DrownedAmmet]

For a completely pre-rendered trailer, it got me about as excited as it could. So yeah, I'm rockin a half-boner now. It's Mass Effect, the story seems interesting, the villain looks pretty badass, and the characters look dope as fuck. They look like people I want to get to know better, kind of like when I first played Mass Effect 2 and after every mission I would run to Zaeed for a new war story, or run to Jack to see if she was ready to open up more about her crazy past yet

As for gameplay, I'm still holding my breath. I hope they don't go full Inquisition, but at least Mass Effect 3's combat was passable. If the gameplay is just average this is probably the game that will get me to buy a PS4 and finally join this console generation

 

[mad825]

I see that they're actually putting effort in making the token black guy more interesting...No offence Jacob lovers.

 

[meiam]

I'll stand up for Mass effect 2 and 3 combat (on insanity, it was pointless on lower difficulty), so I might actually pick up the game eventually just for that, which is fucking weird that the gameplay is what might get me to pick up a bioware game.

Also Jacob lovers, those exist? I'm fairly certain even bioware doesn't like Jacob considering if you date him in 2 he dumb you in 3, almost saying "why did you pick Jacob, pick someone else gal, you deserve it".

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

I'm past the point of pre-ordering based on a promise at this point. AAA publishers have let us down too many times, so I'm waiting until after release at a minimum before I jump in. I *loved* old BioWare, but no they are gone. The company and this game have had key people leaving and considering the terrible writing of ME3, the terrible game that was DA:I and the lacklustre DA2 before it, my head tells me to wait.

Knowing the planets are sandboxes with strongholds makes me think of DA:I combined with the "Ubisoft Game", neither of which appeal. DA:I further got SJWd to the hilt, so I'm also trepidatious about how much, if any social justice stuff may be in this one. Mass Effect excites me, but the names BioWare and EA frighten me.

 

[Diablo2000]

No offence Jacob lovers.

Don't worry about it, no such thing exists. No offense, unicorns.

Honestly, I am excited for it. Even if I know that it will most likely end up like Dragon Age Inquisition where I have a love and hate relationship with the game. And if I liked or not will highly dependent on my mood at the time, hopefully it will do enough things well where it won't be much of a issue.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

The premise is interesting, but the gameplay doesn't look like my thing. I'm the kind of person who enjoys generic third person cover shooting, and this game looks like Destiny with a different perspective.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

No offence Jacob lovers.

Not that I'm a fan of his, but it was a little...problematic that the only black love interest goes off and gets a woman pregnant while Shepards in lock up. That's a little...yeah...

Anyway the game looks milk toast bland. I can't imagine it starting the same fire Mass Effect did.

 

[Zhukov]

Looks alright to me.

Not giddy with anticipation, but I intend to buy it.

Not going to make prediction. Not inclined to crystal ball gazing.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

"I don't need an Army, I got a Krogan"

Oh my fucking goodness, I could not roll my eyes harder at that line.

I hate the protaginists I am forced to play as. This is not how I would role play My charcater.

Give me back my Paragon Male Commander Shepard please.

 

[pookie101]

im looking forward to it but i did raise an eyebrow about an AI

im pretty easily pleased and after the fixed ending to me3 that actually explained things i can say ive enjoyed all biowares rpgs so far for different reasons

here is hoping the mako 2.0 wont be like the mounts in dai.. absolutely pointless as you had to dismount every 10 seconds to pick a flower

 

[meiam]

"I don't need an Army, I got a Krogan"

Oh my fucking goodness, I could not roll my eyes harder at that line.

I hate the protaginists I am forced to play as. This is not how I would role play My charcater.

Give me back my Paragon Male Commander Shepard please.

I love how, since your in a new galaxy, whoever you said it to can only respond "Huh, what's a Krogan and why should I care?"

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

"I don't need an Army, I got a Krogan"

Oh my fucking goodness, I could not roll my eyes harder at that line.

I hate the protaginists I am forced to play as. This is not how I would role play My charcater.

Give me back my Paragon Male Commander Shepard please.

I love how, since your in a new galaxy, whoever you said it to can only respond "Huh, what's a Krogan and why should I care?"

I hope that was the joke. Like, "I don't need an Army, I got a Krogan", and the bad guy's like, "...wha? Are you menta---". And your Krogan buddy bursts through the wall and starts applying Excessive Violence to everything in the room, Hulk vs Loki style.

It'd be great.

