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Valdus

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diebane said:
You're either gay or no girl likes you when you don't have a girlfriend. I enjoy being single, I don't have to go out with her every 2-3 days, we don't have 3 hour long phone calls and I save money. Is it really that big of a deal when somebody DOESNT have a girlfriend?

mfG diebane
I'd say valentines day, particularly because this problem becomes ten times worse. If you have a GF you suddenly have to be Mr Romantic and treat them like royalty (neverminding how you treat them the rest of the year) or you're a dick. On the other hand - point this out when you're single and everyone assumes you're just pissed because you're single for the day. It doesn't matter if, deep down, you do think the day is utter garbage no one will take you seriously if you're single.
 

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I can't stand people who feel they are a godsend as you should kiss their ass, and the people who persecute you when you don't because "you are being rude for no reason".

It's the basis of the asshole customer and the doormat manager that has screwed up almost every working environment out there.
 

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Then what was your point?
I pulled something because it was argumentative and could have been construed as provocateurism. You decided to be argumentative anyway.

A thin skinned one? How is calling you out for making a non-point thin skinned? Or are you just throwing as much mud as possible and hoping some of it sticks?
...what? I haven't "thrown" any "mud."

Should I cry about you calling me 'think skinned' or is this another case of you being flawless and thus not being a complete hypocrite? Wait nope my mistake, you're a flat out hypocrite, sorry bro.
I just love how the Internet has reduced "hypocrite" to a generic snarl word flung in an attempt to auto-discredit the opposition.

I'd say theres a significant difference, my assertions were at least suggested by her manner and post.

May I ask why you are quoting/criticizing me and yet not applying the same arguments to her? I'll go ahead and assume its bias because you agree with her.
Well, let's see:
JanatUrlich said:
The problem is that people like you are blind to the fact that the world is not equal.
That's the rudest thing she said. In fact, it's the only thing she said that was aimed at you in particular and could be construed as rude. (Her assertion that the forum was sexist was fairly general.)

You, on the other hand, came in with a flippant dismissal of one of her earlier posts, got combative as soon as she replied to you, and have remained that way.

This is a poorly veiled attempt to argue around the point at hand by attacking my posts.
Sorry, but all of the "attacking" here has been on your end, with the possible exception of the "blind" comment. And that was pretty tame by comparison.

I see you didn;t take my prompt to discuss the topic at hand, which I'll take as a sign that you don't actually have anything worthwhile to say.
I did discuss "the topic at hand." If you ignored it, that's on you.

Actually, I used the word trivial. You yourself just called it minor. Don't lie.
You did dismiss it as irrelevant. You acknowledged that she'd brought it up, then completely brushed it off. Calling me a liar because you didn't use that exact word doesn't prove anything.

I'd suggest you were deliberately misrepresenting my argument, but I won't give you that much credit.
Well, that was the equivalent of making moose antlers of your hands and going "neener neener neener."

Go back to my original post and link to me, if you would be so kind, the pieces where I "brush off" and be "dismissive".
Well, let's see:
stinkychops said:
As for your trivial complaints about clothing conventions... Way to cherry pick scenarios. I'm not going to engage in a little "WE HAVE IT WORSE" duke route, and begin listing all the things men have worse then women.
Here's what I take it you were responding to:
JanatUrlich said:
A woman is called a slut for wearing a short skirt but it is perfectly acceptable for a man to walk around bare chested.
Sure, in the grand scheme of things, clothing conventions are minor. But considering the example she used (only moderately extreme and not at all rare), you could have at least bothered to actually address it instead of contemptuously brushing it off.

Instead of supplying arguments which you find offensive. I'm not going to apologise for your sensitivity. I'm just going to briefly refer back to my mention of "need for victimisation" in my post to Janat Ulrich. Feel free to give that some thought.
Y'know...in light of the fact that I accused you of being thin-skinned, that looks suspiciously like a "NO U."

Heaven forbid I be making an argument, instead of attacking the poor oppressed females!
No, you're just championing the poor oppressed males. And breaking out a wounded-gazelle gambit, while you're at it.

Of course, because when I point out someone being rude, and label them based on a post that's unacceptable.

When you do the EXACT same thing to me, you're a hero.
Your response was disproportionate, and I rest my case.

