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Master-Jedi

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So I see threads related to Asperger syndrome every once in a while, and its got me thinking. From what I can tell (and the people I've asked) Aspergers is defined by a lack of social skills, which seems to also mean they like being in small groups or alone. Otherwise they are basically normal, as in they can hold down a job and have family's and whatnot. What I want to know is, is there a opposite side to this? As it, is there a mental illness where you have to be around people all the time or you freak out or something? I'm just sick of people talking about how being anti-social is something that you need to fix, and that everyone needs to spend there non-work hours socializing. It would be nice to talk about whats wrong with social people for a change, because there has to be something wrong with them.
 

Vault101

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Aspergers and Autism goes ALOT deeper than being "A-social" it actually has to do with how the brain is wired, Asbergers is on the lighter end of the spectrum..and somthing a little controversial..like ADHD as the Idea is some use it as an excuse for being socially awkward
 

Master-Jedi

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I get that Autism is a more serious problem, but Aspergers seems to be less of a mental illness, and more of a personality type. Its hard to tell where to draw the line. What I want to know, is there a mental illness on the other side of the spectrum?
 

Jonluw

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There probably is, but it probably hasn't been classified as an illness since society views compulsive socializing as a good thing.

It's sort of like how drugs that let you relax are bad and illegal, while drugs that keep you productive... "oh you can have as much as you like of those, lad." No matter the ill effects.
 

Vault101

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Jonluw said:
There probably is, but it probably hasn't been classified as an illness since society views compulsive socializing as a good thing.

It's sort of like how drugs that let you relax are bad and illegal, while drugs that keep you productive... "oh you can have as much as you like of those, lad." No matter the ill effects.
Beta blockers, stimulants, steroids and such are used to enhance performance...are also illigal

and I imagine recretional drugs could make you more "productive" in certain areas...
 

Jonluw

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Vault101 said:
Jonluw said:
There probably is, but it probably hasn't been classified as an illness since society views compulsive socializing as a good thing.

It's sort of like how drugs that let you relax are bad and illegal, while drugs that keep you productive... "oh you can have as much as you like of those, lad." No matter the ill effects.
Beta blockers, stimulants, steroids and such are used to enhance performance...are also illigal
Doctors will give you all of those. But the reason they're illegal is that they have side effects society doesn't like. Giving you an unfair advantage in sports(where performance doesn't have a value of its own), making you agressive, not making you more productive on average over a longer period of time unless you have a condition that responds well to them.
and I imagine recretional drugs could make you more "productive" in certain areas...
For a while perhaps, and in certain areas, but you would be less productive afterwards/in other areas.
Which means your net. productiveness/sociability decreases instead of increasing. So they're illegal.
 

Keoul

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I blame every individual who has ever said "get a life".
They're the ones that made anti-social behavior seem like a problem that needs to be fixed.
Blargh like being too social never ended badly >>
 

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Master-Jedi said:
I get that Autism is a more serious problem, but Aspergers seems to be less of a mental illness, and more of a personality type. Its hard to tell where to draw the line. What I want to know, is there a mental illness on the other side of the spectrum?
Well there is the Paris Hiltons of the world I guess... That is, people who only seem to care about being seen.
 

Colour Scientist

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Aspergers is not defined by a lack of social skills. It's a trait but seriously, no wonder every kid and their dog thinks they have it.

It's not like the test for Aspergers is based on how many friends you have.

I'm sure a lot of people on this site are Autistic spectrum rather than Aspergers.


OP: I've never heard of one. Why does there HAVE to be something wrong with them? This is why everyone suffers from a multitude of 'illnesses', our need to slap a name, a reason and a cure on everything a little bit weird.

I'm a very social person, I have a lot of friends and it's not because there is something WRONG with me. I just enjoy the company of others and, presumably, they enjoy my company.
 

Vault101

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Jonluw said:
Beta blockers, stimulants, steroids and such are used to enhance performance...are also illigal Doctors will give you all of those. But the reason they're illegal is that they have side effects society doesn't like. .
and you know..addiction, negative health affects, wasting away...death

society doesnt like that eather I supose
 

Jonluw

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Vault101 said:
Jonluw said:
Doctors will give you all of those. But the reason they're illegal is that they have side effects society doesn't like. .
and you know..addiction, negative health affects, wasting away...death

society doesnt like that eather I supose
Indeed. That's why they're illegal unless you're already so unproductive that a doctor will prescribe them to you.
Meanwhile, stuff like cannabis which has negligable health effects isn't legal because the main effect is one that makes you okay with not being productive.
 

Vault101

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Jonluw said:
Indeed. That's why they're illegal unless you're already so unproductive that a doctor will prescribe them to you.
Meanwhile, stuff like cannabis which has negligable health effects isn't legal because the main effect is one that makes you okay with not being productive.
ahhh...so THATS what this is about...

I don't know "soceity disaproves of us being high so THE MAN banned it!" <- thats kinda what it sounds like

not that Im totally against legalisation....but I dont they its illigal becase of how chilled it makes people (specifically anyway)

on the otherhand I see no reason why shit like Heron needs to be legalised, no matter how good it makes you feel...who wants to be chaned to a vice like that?
 

Jonluw

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Vault101 said:
Jonluw said:
Indeed. That's why they're illegal unless you're already so unproductive that a doctor will prescribe them to you.
Meanwhile, stuff like cannabis which has negligable health effects isn't legal because the main effect is one that makes you okay with not being productive.
ahhh...so THATS what this is about...

I don't know "soceity disaproves of us being high so THE MAN banned it!" <- thats kinda what it sounds like
Well, it was sort of tongue-in-cheek.
not that Im totally against legalisation....but I dont they its illigal becase of how chilled it makes people (specifically anyway)

on the otherhand I see no reason why shit like Heron needs to be legalised, no matter how good it makes you feel...who wants to be chaned to a vice like that?
I don't think anyone ultimately wants to use it. The users of hard drugs have underlying problems.
I think keeping it illegal only vilifies users and makes their lives harder. i.e. I think the users of hard drugs are the victims and they need our help. They don't need to be put in prison.

I think making it legal and supplying education on the subject would have a far better effect.
 

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i cant read anymore that basic facial expressions, i dont read body language, i freak out in crowds, i cant handle my routine being disturbed, i have baths because i cant handle the stimulation from a shower, i cant wear alot of clothes because the fabric freaks me out, and my interests have been the same for 20 years, ive also eaten the same meals each day at the same time for 30 years, i also havent seen anyone other than the odd delivery man for 18 months.

thats what got me diagnosed with aspergers.

its way more than being anti social and socially awkward
yes, OP, read this - I hope that's not your definition of "social awkwardness" you try to impose on Aspergers Syndrome, as you see it's a bit more than that.

But OT: there are in fact some disorders that are roughly the opposite of social awkwardness. From the top of my head: people with Dependant personality disorder [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_personality_disorder] just cannot be alone. They need people who care about them (in one form or another). They may jump from relationship to relationship only to fulfil that need, regardless if the relationships are healthy or abusive - they at least have someone there. People with Histrionic personality disorder [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002498/] like to be the centre of attention. They would naturally require people to give them that attention. And to a lesser extent Narcissistic personality disorder [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001930/], or in other words chronic dochebags. They have no issue with other people, in fact they may like to surround themselves with other people who reaffirm their self-image.