So trying to make a competitive team in Pokemon....

[Paragon Fury]

...made me realize I'm not very good at Pokemon, or training them.

And that I really miss the Battle Frontier.

AND that trying to build a team around the Pokemon that I like is really hard, since that lists includes...

Gardevoir
Swampert
Typhlosion
Jolteon
Sneasel
Toxicroak
Kingler
Steelix
Nidoking
Swellow
Greninja
Doublade
Haxorus
Gigalith
Serperior

Etc.

Just trying to narrow down the list is a pain.

 

[Aerosteam]

Which tier are you doing for?

Edit: How many of those pokemon you listed do you want in your team? And is it just the one team?

 

[Goliath100]

1) Single, Double or Triple?
2) Forget about the following Pokemon:
Kingler, Gigalith, Swellow, Sneasel, Doublade and Toxicroak.
You just can build a team around any of them.

Which tier are you doing for?

Competitive, not smogon. There is no tiers.

 

[Aerosteam]

Which tier are you doing for?

Competitive, not smogon. There is no tiers.

Those are interchangeable to some people. And you can use tiers outside of Smogon, no one says it's only restricted to it.

 

[Goliath100]

Those are interchangeable to some people. And you can use tiers outside of Smogon, no one says it's only restricted to it.

If tiers are so unimportant why is your first and only comment about it?

 

[Aerosteam]

Those are interchangeable to some people. And you can use tiers outside of Smogon, no one says it's only restricted to it.

If tiers are so unimportant why is your first and only comment about it?

If the OP does want to use tiers, then a team that doesn't follow them is useless to him, so it's best to get that information in before I make a suggestion.

 

[Goliath100]

If the OP does want to use tiers, then a team that doesn't follow them is useless to him, so it's best to get that information in before I make a suggestion.

He has Greninja on the list, which means uber, which means "I don't care about tiers."

 

[Aerosteam]

He has Greninja on the list, which means uber, which means "I don't care about tiers."

Say WHAT?! Okay, final destination, no held items, Delphox only. 1v1 quickscope match me, scrub. I'm filled to burst with Capri-Sun and Pringles - I ain't gonna waste it.

 

[Fractral]

My advice would be to pick a Mega you want on your team and go from there. The avaliable Megas from the pokemon you listed are Steelix, Gardevoir and Swampert, all of which are usable but none of which stand out AFAIK. Then again, my team has always been built around getting Mega Gengar sweeps, so I'm not the best person to ask.
If those are the only pokemon you're going to consider using, Gardevoir might be the best pick since it's the only fairy type there. There's no reason to use Doublade when you can use Aegislash (barring evilote, which is more useful on something else). Serperior, Sneasel, Kingler and Typhlosion are all low tier pokemon, and sneasel is NFE- weavile is useable though.
Jolteon is useful but you'll need to provide support or be prepared to lose it. Haxorus and Greninja are powerful, and Greninja makes a semi-decent lead if you need one (make sure you're running it's hidden ability). I'd personally use Dragonite over Haxorus for Multiscale, but it's up to you.
If you are playing online then make sure you're prepared to deal with people using Legendary teams, especially in ORAS. I've seen teams made up of Mega Rayquaza, Mega Groudon and (normal) Kyogre before, though fortuantely the people using them tend to be pretty bad.

Otherwise make sure you have a mix of types, something that can kill Fairies and Dragons, and pokemon that can use physical and special attacks. I'd also reccomend a defensive pokemon, but that depends on what rules you're playing in- they're less useful in 3v3 or doubles.

Just take everything I say with a grain of salt, since I've not been much into the competitive scene since XY.

 

[Goliath100]

...Serperior, Sneasel, Kingler and Typhlosion are all low tier pokemon,...

Ok, that's it. I need to burst the bubble: The smogon tiers are bullshit. Serperior is not lower tier. Typhlosion is not lower tier. Using the list from Team Builder. Kecleon is in a lower tier that Sneasel. Quagsire is in NU? Ambipom in RU? There is so much wrong. Maybe an more up to date list would be better, but still... the tiers would be wrong because it's just a singles list.

 

[Fractral]

...Serperior, Sneasel, Kingler and Typhlosion are all low tier pokemon,...

Ok, that's it. I need to burst the bubble: The smogon tiers are bullshit. Serperior is not lower tier. Typhlosion is not lower tier. Using the list from Team Builder. Kecleon is in a lower tier that Sneasel. Quagsire is in NU? Ambipom in RU? There is so much wrong. Maybe an more up to date list would be better, but still... the tiers would be wrong because it's just a singles list.