You're not even trying.
You're not exactly making it difficult.

(That was a terrible stretch of my metaphor)
And yet, you felt the need to snip at it anyway. Clearly, it stung.

Ozzythecat said:
The convention that because I have a penis I can only look at women as objects, and that when I say I respect women I get looked at like OJ on trial.
I'm sorry that you've run into some women of the sort that I tend to call "female-chauvinist sows." Some people, regardless of gender, are just jerks.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Western cultural behaviors towards sexuality.

Celebrity worship.

..Er, those are the two major ones, I guess.
 

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JThai said:
The Rockerfly said:
I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet
Exactly why i had to leave; i was pretty much made a social outcast because i didnt want to do any of that, so they wouldnt let me on any of the sports teams :mad:

It Sickens and Annoys me to this day
I feel your pain dude, most nights I'm on my own because I don't want to hang out with the shallow pricks that populate my uni. I tried to go on to the Tai Kwan Do team, I was the only serious one there (I've been doing it for 7 seven years) the rest there for drinking and partying. What the hell is the point? Shouldn't you be in a group to do things in that groups title.

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The Rockerfly said:
JThai said:
The Rockerfly said:
I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet
Exactly why i had to leave; i was pretty much made a social outcast because i didnt want to do any of that, so they wouldnt let me on any of the sports teams :mad:

It Sickens and Annoys me to this day
I feel your pain dude, most nights I'm on my own because I don't want to hang out with the shallow pricks that populate my uni. I tried to go on to the Tai Kwan Do team, I was the only serious one there (I've been doing it for 7 seven years) the rest there for drinking and partying. What the hell is the point? Shouldn't you be in a group to do things in that groups title.

Foreveralone.jpg
Sucks man, i hate that; i dont understand why the drinking culture has to be a prerequisite (almost hobby) in order to be seen as normal. If anything i see it as unnatural.
Amen to that man, they should be committed to their sport, i wouldnt mind going out socially, but there never seems to be a middle ground.

Im thankful for my friends now though :) an amalgamation of like minded Thai fighters and a special group that not only accepts my video game/anime referencing self, but actually start referencing them themselves.

Bide your time though mate, you'll find a few diamonds in the rough
 

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Uni. It's a personal journey, but for me is was a railroading, pointless, expensive, stressful dribble-fest dressed up as a door-opener.
beema said:
That most office jobs could very easily be done from a home office, since all they involve is using an email client and a website. But you are still required to commute in to an office to do them, thereby often sucking 2+ hours out of your day.
Also a massive energy consumer & polluter, these pointless commutes.
 

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People saying ?It can?t be that bad? because I?m not smiling at that moment. I?m not glum, I?m not upset, and I?m probably quite content actually. This is just what a face look like when it isn?t supporting any particular expression.
 

beema

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Generic Gamer said:
1. Are you a teenager by some chance? There was talk about changing secondary school hours to better suit teens (who naturally run on a later cycle than adults) so depending on the company that's actually a rather good idea.

2. The main reasons for a central office are ease of data management for security and ease of monitoring employees for productivity. There's all kinds of hairy things that can happen if you send important data out to people's homes for use on their own computers. You can't 100% guarantee the connection is secure, you can't guarantee the security of the user's computer and you also can't guarantee the honesty and vigilance of the employee.

In theory it's a good idea and in certain cases it can work but as soon as data is confidential/important it becomes unworkable.
Not a teenager, I'm 27, but I guess I still run on a "teenager" clock. I think a lot of people do.

I can understand the need for secure computing environments, but I'm sure there are ways to do that outside of the office and to enforce security for telecommuters. Many companies are probably just too lazy/set in their ways to attempt it though. I think a lot of jobs out there such security requirements wouldn't even be necessary. Most of my job, for instance, entails posting updates to a website that are all seen by the public anyways.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
The real pain in the arse for home office work is actually the end computer. A VPN with good encryption is secure enough and pretty robust to boot but it's the end-user that'll give you grief. Windows 7 and it's excellent built-in antivirus plus the increasing prevalence of Macs alleviate this a bit but home users are slobs, if they CAN get a virus they WILL get a virus.

