So... why start smoking?
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Oh I'm not anti-smoking. I actually think it's criminal that they're raising the price of cigarettes as an indirect way to make people give them up. When they're done with cigarettes what's next? Soda? Alcohol? Video games? Junk food?wammnebu said:The anti-smokers on this forum have shown me how much im missing out. the methane from your own farts must be more addicting relaxing, stimulating, and social than nicotene ever could be. I should start, do you have to be 18? Is ID required?Darkauthor81 said:I'm not holy. I'm just healthy. I think I'll go outside and take some nice deep breaths without coughing up tar and, since I can smell, I'll enjoy the fragrance of Spring. I may even go for a jog with my nice healthy lungs.Kaptajn Emil Alfred Conan Swagga Benzon said:I think it's cute how you think you're all holy. Please try to be less of a taunting little *****, and actually contribute to the conversation instead of just shining your own halo. You never really reply to what I say, you just keep telling how you're better. But damn, it's hopeless trying to talk sense into 12 year olds. It seems you only want discriminate and ***** instead of discussing, so have fun on your paper route. I'm out of this conversation.Darkauthor81 said:And your smoking habits disgust me. Hey! We're even! The only difference is I don't smell like an ash tray, I have money, and I'm not on an express train to lung cancer! Obviously I am very weak for not giving into peer pressure like you did.Kaptajn Emil Alfred Conan Swagga Benzon said:
You are so much fun.
Have a nice day.
I'm all for personal choice even if it results in death. Especially if it results in death. If you want to smoke, you want to do drugs, you want to jump off a cliff into a shallow pool of water, you want to drive without a seat belt on? Do it! With a world population approaching 7 billion, why do we need to stop people from doing crap they know will kill them? Everyone knows smoking is going to kill them. It's their choice for taking it up. Just like it's my choice to laugh at them for it.
No, what I am against is coming up with BS reasoning to justify your self destructive behavior which is what that whole argument was really about from my perspective. If a smoker says "Yeah I got hooked trying to impress this one girl and now I'm addicted. Even though I hack up tar and smell like smoke I just don't want to stop it's my choice." Then hey! Power to ya! But if you come at me with crap like "I've fooled myself into believing my complete dependence on this drug has bettered my life" Well, being independent and doing what you want is one thing. Being an idiot is another. I'm an obnoxious prick. I'll admit it. And I love it. My choice. I'm not about to tell you it's made my life better (Hell I can barely keep a job.) Or try to justify it some how because I would no longer be an just obnoxious prick. I would be a self deluded idiot.
It can be very sociable to do it and have something to relate to with other people.. sharing and empathizing about their burdens if you will..
Also, I know what they say about peer pressure and all that but it does actually take you up in the world (in some stranger sections of society..) and also it does relax you which a lot of people like..
Some people are just idiots, try it just to see what its like and then just forget to stop.. although its not that hard to get addicted after only a few so thats kind of irrelevant..
Also, I know what they say about peer pressure and all that but it does actually take you up in the world (in some stranger sections of society..) and also it does relax you which a lot of people like..
Some people are just idiots, try it just to see what its like and then just forget to stop.. although its not that hard to get addicted after only a few so thats kind of irrelevant..
I see you are familiar with the Czech Republic Retirement PlanDarkauthor81 said:
Were humans, all we do is justify impulses and emotions. I justify my smoking with post-hoc analysis, and moral relativism. And you justify your contempt and arrogance with a heightened sense of self worth, will to power, and malthusian spark-notes. So i suppose we can simply agree that we are both worthless pricks and call it a day
Does anybody else realize that cigarettes are radioactive because of all the shit that's in them?
I suppose some start out because they want to look cool or fit in. I for one will never smoke because every time I pass a smoker, it triggers my asthma, and I don't want an asthma attack every time I light one up.
I suppose some start out because they want to look cool or fit in. I for one will never smoke because every time I pass a smoker, it triggers my asthma, and I don't want an asthma attack every time I light one up.
Nicotine is scientifically proven to increase dopamine level, which causes a state of euphoria and relaxation . So it is more than just controller breathing.
So do bananas/smiling/ even thinking happy thoughts. Theres A multitude of other things & I. am. a scientist. [dammit i had to edit this twice to get the quote right. haha.]
So do bananas/smiling/ even thinking happy thoughts. Theres A multitude of other things & I. am. a scientist. [dammit i had to edit this twice to get the quote right. haha.]
The most sensible thing I've heard all day. Have a good day man.wammnebu said:I see you are familiar with the Czech Republic Retirement PlanDarkauthor81 said:
Were humans, all we do is justify impulses and emotions. I justify my smoking with post-hoc analysis, and moral relativism. And you justify your contempt and arrogance with a heightened sense of self worth, will to power, and malthusian spark-notes. So i suppose we can simply agree that we are both worthless pricks and call it a day
Know how people in movies and tv always make fun of marijuana being a "gateway drug"? Well, it kinda is. May not lead to heroin and PCP, but I dunno how much better a pack and a half a day is.
Same goes for many of my smoking friends, started with weed, moved on from there.