My wording was bad; what I'd probably better have said is that they're frankly not very good pokemon. I'm aware that Smogon tiers are not wholly accurate, since they're based off how often pokemon are used online which isn't representative of a pokemon's actual power. That said, barring it's speed Serperior's stats are rubbish (dual 75 attacking is pathetic); Typhlosion is a little better but outclassed by other pokemon that do the same thing, and likewise with Kingler. There is no reason to use Sneasel when Weavile exists.

Smogon tiering is far from perfect but it is a useful way to get a rough idea of a Pokemon's overall merit. People who get angry about their existence forget how useful they are to a beginner player.

 

[Objectable]

Hey, a guy won the last competition with pachirisu, so just use who you want!

 

[ChaoGuy2006]

I'll help with the one I've used.

Mega Swampert loves the rain thanks to swift swim. I assume you've already got one, but if not, try to get one with an Attack or Defense boosting nature (sacrificing Sp.Atk). Waterfall, Ice Punch, Earthquake, and Power-Up Punch works well. It's defenses are high enough to pull of the PUP once or twice against something to make it's other moves lethal. It'll need something to deal with Grass though, so have a decent Poison or Flying Pokemon to endure the hit on switch.
He works well with:
- Jolteon (100% accurate Thunder, it can even be used to set up Rain if you want),
- Toxicroak (If it has dry skin, it gets healing each turn. It also counters grass types for Swampert),
- Nidoking (again, deals with Grass types, but shares ground typing weaknesses. With Sheer Force and the special moves it can learn, this guy can turn into your special attacker. Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Sludge Wave/Focus Blast with an Assault Vest?).

It's not impossible to do an all water team, but if you find something that counters you, you'll go down HARD. Kingler does much the same things Swampert does, just not as well.

Other Pokemon recommended to work well with Swampert include
- Crobat (Defog to clear hazards, switch into grass type attacks aimed at Swampert, while Swampert switches into Ice/Elec attacks aimed at Crobat. Acrobatics with no item is a real shocker as well. Toxicroak has less HP, but more types of moves it can learn)
- Electrode (Faster set up of Rain Dance, can also do Screen and Taunt. Fill the remining slots with Thunder, Volt Switch, or Explosion. This thing can not take hits though. Jolteon is more powerful.)
- Tentacruel (Special Wall, gets regen from rain with Rain Dish ability. With Leftovers/Black Sludge as well, it'll heal 24% of HP!)

Other Recommendations:
- Pokemon with Hurricane (Noivern)
- Pokemon with Hydration + Rest Combo and high defensive stat (Goodra for example)
- Pokemon with Defog/Rapid Spin.
- Pokemon resistant to Grass
- Pokemon weak to Elec/Fire.
- Pokemon with Rain Dance + High Speed.
- Pokemon with Light Screen + High Speed/High Def.
- Pokemon with Wish (and even Baton Pass and a boosting move) to heal Swampert (Umbreon)
- Pokemon with Entry Hazard such as Stealth Rock or Spikes (Chesnaut, Steelix, Aggron) (If you use Rapid Spin, it wipes only your opponents hazards. If you use Defog, it removes all hazards but also your opponents Light Screen/Reflect. A ghost type to "protect" your own hazards from your foes rapid spin wouldn't hurt)
- Another Pokemon to Mega Evolve in-case your up against something that screws Swampert or Rain Dance strategy (Gardevoir or Steelix)

Swampert, Gardevoir/Steelix, Toxicroak, Jolteon, Swellow, Haxorus seems good IMO. Swellow isn't the best flying type, but it can do well against weakened foes. Haxorus is just a beast no matter the team it's used on.

When in doubt, pick your faves, and play them to their (and their allies) strengths.

Hey, a guy won the last competition with pachirisu, so just use who you want!

Made me so damn happy. Then again the rest of his team was good, and Pachi was acting as a sponge. The highlight was seeing it SURVIVE the hits it pulled toward it.

http://imgur.com/GZtl0eR

 

[Goliath100]

There is no reason to use Sneasel when Weavile exists.

...there's nothing stopping someone from using a team of... and Sneasel,

None of you got that Sneasel was mentioned as a bad pokemon in a higher tier than a good pokemon?

People who get angry about their existence forget how useful they are to a beginner player.

