So...why doesn't EA just make KOTOR 3 already?

[Dansen]

I just bought KoTOR the other day, and I am having a ton of fun playing it. I am seeing the parallels to the original saga as well as Mass Effect 1's story but the story remains engaging. The only downside is the absurdly clunky combat, Im also not a big fan of dice rolls, but I can deal with it. Over all it is a well put together game that actually allows you to roleplay if you feel like it, such a novel idea to include in an RPG. KoTOR 2 also seems to be praised by the star wars community. So why isn't KoTOR 3 being made?

Lets just ignore the blunder of TOR and just move on. It would be in EA's own best interests to produce the game. It is one of their last remaining franchises that has remained untainted, fans are anticipating this game. It would be the perfect opportunity for EA to restore themselves in the eyes of the gaming community. The game's structure and pacing has been top notch so far. It puts other modern games to shame. As long as they stick with the core formula of the original games I'm sure that the game would be a huge success. Is there any good reason as to why EA doesn't move ahead with a new KoTOR game?

 

[Link_to_Future]

Lets just ignore the blunder of TOR and just move on.

It is one of their last remaining franchises that has remained untainted

Look, it's a nice sentiment but I don't think that people are ever going to bring KotOR into a conversation without it being weighted down by TOR. The two ideas are entwined at this point and any conversation of a KoTOR 3 is going to be hampered by the huge financial setback that came with TOR. Whether you like it or not, TOR is even more of a blemish on the franchise than the rushed and buggy KoTOR 2.

Now look at it through the eyes of the current EA. They want to funnel money into making the "big hits" to boost their profits. Do you think that they would take a risk on making a new game in a property that let them down so spectacularly with TOR?

Unless there is a major shift in the corporate culture at EA (and I mean more of a shift than just changing the CEO), I think there is very little chance of seeing a third KoTOR. I just don't think they would be able to justify the risk to their stockholders and unfortunately, that seems to be the name of the game anymore.

To be honest, I'm not even sure if I would want a KoTOR 3 from them anyway. Bioware just isn't the company that released that game anymore.

[sub][sub][sub]Plus, I'd rather have Jade Empire 2 anyway. >.>[/sub][/sub][/sub]

 

[ThriKreen]

Thing is, it's not even EA's call, it's LucasArts, who is now owned by Disney.

Disney's been ramping up their interactive digital media department, so chances are they'd do it in-house instead.

 

[The Selkie]

I recall the claim (in the lead up to TOR being released) that it would be KOTOR 3, 4, 5 and 6 rolled into one super game. Obviously it's failed to deliver, but they now have the problem that they've resolved Revan's plotline. Yeah, they could set a game between TSL and SWTOR, but the fact that we know what has happened to Revan (and that we won't find him etc.) sort of removes the mystique of the game and limits the scope of what we can do in the game (if we do something fantastic, why has no one mentioned it in TOR?).

I suppose they could set it years after TSL when the order has been rebuilt, but it'd have to be pretty much completely unrelated to Revan. A shame really as he's one of the best creations in the Star Wars EU.

EDIT: They won't ignore TOR as it's still very much an ongoing project. They have thousands of subscribers (plus lots of people buying stuff with real money) who would be very upset if someone were to make the entire game non-canon (many upset enough to stop playing). TOR cost a fortune to make, but it's relatively cheap to keep running now. They won't cut their losses and abandon it, they're trying to scrape every last penny out of it.

 

[Sargonas42]

While Bioware created KOTOR, it was in partnership with Lucas Arts at a time when "heavy hitter" games were not their strong suit. They brought in Bioware to do it right for them, but while Bioware created it, Lucas owns it. Since that time, Lucas Arts is now part of Disney which is ramping up a huge interactive division and is bringing as many things in house as they can, including all things Star Wars. The likelihood of another KOTOR by anyone is not small, but it will only come from within Disney Interactive at this point.

 

[BrotherRool]

The success of TOR is going to come into it to (as well as Disney, I imagine Disney couldn't make a KotoR 3 by themselves though, it'd be a generic Star Wars RPG). They aren't going to discount TOR canon (which is an issue because I hear they talked a lot about the events around KotoR 1,2 time). KotoR 2 was always going to be discounted and the way TOR handled it just confirms that.


But on top of the tricky negotiations , EA may think that the lack of success of TOR suggests the brand isn't strong anymore (a sane person would realise that a game that has you buy force powers from a skill trainer hasn't been designed to feel like a Star Wars game first and is instead an MMO with KotoR painted on, but this is EA).


And maybe after working on TOR Bioware are sick of making KotoR games.


