So what do you guys think about that one scene in Burial at Sea Episode 2? *SPOILERS*

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JacksonDemolition

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In one scene...

Ok, so in one scene. Atlas tortures Elizabeth with transorbital labotomy. It was fucking cringeworthy. Before Atlas puts a hole through Elizabeth's pre-frontal cortex. She luckily gets herself out of it before any real damage is done. AND GUESS WHAT ATLAS DOES? He nearly does it to a fucking child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrX2ZDFu0eY (the scene).

So what is your opinion on this scene?
 

Zhukov

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Yeah, that shit was bad. In the good way.

I thought it was quite the awesome moment for Elizabeth too. She's all, "Yeah, so, this sociopath has a glorified nail resting against my brain casing by way my fucking eye socket and is one firm tap away from turning me into a vegetable. I shall respond by derisively laughing in his face."
 

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I enjoyed that scene. I mean it was horrifying and I sat gasping, but it was interesting and really showed what an evil fcker Fontaine is.

Can you imagine playing it in 3D :p?
 

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I love that when it goes south and his intimidation fails he gets fed up and brings in the child and repeats the same lines without giving a shit.

Really good writing too. The very concept that it'll erase everything that shit is.

Just one question, because I haven't played, doesn't Lizbeth know the little sisters can not be harmed? The adam in their veins make them physically in vulnerable the only way they die is if you grab the slug.
 

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I wouldn't say it was cringe-worthy, I thought the writing for that scene was fantastic.
And yeah, that scene was very worrying and kept me on the edge of my seat - the whole end of that DLC was fantastic.
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
Just one question, because I haven't played, doesn't Lizbeth know the little sisters can not be harmed? The adam in their veins make them physically in vulnerable the only way they die is if you grab the slug.
In Ep1 she professed not to know what a little sister was at all.

Her knowledge of Rapture was rather haphazard, given that she'd only been there for a couple of months and had spent a lot of that time holed up in a book store.

Besides, little sisters aren't technically invulnerable, they just regenerate crazy fast. So they still feel pain. There's an audio log in the first game where a doctor describes setting a little sister's broken arm. It had healing crooked, so they had to re-break it, but then it would heal again almost immediately, so they end up having to break it like seven times.
 

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Zhukov said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
Just one question, because I haven't played, doesn't Lizbeth know the little sisters can not be harmed? The adam in their veins make them physically in vulnerable the only way they die is if you grab the slug.
In Ep1 she professed not to know what a little sister was at all.

Her knowledge of Rapture was rather haphazard, given that she'd only been there for a couple of months and had spent a lot of that time holed up in a book store.

Besides, little sisters aren't technically invulnerable, they just regenerate crazy fast. So they still feel pain. There's an audio log in the first game where a doctor describes setting a little sister's broken arm. It had healing crooked, so they had to re-break it, but then it would heal again almost immediately, so they end up having to break it like seven times.
Which makes her Brazen-Bulling the little sister in Episode 1 now far more disturbing.

What happened to this little disney princess that was dancing on the boardwalk?
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
I love that when it goes south and his intimidation fails he gets fed up and brings in the child and repeats the same lines without giving a shit.

Really good writing too. The very concept that it'll erase everything that shit is.

Just one question, because I haven't played, doesn't Lizbeth know the little sisters can not be harmed? The adam in their veins make them physically in vulnerable the only way they die is if you grab the slug.
They can still feel pain.
 

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Gamer87 said:
I enjoyed that scene. I mean it was horrifying and I sat gasping, but it was interesting and really showed what an evil fcker Fontaine is.

Can you imagine playing it in 3D :p?
OCULUS RIFT ANYONE?
 

JacksonDemolition

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Zhukov said:
Yeah, that shit was bad. In the good way.

I thought it was quite the awesome moment for Elizabeth too. She's all, "Yeah, so, this sociopath has a glorified nail resting against my brain casing by way my fucking eye socket and is one firm tap away from turning me into a vegetable. I shall respond by derisively laughing in his face."
God, she's a fucking awesome character
 

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Probably succeeded in being one of the more uncomfortable scenes I've had in gaming. You hardly see anything in the manner of gore, but it still feels really grisly...
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
I love that when it goes south and his intimidation fails he gets fed up and brings in the child and repeats the same lines without giving a shit.