This probably isn't quite as common in the US, as they tend to smoke their weed clean, but with mostly shitty hash around where I live, many stoners pick up the smoking habit.
Same goes for many of my smoking friends, started with weed, moved on from there.
This probably isn't quite as common in the US, as they tend to smoke their weed clean, but with mostly shitty hash around where I live, many stoners pick up the smoking habit.
My point is: that it is pointless and unnecessary
Uh Oh i can see this develouping into a philosophical discussion... especially seen as we're on a gaming site......
Uh Oh i can see this develouping into a philosophical discussion... especially seen as we're on a gaming site......
That was probably half sarcasm.Dirty Hipsters said:
In some areas in Auckland City, you pretty much get a soul killing stare smoking in public.
Oh man, smoking is so awesome!
You get a reason for going outside, standing in the cold for 5 minutes.
Your voice gets wheezy and you start coughing.
You aerobic condition starts to get worse. (A flight of stairs... ... Now feels like 10 flights of stairs).
You start smelling bad.
And last but not least, you don't get too much of a good numb dizzy feeling, but instead you feel like shit when you don't have a smoke and feel less like shit when you do.
You get a reason for going outside, standing in the cold for 5 minutes.
Your voice gets wheezy and you start coughing.
You aerobic condition starts to get worse. (A flight of stairs... ... Now feels like 10 flights of stairs).
You start smelling bad.
And last but not least, you don't get too much of a good numb dizzy feeling, but instead you feel like shit when you don't have a smoke and feel less like shit when you do.
I did not feel sick after smoking my first time...
It's kinda' fun to do when I'm alone with my thoughts.
It's kinda' fun to do when I'm alone with my thoughts.
YEAH SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!Mr. Highway said:
I always love it when people online, especially this site, instantly post like they're a genius and the epitome of human evolution for not smoking...
Actually, I'm not comparing. I'm just making an example. Besides, gaming, if done excessively could damage your health as well.DeathWyrmNexus said:
No exercise is a big pointer.
First I'll repeat what mikozero said, he speaks truth:Sjakie said:
Also, I'm not a regular smoker, I'm not addicted. I don't smoke because I get anxious I do it mostly because I either feel like it or because sitting outside on a cool summers evening with a coffee and cigar feels awesome.
Astounding lack of common sense. Whatever personal justifications smokers might come up to explain their habits, the truth of the matter is that smoking is an incredibly stupid thing to do - it makes you smell like ass, it's bloody expensive, and oh yeah, you can (and probably will) get cancer. These are not secrets that have come to light long after the fact either, we've known that smoking is bad for you for bloody decades - if you're my age and a smoker, you absolutely cannot claim ignorance, you knew full well exactly how bad for you smoking was before you started.
So you've intentionally picked up a habit that comes with a hefty load of health detriments at best, or cancer/death at worst, knowing that you would be subject to those health detriments and/or cancer and death as a direct result of your decision, and you made that decision anyways - congratulations! You've just demonstrated an astounding lack of common sense! This is basically the reason behind any ludicrously stupid thing people do that flies in the face of all common sense and instincts for self-preservation.
Of course, people do all kinds of insanely dangerous things, and there is always an element of risk involved with even relatively mundane activities, so it is worth pointing out that it is one thing to live dangerously and flirt with death (extreme sports type stuff, where the risk is mitigated somewhat by proper safety procedures), and another thing entirely to watch Jackass and decide to reproduce those stunts at home, ignoring the warnings that make it very clear that you should never do that for any reason because that would be STUPID. The decision to start smoking, in defiance of decades of medical research telling you "That is a terrible idea" is clearly on the "Jackass" side of the spectrum.
But hey, if you're dead set on killing yourself through your own willful stupidity, at least smoking generally takes a while. Flinging yourself into the side of a barn via home-made catapult, while far more amusing for everyone who is not the flingee, does tend to be rather more immediately fatal.
So you've intentionally picked up a habit that comes with a hefty load of health detriments at best, or cancer/death at worst, knowing that you would be subject to those health detriments and/or cancer and death as a direct result of your decision, and you made that decision anyways - congratulations! You've just demonstrated an astounding lack of common sense! This is basically the reason behind any ludicrously stupid thing people do that flies in the face of all common sense and instincts for self-preservation.
Of course, people do all kinds of insanely dangerous things, and there is always an element of risk involved with even relatively mundane activities, so it is worth pointing out that it is one thing to live dangerously and flirt with death (extreme sports type stuff, where the risk is mitigated somewhat by proper safety procedures), and another thing entirely to watch Jackass and decide to reproduce those stunts at home, ignoring the warnings that make it very clear that you should never do that for any reason because that would be STUPID. The decision to start smoking, in defiance of decades of medical research telling you "That is a terrible idea" is clearly on the "Jackass" side of the spectrum.
But hey, if you're dead set on killing yourself through your own willful stupidity, at least smoking generally takes a while. Flinging yourself into the side of a barn via home-made catapult, while far more amusing for everyone who is not the flingee, does tend to be rather more immediately fatal.