Some questions about hypnosis?

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BloatedGuppy

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Are there degrees of susceptibility to hypnosis? What traits make one more susceptible? Less susceptible?
 

pffh

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How do you feel about working in a field that is essentially just working with the placebo effect?
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Are there degrees of susceptibility to hypnosis? What traits make one more susceptible? Less susceptible?
A good question. In a way, yes. Someone who is naturally more submissive or suggestable will be more susceptable to hypnosis. Likewise, somebody who is more dominant or just isn't comfortable with the idea of not feeling in control will be less susceptable to hypnosis.

Most importantly, in order for somebody to be hypnotized, they have to believe it will work. It's not black magic or voodoo or the hypnotoad or anything, it's a person talking another person into a different state of mind, so unless the subject is co-operative, it won't work well. This is quite a common problem, especially for hypnotists who are just starting out, although when you gain more experience you learn how to make the best of these situations or avoid them entirely as the case may be.
 

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Cryptotom said:
It's not black magic or voodoo or the hypnotoad or anything...
Do you know the HypnoToad? What is he like in real life? Can you arrange for us to meet him?
 

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pffh said:
How do you feel about working in a field that is essentially just working with the placebo effect?
It isn't just working with the placebo effect. Hypnosis allows you to communicate directly with a person's subconscious, and allows you to give the subconscious suggestions. If these suggestions are to the benefit of the person, or at least not detrimental, then the subconscious will act on them. Hypnosis is unique in what it is and it's potential, because there is no other form of treatment or therapy that can do that. Even a simple suggestion to a person's subconscious can profoundly affect that person's life for the better.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Cryptotom said:
It's not black magic or voodoo or the hypnotoad or anything...
Do you know the HypnoToad? What is he like in real life? Can you arrange for us to meet him?
He's actually a swell chap. Behind that enormously loud noise, he's very polite. But I'm afraid I can't arrange for you to meet him. He is quite private.
 

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My mom is also a psychotherapist, who at one time was trained in hypnosis.
She always said "There's no trick to the hypnotist, it's all in the hypnotized"
Saying that it all depends on the hypnotized person's willingness to enter trance, rather than skill of the hypnotist.
Your thoughts on that?
 

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Cryptotom said:
pffh said:
How do you feel about working in a field that is essentially just working with the placebo effect?
It isn't just working with the placebo effect. Hypnosis allows you to communicate directly with a person's subconscious, and allows you to give the subconscious suggestions. If these suggestions are to the benefit of the person, or at least not detrimental, then the subconscious will act on them. Hypnosis is unique in what it is and it's potential, because there is no other form of treatment or therapy that can do that. Even a simple suggestion to a person's subconscious can profoundly affect that person's life for the better.
Ahem...

Cryptotom said:
Most importantly, in order for somebody to be hypnotized, they have to believe it will work. It's not black magic or voodoo or the hypnotoad or anything, it's a person talking another person into a different state of mind, so unless the subject is co-operative, it won't work well.
That's the placebo effect. Now I'm not saying that placebos are bad (around 30% success in optimal circumstances) and pharmacologist study and use the placebo effect quite often. It's quite amazing what the human body can do when it's convinced to do it (both bad and good things) but you didn´t answer my question.
 

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Cryptotom said:
In answer to your question, while that is possible (it's largely dependant on the girls themselves) I personally wouldn't teach you how to do that.

But again, it would be possible, provided the girls were alright with it (or at least, not massively against it and in the habit of that sort of thing...)
But I'm guessing in the end it would be no smaller task then trying to seduce them... ah well, work, work, work.

Oh I heard you guys can undo allergies, is there some truth to this?
 

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Nickolai77 said:
So why did you choose to train as a hypnotist?
It's something that's always interested me, I don't know why, it just has. And a few years ago I just decided to find somewhere good that I could learn it, which I did. I like helping people and I enjoy doing hypnosis, so becoming a hypnotherapist is pretty much my dream job, except for maybe games tester...For Bethesda...And Lionhead Studios...

I'm also fascinated by the potential of hypnosis and all of the things we don't know about the human mind.
 

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Mr.K. said:
Oh I heard you guys can undue allergies, is there some truth to this?
Allergies? I would say no. Since most, if not all, allergies are biological, hypnosis could't do anything to them that I can think of. If somebody had a panic attack when they saw bees because they were allergic to bees, hypnosis could help with that.

Are you sure you didn't hear phobias rather than allergies? Because phobias can be dealt with, very effectively, with hypnosis.
 

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Shirokurou said:
My mom is also a psychotherapist, who at one time was trained in hypnosis.
She always said "There's no trick to the hypnotist, it's all in the hypnotized"
Saying that it all depends on the hypnotized person's willingness to enter trance, rather than skill of the hypnotist.
Your thoughts on that?
That is actually a pretty good description of hypnosis. While the skill and knowledge etc. of the hypnotist is obviously very important, and what they do is crucial, without a subject being willing to undergo hypnosis it simply won't work. When I hypnotized one of my friends she asked me what the limits of hypnosis are and I told her that hypnosis has no limits, the only limits are what the subject sets as limits.
 

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Cryptotom said:
Allergies? I would say no. Since most, if not all, allergies are biological, hypnosis could't do anything to them that I can think of. If somebody had a panic attack when they saw bees because they were allergic to bees, hypnosis could help with that.