Really good writing too. The very concept that it'll erase everything that shit is.

Just one question, because I haven't played, doesn't Lizbeth know the little sisters can not be harmed? The adam in their veins make them physically in vulnerable the only way they die is if you grab the slug.
They can heal near-instantly, but a lot of people don't ever return to their former selves after they "heal" from brain surgery. If Atlas dug around in her prefrontal lobe, wouldn't any cells he killed just be replaced with new, completely blank ones due to the fact that ADAM is basically a fast-growing stem cell? I think it would have the same effect as it would on anyone else, healing factor or not. Also remember that they can still feel pain just fine.

I loved that scene. Regardless of the fact that I generally don't like long cutscenes (I think this one avoided that because it was both in first person and too damn good), I thought everything about it was pretty much perfectly executed. I don't know what exactly they did to the screen and audio when Atlas was digging around in there, but it succeeded in giving me that "nails on a chalkboard" feeling for about 2 or 3 full minutes. It's great that we really get to see his brutality here, given that he spent most of Bioshock 1 trying to be as sympathetic as possible, and I love how he breaks his accent when he gets angry. That moment when you really see Frank Fontaine show through actually terrified me.

Speaking of terrifying, did anyone else love the opening? Sure it was mostly scripted, but I really like the way it devolves from Elizabeth's fantasy into some of the best horror imagery I've seen from a video game in a long time.
 

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RiseUp said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
I love that when it goes south and his intimidation fails he gets fed up and brings in the child and repeats the same lines without giving a shit.

Really good writing too. The very concept that it'll erase everything that shit is.

Just one question, because I haven't played, doesn't Lizbeth know the little sisters can not be harmed? The adam in their veins make them physically in vulnerable the only way they die is if you grab the slug.
They can heal near-instantly, but a lot of people don't ever return to their former selves after they "heal" from brain surgery. If Atlas dug around in her prefrontal lobe, wouldn't any cells he killed just be replaced with new, completely blank ones due to the fact that ADAM is basically a fast-growing stem cell? I think it would have the same effect as it would on anyone else, healing factor or not. Also remember that they can still feel pain just fine.

I loved that scene. Regardless of the fact that I generally don't like long cutscenes (I think this one avoided that because it was both in first person and too damn good), I thought everything about it was pretty much perfectly executed. I don't know what exactly they did to the screen and audio when Atlas was digging around in there, but it succeeded in giving me that "nails on a chalkboard" feeling for about 2 or 3 full minutes. It's great that we really get to see his brutality here, given that he spent most of Bioshock 1 trying to be as sympathetic as possible, and I love how he breaks his accent when he gets angry. That moment when you really see Frank Fontaine show through actually terrified me.

Speaking of terrifying, did anyone else love the opening? Sure it was mostly scripted, but I really like the way it devolves from Elizabeth's fantasy into some of the best horror imagery I've seen from a video game in a long time.
The game was awesomely crafted. That goddamn opening was horrifying.

My Reaction:

"Oh look its Paris. Hey where you going Sally? Why is the sky darker? Why did the game go slow-mo when an ace card flew past me? Oh look the statue Elizabeth was in. Oh look a door. Why am I at the temp room. OMFG FUCK! IAMSOSORRYSALLYPLEZSTAHPILLSAVEYEW!"

That scene where like 10 Sally's are surrounding Elizabeth and burning in the vent was fucking horrified.
 

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First scene in a game that made me genuinely feel sick. I usually don't have problems with such scenes but this one was just..UGH. The eyeball stuff from Dead Space was a joke in comparison. Thinking that people really did this stuff to other people to "cure" them just makes it worse.

I didn't mind the burning Sally scene that much. Although I loved the rest of the beginning in Paris where I was basically expecting reality to "peel" away Silent Hill style any moment. The bird scene alone...it was so ridiculously over the top. Disney itself couldn't have put more cheese into it.