Of course the problem is then that any worm or other piece of crap that gets into that home PC (you don't want your database on the same PC as his porn browsing, let's leave it at that) will be able to waltz straight into your business network. There's a normal non-technical layer of protection in that people don't hit up dodgy sites at work and that the business can keep the OS updated. One of the reasons Windows 7 is so insistent about updates is that, when left to their own devices, Microsoft found that almost no one installs updates and...well..."the Internet is for porn!"

Of course, don't let that stop you hating it. You're right; it's incredibly frustrating.
Do you mean like if when the employee is not connected to the VPN, they use their work computer to otherwise browse the internet, get a virus, then later when the reconnect to the VPN, the virus can get transmitted back through it?

My girlfriend works from home some times via VPN and she cannot go to websites her work blocks until she disconnects from it. But then, it's her work computer, so she doesn't use it for personal stuff usually.

I guess most people aren't trustworthy enough to behave like her. :/
shit, I used my work computer for "bad internet" all the time back when I had a take-home laptop. LOL
I guess I'm part of the problem... :(
That computer didn't connect to any office/company networks though.
 

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Political correctness. I ignore it, but fortunately I'm usually a smooth enough talker that people have a hard time getting angry at me for being blunt.

I still can't help but wish people weren't so absurdly entitled. Oh, god forbid you be offended -- everyone should just use "Alternate words" so as to skirt your delicate sensibilities.

Emphasis on the "skirt".

Just kidding, ladies.
 

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The Rockerfly said:
Arisato-kun said:
The Rockerfly said:
I hate the bullshit behind uni life, if you don't drink, party, cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend you are a complete social outcast. I'm sorry but if that's what is wrong here I don't want to be right.

Also how much hype people get to being drunk and the glorification behind it. For example using multiple different terms for intoxication and using it as an excuse to be the most obnoxious kind of human being on the planet
Remind me to stay away from whatever university you go to. Mine usually hosts video game tourneys and everyone and their mother has a bottle of Mountain Dew at all times. It's awesome.

OT: People acting like it's cool to say religion is a completely awful thing. Sure it may not be for you, I'm not a very religious man myself, but I've seen some people completely turn their lives around thanks to a little spirituality.
Just most ones in the UK the main ones being in cities and one with any clubs. I swear if I knew this before I went I would have gone somewhere else. Where do you go?
Edinboro University of Pennsylvania. It's mostly art majors which kind of explains everything I just mentioned.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
TheIronRuler said:
Women usually getting the cake and eating it.
The whole feministic approach to things, in which women are independant but on the other hand some women also require men to be chivalrous AT THE SAME TIME.
There's a difference between feminism and people just being nice to each other, you twat. Women are just asking to be treated fairly. I would expect a woman to hold a door for me just as much as a man.
Honestly, why do women keep using this argument. Sure there may be some that want to be treated as just equals and nothing more, but at the same time there are women who actually hate men. Conversely there are also women fo feel just at home as the delicate little flower that has to have everything done for her. it's confusing and it is forcing us men to hold individual standards according to the type of woman you are dealing with, it is discouraging.
 

Farseer Lolotea

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robincb said:
Honestly, why do women keep using this argument.
Because it's generally accurate, perhaps?

Sure there may be some that want to be treated as just equals and nothing more, but at the same time there are women who actually hate men.
Some, but (again) not as many as people tend to claim. (And I somehow doubt they're actually the same women who wonder why you're holding that door.)

Conversely there are also women fo feel just at home as the delicate little flower that has to have everything done for her. it's confusing and it is forcing us men to hold individual standards according to the type of woman you are dealing with, it is discouraging.
Think of it this way, then: Human beings are individuals. Everyone is going to have to be dealt with in a somewhat different fashion. And no matter how hard you try, you're not going to be able to impress everyone.
 

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Mutilator7 said:
Nobody dresses nice anymore. Or wears fancy hats

You must have got this already but ... seriously. Royal Wedding.


Anyway, the convention that because someone is sexually attracted to children they are inherently evil? Oh, people thinking they can judge you without understanding your intent.
 

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ItsAChiaotzu said:
Mutilator7 said:
Nobody dresses nice anymore. Or wears fancy hats

You must have got this already but ... seriously. Royal Wedding.


Anyway, the convention that because someone is sexually attracted to children they are inherently evil? Oh, people thinking they can judge you without understanding your intent.
But isn't your intent those young children your sexually attracted to?