Are you sure you didn't hear phobias rather than allergies? Because phobias can be dealt with, very effectively, with hypnosis.
No I heard allergies, but anyway.

So you can make permanent "adjustments" to peoples behavior then?
How far does that extend if they were willing?
Since alot of guys on this site got the whole "I'm afraid of girls" issue could it be possible to "fix" them?
You may also want to put down howmuch you charge because there will be a high demand :p
 

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Is it possible to hypnotize someone who isn't aware of you being a hypnotist?
Also, isn't a hypnotist just a variation of the mentalist?
 

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pffh said:
Cryptotom said:
pffh said:
How do you feel about working in a field that is essentially just working with the placebo effect?
It isn't just working with the placebo effect. Hypnosis allows you to communicate directly with a person's subconscious, and allows you to give the subconscious suggestions. If these suggestions are to the benefit of the person, or at least not detrimental, then the subconscious will act on them. Hypnosis is unique in what it is and it's potential, because there is no other form of treatment or therapy that can do that. Even a simple suggestion to a person's subconscious can profoundly affect that person's life for the better.
Ahem...

Cryptotom said:
Most importantly, in order for somebody to be hypnotized, they have to believe it will work. It's not black magic or voodoo or the hypnotoad or anything, it's a person talking another person into a different state of mind, so unless the subject is co-operative, it won't work well.
That's the placebo effect. Now I'm not saying that placebos are bad (around 30% success in optimal circumstances) and pharmacologist study and use the placebo effect quite often. It's quite amazing what the human body can do when it's convinced to do it (both bad and good things) but you didn´t answer my question.
Well, I admit it s something of a catch-22. Someone has to believe in hypnosis to be hypnotized. Yeah, it's kind of tricky.

I do agree that it holds similarities to a placebo in terms of the nature of it, but the actual act of hypnosis is a very real thing, as are the effects. Hypnosis can fundamentally change the way somebody feels or thinks about something (for the better) which can't be accomplished by a placebo (at least not to my knowledge). Yes, some of the effects of hypnosis could be accomplished by a placebo or any other kind of medicine.

It's difficult to explain, what I'm trying to say is that hypnosis and the effects of it are very real. I do see your point about a placebo, but I wouldn't describe it as one. As I said above, it is a naturally occuring state that happens to you in some small way every day. But for a hypnotist to...For want of better words, artificially induce a state of hypnosis, requires the subject's consent, and therefore their understanding and belief.

I hope that has answered your question.
 

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Cryptotom said:
Well hello there.

To start with I should explain that I'm a trained hypnotist, and I'm hoping to become certified to practice hypnotherapy within the next few years.

Now, hypnosis really is an amazing thing, whether you believe in it or not, but when you say 'hypnosis' a lot of people are stuck with the image of a bearded man swinging a pocket watch, or people acting like chickens (almost every time I tell people that I'm a hypnotist they ask if I have a pendulum or if I can turn them into a chicken. It's quite irritating.)

So, I was wondering, fellow Escapists, do you have any questions or anything you'd like to know about hypnosis? Because I'm happy to answer.
I hope you become a good hypnotherapist!
When mainstream psychiatry was letting me wait on lists for years and threated me for stuff they later decided I didn't have I found a psychologist that really, really helped me.
Probably saved my life...

First with hypnotherapy in the form of relaxation and related excercises, later with EMDR.
So if there are any haters or ignorant people out there; it's real and saves lives!
 

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Mr.K. said:
Cryptotom said:
Allergies? I would say no. Since most, if not all, allergies are biological, hypnosis could't do anything to them that I can think of. If somebody had a panic attack when they saw bees because they were allergic to bees, hypnosis could help with that.

Are you sure you didn't hear phobias rather than allergies? Because phobias can be dealt with, very effectively, with hypnosis.
No I heard allergies, but anyway.

So you can make permanent "adjustments" to peoples behavior then?
How far does that extend if they were willing?
Since alot of guys on this site got the whole "I'm afraid of girls" issue could it be possible to "fix" them?
You may also want to put down howmuch you charge because there will be a high demand :p
Yes, it's very possible. And as far as they're willing to let it go.
In terms of the 'I'm afraid of girls' issue, hypnosis can help improve peoples' confidence and their self-esteem massively.
At the moment, I'm not a qualified hypnotherapist, so it would be illegal for me to charge you. Sort of...Anyway, when I am qualified, helping people with self-esteem and confidence are things I was actually thinking of specialising in.
Rhaff said:
Is it possible to hypnotize someone who isn't aware of you being a hypnotist?
Also, isn't a hypnotist just a variation of the mentalist?
In a way, yes. But you wouldn't be able to put them into what's commonly called a trance. Using covert and conversational hypnosis (basically the same thing) you could bring a person, completely unaware, into a ligh state of hypnosis, which could then help to put them deeper into full hypnosis.

By the mentalist do you mean the TV show? Because I haven't seen it.
 

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BlackJackFrak said:
What do you think of Derren Brown? Are the things he does real or just an act?
Derren Brown...Well, on the one hand I don't like him because of the...Actually I don't know. Just something about him.But on the other hand I'll be the first to say that he really is an incredible hypnotist.

Although, one of my friends that I've hypnotized a few times had been hypnotized by Derren Brown before, and she said she liked it more when I did it. Probably because it was 1 on 1 rather than 1 on 200...

In answer to your question, yes, Derren Brown uses real hypnosis.