So what is Camping?
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Occasionally sitting in a choke point to score a few points is okay, but you can't camp too much, because people get really upset. I was playing on Terminal in Team Deathmatch, and one guy was camping behind the far counter looking at the on-ramp from the plane w/a scope on his gun, so he could see me. I knew where he was and pulled out my thermal sniper, and creepy just so, but as soon as my head poked out he shot me. That's an example of bad camping I feel, because even though I realized now I could have gone around...it was in a point where it was just unfair I felt.
Camping overall is difficult to pull off because of killcam, so you need to move...because only 1 claymore means you have 1 get out of fucking-up free card per-life.
I will admit when I play (I don't have a headset), I call camper WAY too much...but it makes you feel better about yourself, making them a cheap bastard rather than yourself being that bad. Thought guys who rush to the same point over and over to shit, even with a sniper, are the example of bad camping
Camping overall is difficult to pull off because of killcam, so you need to move...because only 1 claymore means you have 1 get out of fucking-up free card per-life.
I will admit when I play (I don't have a headset), I call camper WAY too much...but it makes you feel better about yourself, making them a cheap bastard rather than yourself being that bad. Thought guys who rush to the same point over and over to shit, even with a sniper, are the example of bad camping
i strongly advise bad company 2 if you hate camping that much. spotting and destructible cover makes camping a tough art to perform.
other than that, i see camping as a legitimate tactic. finding a busy point and hunting unsuspecting foes like a predator is fun.
if camper does not relocate and kills you again, thats means you are dumb. dont *****.
other than that, i see camping as a legitimate tactic. finding a busy point and hunting unsuspecting foes like a predator is fun.
if camper does not relocate and kills you again, thats means you are dumb. dont *****.
camping is a legit stratigey and the people who get piss and start calling you a camper are just mad that you killed them
Camping to me is staying in one place in a game, for far longer than is necessary.
To me there are two types of camping, bad and tolerable.
Bad camping is staying in a point where there is only one entrance to the area (for example a cave), and they watch that entrance and kill anything that attempts to get in.
Tolerable camping is staying in one area, either an exposed area or an area that has a good view over many areas of the battlefield, (for example a watchtower)
I also don't mind "camping" when you need to defend a point.
To me there are two types of camping, bad and tolerable.
Bad camping is staying in a point where there is only one entrance to the area (for example a cave), and they watch that entrance and kill anything that attempts to get in.
Tolerable camping is staying in one area, either an exposed area or an area that has a good view over many areas of the battlefield, (for example a watchtower)
I also don't mind "camping" when you need to defend a point.
Standard camping while annoying can be broken with enough patience. It's the players that Spawn camp (the ones stand purposely find the places where opponents spawn and stay there in wait killing you everytime you come back into the game) that gets on my tits.
Camping: To sit in a single spot until you die. Usually wielding a weapon that results in one or a low amount of shots to achieve a kill.
To me, it's good in a situation. If you're losing a battle, that worse members of a team "camp" back and let the better players attempt to win. Or, if it's a rush heavy enemy, force them to run into the brick wall. But if you're winning, the other team is scattered, there is usually no reason to do it.... besides to be a pain in the rump.
To me, it's good in a situation. If you're losing a battle, that worse members of a team "camp" back and let the better players attempt to win. Or, if it's a rush heavy enemy, force them to run into the brick wall. But if you're winning, the other team is scattered, there is usually no reason to do it.... besides to be a pain in the rump.
Camping is intentionally staying in one place with one or two entrances you watch at the same time. its considered bad because its not fair to the people trying to flush you out.
I believe camping is the process of erectin a tent w/ portable everyday items in a woodland area, or similar non-urban environment.
I joke, I joke...