EDIT: Like a "what the f**k is Namek!" moment at 7:10

 

[Dansen]

I'm interested in it, the combat looks to be stepping away from the boring cover systems of 2 and 3, thank god. It looks like a solid time waster but Ill wait for some reviews before buying.

I am tired of the ancient race/evil trope in Mass Effect. The reapers were boring and stupid because there wasn't anything to them just some stupid monolith of blandness. Why do you think we were always fighting their stooges instead of them? I would kinda like to see a smaller story, while Andromeda isn't bigger than ME3's scope, It still looks like same old future of humanity crap. Bioware tends to stick to a cookie cutter structure and only shake it up after a few games cast in the same mold, so I like others in this thread, expect that this game will be fairly similar to Inquisition. That doesn't bother me tho cause I thought inquisition was pretty fun despite its bloat.

 

[Terminal Blue]

Seems pretty legit to me.

Yeah, Bioware has a writing formula. They were using that formula back when everyone likes to pretend they were ushering in some kind of vanished golden age of RPG storytelling, because for the most part that formula works and because when they try to break that formula (Dragon Age 2) people generally hate it. I'm not going to hate on Bioware games for being samey.

Also, because some people like to watch the internet burn.

* Fallout 4 was pretty good, it's just that people had played New Vegas and forgotten how incredibly shit Fallout 3 was (as a sequel to Fallout 3, which it was, Fallout 4 was a masterful work of cosmic genius).

* Mass Effect 1 was narratively dull and the gameplay is narcoleptic.

* Mass Effect 3's ending was just a standard, perfectly serviceable video game ending which was actually pretty par for the course with the series' writing and totally didn't deserve the controversy it got.

* Dragon Age Origins is bloated, atrociously balanced and basically played like that deep roads DLC for Inquisition which noone liked because it was "too linear".

* If you're the kind of cave dweller who still thinks "SJWs" are a thing, maybe it's time to accept that these games are not for you. Don't worry though, CD projekt red will always love you.. and they've never included open worlds or fetch quests in any of their games..*

 

[Zhukov]

The reapers were boring and stupid because there wasn't anything to them just some stupid monolith of blandness. Why do you think we were always fighting their stooges instead of them?

Because combat gameplay between three relatively ordinary people on foot and a 400m tall death machine would be silly.

You're free to dislike the reapers as villains/plot devices but that's got nothing do with the fact that you spend most of the ME games shooting Geth/mercenaries/Cerberus/husks etc.

They tried to have a reaper fight in ME3 and it turned out kinda silly. Shepard dodge-rolling back and forth on a ledge to avoid lasers from a machine the size of an apartment building because apparently the civilization-destroying menace was too dumb to just sweep the ledge from side to side.

 

[Bilious Green_v1legacy]

Premise looks alright, but my god, those character models and animations look bad. My expectations for MEA are so low that if the thing runs I will be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Zhukov]

I'm not going to hate on Bioware games for being samey.

I will.

I like Bioware and I prefer their modern stuff to their old stuff. I had fifty times as much fun with ME3 as I did with KOTOR.

But god damn they really need to break away from that bloody formula of theirs. I think they could make much better games if they (or their bosses) had the spine to try something new.

So many of the tropes they insist on sticking to drag down the quality of their writing. For example, a lot of their characters end up lacking in agency because they can't do anything that prevents them from obediently tagging along after the protagonist. Also, said protagonist is always an infallible Mary Sue who is always right and beloved by all except the villain and/or designated idiot. (Granted, that is mitigated a little by the character creation aspect, so at least I'm playing my Mary Sue rather than somebody else's.)

 

[Wrex Brogan]

To be honest, while I'm most likely going to enjoy this game, I... kinda wish it wasn't a Mass Effect game? Like... I dunno, one of Mass Effects strongest points for me was the lore and the world building, setting up this big galactic community with all this politics and history and new, undiscovered locations and then... there's Andromeda.

A game set a hundred thousand light-years away from all that but still trying to talk it all up like it matters. It just... feels like it should've been a new intellectual property rather than 'Mass Effect but in another place', because that just smacks of them sticking more to the marketing weight of the ME brand name rather than actually trying to make another interesting game. Hell, they could've set Andromeda in the Milky Way Galaxy - maybe thousands of years in the future, or through the unexplored relays, or something.

I dunno. I just know I'm gonna be annoyed if any of the Krogan characters bellyache about the Genophage. Motherfuckers I cured that shit already, but fucking Bioware doesn't want to play that game and actually do cool and unique things with their lore! God dammit!