Or there is an ongoing problem with people mistaking them as the actual rules, instead of something that can be ignored.

Hey, a guy won the last competition with pachirisu, so just use who you want!

That was a common structure for Double teams actually. 3 Heavy hitters (The True G-Unit) a half Support (Talonflame) and 2 Support (Gothitelle and that useless squirrel).

 

[Fractral]

None of you got that Sneasel was mentioned as a bad pokemon in a higher tier than a good pokemon?

It's a stretch to call Keckleon 'good'. Regardless, if we missed your point perhaps you'd best make it clearer next time.

Or there is an ongoing problem with people mistaking them as the actual rules, instead of something that can be ignored.

...And? That's not going to be a problem for you, me, or anyone who has spent any time playing the games competitively. If a new player mistakenly believes that the Smogon rules are official competitive rules- something which they don't state anywhere- a single multiplayer battle in game would probably fix that. I fail to see how the possibility of someone, somewhere, getting the wrong idea for a brief period of time could lead to this hate for the Smogon tiering.

 

[vare]

So, with no knowledge about what you want to do with the team (I'm guessing it's mostly fooling around in the battle maison/some stuff with friends) I'm just gonna throw some ideas in there.
First step is usually to find pokés with offensive and defensive synergy, giving your team a core. One common core setup is using three pokés with fire, water and grass-typing respectively, since they have few shared weaknesses, and thus you can often switch in one poké to take the hit pretty well. Another common core is steel/dragon/fairy.

A pretty good start is hence swampert, typhlosion and serperior, especially if you got a typhlosion with flash fire an a contrary serperior. Second question, before adding more pokés is to ask how you want to play the pokémon you've chosen so far. Typhlosion is (almost) always played as a fast special sweeper, but how fast do you want it to be, and how hard do you want it to hit? Choice Scarf, Choice Specs or a life orb would would all be good choices, but they limit how you can play ty.

Swampert is usually played either defensively or as a physically offensive mega. If you go on the defense, do you want to have physically or special moves, or mixed? You can also easily throw on moves like toxic and stealth rocks for added effect.

Serperior is usually used as a special attacker (even though it's movepool is pretty much limited to leafstorm, dragon pulse and hidden power) or as a more defensive/utility poké with glare and dragon tail or with reflect and light screen. It do learn coil though, and you might be able to get a physical set going with leaf blade and aqua, dragon or iron tail or knock off, but it's less useful as a special set.

When you have sort of decided on (at least) the roles of the core, pick some pokés that expands your opportunities. Fire/water/grass cores have some issues dealing with dragons (can't switch in resisting the hit).

Gardevoir is great poké for combating dragons, especially of you go for a mega variety, but a specs one can also put a pretty good dent in them. It's sort of frail though, so that's a thing to keep in mind. Gardevoir syncs pretty well with swampert, which can tank all incoming steel and poison attacks, and most other physical moves. If you add gardevoir you also need someone to deal with ghost types. On your list, greninja is probably the best, with protean and dark pulse, but using greninja will give you another frail and fast special attacker. This means that teams with powerful specially defensive pokes (like blissey) will shut you down.

Alternatively you can add on a Sneasel (or better, its evolution ). It is frail and fast, but it is physical, and it will give you another way to deal with dragons and it can be generally annoying with knock off. It also won't add any weaknesses to the team, since all it's weaknesses are covered by another member.

For a final mon, you could always do with a poké that resists flying, since that's the only type not covered, and your final uncovered weakness. Both Gigalith and Doublade (or Aegislash) covers it and are both played as physically offensive and defensive pokés. Gigalith gives you access to another poké with stealth rock, stone edge and earthquake, while Doublade gives you a better way to deal with enemy fairies and with shadow sneak it even has priority

For good tips on movesets, and alternatives, take a look on smogon. They generally have good tips, although don't be afraid to change the sets around to fit your team better.

Also, get a battle simulator like showdown or pokemon online and play around with the team a bit and see if it works out, editomg the moves or evs a bit between the matches, or even replacing mons if they don't add enough value to the team. Don't put too much emphasis on winning though, if you use high tier pokemon, even just one, you are gonna end up meeting full teams of high tier pokemons. Rather look on things like if you can control the flow of the battle, force them into switching a lot or put them in the position of having to make risky moves often. Or just have a great amount of fun. That also works

 

[Mong0]

I would go with protean greninja, contrary serperior, and mega gardevoir in three mon battles.