It is a fairly cheap tactic. Although I think it depends. If you camp an area then I don't suppose it's too bad. Like say, MW2 underpass, when you run back and forth between where A and B are on domination, because it involves movement, and you have cover and can be sneaky. It's tactical. However, waiting at a door entrance is *****-like and generally means you're too lazy to actually play the game and just want points. I've also noticed it's campers that scream down mic's the most about "bullshit" when someone they've killed 4 times kills them. Also, just for the record, camping at say, flag A. Well that's not camping. I don't want you to steal the flag, so I kill you when you try to. Simple.
[small]Also, a little off topic, but on hardcore mode, the RPD goes through ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING. Concrete, steel, aeroplanes, the lot.[/small]
I joke, I joke...
It is a fairly cheap tactic. Although I think it depends. If you camp an area then I don't suppose it's too bad. Like say, MW2 underpass, when you run back and forth between where A and B are on domination, because it involves movement, and you have cover and can be sneaky. It's tactical. However, waiting at a door entrance is *****-like and generally means you're too lazy to actually play the game and just want points. I've also noticed it's campers that scream down mic's the most about "bullshit" when someone they've killed 4 times kills them. Also, just for the record, camping at say, flag A. Well that's not camping. I don't want you to steal the flag, so I kill you when you try to. Simple.
[small]Also, a little off topic, but on hardcore mode, the RPD goes through ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING. Concrete, steel, aeroplanes, the lot.[/small]
I see there are at least 3 kinds of camping
1. Camping do to circumstance - getting trapped in a room by the enemy, completly fair do to the fact that if I come out Im going to die
2. Camping in defence - protecting a highly contested position, depends on the situation and should only be used in game types such as Domination, Sabotage, Demolition, ect.
3. Camping to get kill - sitting in one spot just to get kills to either win the game or get your killstreaks, its unfair to those who are actually trying to play the game (enemy and teammates)
1. Camping do to circumstance - getting trapped in a room by the enemy, completly fair do to the fact that if I come out Im going to die
2. Camping in defence - protecting a highly contested position, depends on the situation and should only be used in game types such as Domination, Sabotage, Demolition, ect.
3. Camping to get kill - sitting in one spot just to get kills to either win the game or get your killstreaks, its unfair to those who are actually trying to play the game (enemy and teammates)
i think people who actually have a problem with snipers who "camp" is because how u feel when u actually get sniped for me its one of the worst ways to get killed cause im simply walking around and BAM dead, no chance no opportunity to defend, and that what makes pl hate snipers and campers theres almost no way to catch em if u didnt know they were there in the first place. Im not saying that sniping shouldnt be in games its fully a legit strategy its just that it drives me nuts when i havent even done anything yet and POW DEAD, no shut up ur DEAD deal with it.
So if we conclude the previous statements, many people regard camping not being fair play.
The question that comes to my mind - why would any one want to play fair? We're in War, so anything goes - your average fps isn't a game Fighting Game, where finesse matters, but a game where *winning* matters. Laying ambushes, defending chokepoints - thats decreasing the enemies chances to score - but so does running around with a gun instead of just knifing, because you want to give your oponent a bigger chance. Why, of course staying within the rules (so no glitches, spawnkills, hacks) should anyone in a blody warzone be bound by the rules of gentlemanly fairplay, only walking, only fighting enemies up front, taking turns in shooting?
The question that comes to my mind - why would any one want to play fair? We're in War, so anything goes - your average fps isn't a game Fighting Game, where finesse matters, but a game where *winning* matters. Laying ambushes, defending chokepoints - thats decreasing the enemies chances to score - but so does running around with a gun instead of just knifing, because you want to give your oponent a bigger chance. Why, of course staying within the rules (so no glitches, spawnkills, hacks) should anyone in a blody warzone be bound by the rules of gentlemanly fairplay, only walking, only fighting enemies up front, taking turns in shooting?
Traditionally (i.e. when the phrase was coined) it referred to a practice of collecting a powerful weapon and hinding in a room with health and only one entrance. This worked primarily because early FPS games did not balance weapons with multi-player in mind and few even shipped with maps created for the purpose of adversarial play. In Quake (when I first heard the term) it generally referred to a person who collected a rocket launcher and sat around in a side room blasting people who came through. Considering it only took two rockets (at best) to kill somebody it made them fantastically hard to dig out.