I don't know even how I'd feel about KotoR 3 made by Bioware to be honest. KotoR1 feels a bit bland after I've played more interesting games and most of the magic was sort of the sense of feeling of rediscovering the Star Wars universe. Bioware do really good world-building, but we'd lose that in a sequel and instead we'd be treated to the exciting personalities of people like Carth and all that Malak cutscene-cheating Kai Leng BS KotoR 1 had.


I'd prefer Bioware to make a new game in a new world, so we can appreciate their world building and have a game with the same sense of wonder ME1 and KotoR had than a KotoR 3. Now if Obsidian wanted to make it...


But there is no way EA, Disney would ever sit round a table and give KotoR to Obsidian, so that will be forever fantasy

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Right now, I'm far more interested in Obsidian's idea for a new RPG set between the two trilogies. If they can bring the same level of writing they brought to KOTOR 2, that could be something worth getting excited for.

wait, is that really happening? or just something mentioned briefly at some point in an interview/blog?

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I'd rather have Jade Empire 2 to be honest. I've had enough of Star Wars.

 

[Elfgore]

Well doesn't Disney now own all the star wars rights? If that's the case EA has to get the greenlight from Disney before even thinking about doing it. So my guess is no to us seeing a KOTOR 3 no matter how much I want one.

 

[aguspal]

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What does TOR stand for?


Sorry I am not familiar with all those games I just want to see whats all the fuss about so I can read about something I am bored as hell -.-

 

[mavkiel]

The old republic

 

[BrotherRool]

Right now, I'm far more interested in Obsidian's idea for a new RPG set between the two trilogies. If they can bring the same level of writing they brought to KOTOR 2, that could be something worth getting excited for.

wait, is that really happening? or just something mentioned briefly at some point in an interview/blog?

It's something that may happen if Disney choose to let it happen. Obsidian are pitching ideas for their latest game at the moment and I guess they were trying to build some support for a new Fallout or Star Wars game

 

[unstabLized]

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What does TOR stand for?


Sorry I am not familiar with all those games I just want to see whats all the fuss about so I can read about something I am bored as hell -.-

TOR = The Old Republic.


On topic: Really? Well okay,since you asked, I'll give you a preview of KOTOR 3.

-Day 1 DLC
-5 hour campaign
-Game barely working for the first week
-Season Pass for DLC
-Premium Edition
-Ultimate Edition
-Super Deluxe Edition
-Collector's Edition
...

The list goes on. The game won't be good because for one, the current EA is behind it (unless the new CEO or whatever has some sort of impact), and KOTOR won't go to Obsidian. Depressing news.

 

[Images]

If they do it, they have a couple thousand years of basically empty timeline still to work with so yeah they should.

 

[Phuctifyno]

I recenty watched a clip of TOR that featured Revan and HK-47...

At what point did they decide Revan was a bland white guy? Did I miswatch it? Are there options to change it? Or did they just drink stupid? Would it have been so hard to keep the mask on and the voice distorted, thereby letting every gamer who ever played KOTOR impart their own image and experience onto him/her?

I might be the last person in the universe to complain about that though (I really don't know), since I've avoided the whole thing.

If somebody does ever get around to making KOTOR 3, please let it not be whoever's in charge of the decisions right now.

 

[GlorySeeker]

If I recall, Obsidian told Disney not too long ago, that they would be interested in doing another Star wars game. But they would explore a different part of the star wars history, and make it during a different time period, as to avoid stepping on ToRs toes and EA's. They also stated they were waiting for the dust to settle on Disneys acquisiton of the property before they start pitching the idea.

So will we ever get another KoToR? Probably not. But we could get another stellar Star Wars game by the same guys that did KoToR. Thats a gamble Id be willing to take.

 

[Baldr]

Thing is, it's not even EA's call, it's LucasArts, who is now owned by Disney.

Disney's been ramping up their interactive digital media department, so chances are they'd do it in-house instead.

We don't know the contracts LucasArts has with EA, it could state that EA may have some rights to the publishing side, then there may never be an agreement reached even if one party was interested.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Right now, I'm far more interested in Obsidian's idea for a new RPG set between the two trilogies. If they can bring the same level of writing they brought to KOTOR 2, that could be something worth getting excited for.

wait, is that really happening? or just something mentioned briefly at some point in an interview/blog?

It's something that may happen if Disney choose to let it happen. Obsidian are pitching ideas for their latest game at the moment and I guess they were trying to build some support for a new Fallout or Star Wars game

all the feels, DISNEY BE THE GOOD GUY HERE AND LET OBSIDIAN DO ITS MAGIC.