These days, camping as it was traditionally known does not really exist. Better maps were the primary thing that did away with it, along with weapon balances for multiplayer. Thus, the meaning of the term has shifted but it is often misused.
In modern online games, a camper is a person who maintains a more or less static position in a location incredibly hard to attack. More specifically, this person must occupy space that need not reasonbly be held to complete game objectives. Since many modern games are objective based, it often comes down to the objectives themselves in making a determination of camping.
Snipers are the most common culprit, because by their very nature in most games they simply serve to harras the enemy while rarely furthering the teams goals. In a game where killcount alone is the deciding factor, camping is all but impossible to accomplish.
The most common misusage is confusing a defender with a camper. Objective based games require someone to defend an objective once it is siezed, and if one directs themselves to doing such even if entirely static in a difficult to assail position they do not qualify as camper but rather defender.
The distinction may seem a bit strage but it boils down to purpose and intention. The purpose of a camper is to grief, other concerns are secondary. The purpose of a defender is to maintain control of an objective - that grief may arise from a staunch defense is unintentional.
These days, camping as it was traditionally known does not really exist. Better maps were the primary thing that did away with it, along with weapon balances for multiplayer. Thus, the meaning of the term has shifted but it is often misused.
In modern online games, a camper is a person who maintains a more or less static position in a location incredibly hard to attack. More specifically, this person must occupy space that need not reasonbly be held to complete game objectives. Since many modern games are objective based, it often comes down to the objectives themselves in making a determination of camping.
Snipers are the most common culprit, because by their very nature in most games they simply serve to harras the enemy while rarely furthering the teams goals. In a game where killcount alone is the deciding factor, camping is all but impossible to accomplish.
The most common misusage is confusing a defender with a camper. Objective based games require someone to defend an objective once it is siezed, and if one directs themselves to doing such even if entirely static in a difficult to assail position they do not qualify as camper but rather defender.
The distinction may seem a bit strage but it boils down to purpose and intention. The purpose of a camper is to grief, other concerns are secondary. The purpose of a defender is to maintain control of an objective - that grief may arise from a staunch defense is unintentional.
Agreed. The Great Book Of Gaming lists only two rules about what is camping:WanderFreak said:
1) Thou shalt not sit in thine enemy's spawn to farm kills, lest thou be subjected to The Great Boot Of Kicking, and
2) Thou shalt not sit in a choke-point, doing nothing but waiting for thine enemy to show up, for this is an offense against thy team. By sitting in one spot, thou hast become a burden to thine team, rather than an asset: and as such, thou is also worthy of the Boot's attention.
A perfect example of this is the TF2 map, 2Fort. Anyone who has played it for more than a day shall emerge with terrible tales of snipers being dead weight to their team, under the pretense of attacking the enemy snipers.
Well if you absolutaly have to defend yourself because your in a jam then no thats not camping.
If you are a sniper and your hiding in the grass taking out targets, yes thats camping but a different kind a more acceptable kind.
IF your playing a match where you have to defend a target then yes LIGHT camping is ok.
But if your playing in any regular old match and you run to a heavely populated area and just sit in a cornor with oh i dont know say a fucking shootgun, then no that is NOT acceptable.
If you are a sniper and your hiding in the grass taking out targets, yes thats camping but a different kind a more acceptable kind.
IF your playing a match where you have to defend a target then yes LIGHT camping is ok.
But if your playing in any regular old match and you run to a heavely populated area and just sit in a cornor with oh i dont know say a fucking shootgun, then no that is NOT acceptable.
I know what you mean, being a sniper myself i get alot of hate messages about how im a camper, but snipe camping is alot different than noob camping. Also snipeing has been dumbed down in games like MW2 thanks to the all so handy and all so stupid killcam that completely reviels the sniper's location and most likely thier next target or next spot to snipe. A trade off i guess.chaos order said: