Somebody died of spontaneous combustion in Ireland...

[Mrsoupcup]

More proof white phosphorous mail bombs are worth every penny :3

 

[JoesshittyOs]

From the article:

Deaths attributed by some to "spontaneous combustion" occur when a living human body is burned without an apparent external source of ignition.

Guess spontaneous combustion sounds better than "we failed at our job and have no idea why this dude burnt".

Yeah.

This is too stupid to even... I have no words.

 

[iDoom46]

That guy must have done something REALLY bad for god to decide to start burning him before he even gets to hell.

Joking aside, isn't it at all possible that the man simply killed himself by lighting himself on fire using the fire in the fireplace (like, stuck a hand in the fire until it caught)? There's no ignition source when using a pre-lit fire.
That being said, I can't imagine why anybody, suicidal or not, would willingly choose to burn to death, the most painful way to go.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Forensic experts found that a fire in the fireplace of the sitting room where the badly burnt body was found, had not been the cause of the blaze that killed Mr Faherty.

The dude's clothes caught on fire when he poked it or something and he didn't realize it. And at the tender age of 76, he probably panicked and had a heart attack when he realized that he was burning, passed out on the floor and burnt to a crisp.

 

[Harold Mosley]

What puts certain cases into the spontaneous combustion category is the fact that when they find these people,the damage from fire is always localized. Meaning,there is never much damage(smoke or fire) to the area immediately surrounding the victim.
I don't have photographic evidence to look at,but someone burning in fire caused by a spark or cigarette,assuming someone might not awaken in time to put out said fire,would not have the fire stop at their bodies But continue to consume all combustibles in the area,which is the dynamice in most of the cases I've heard.

 

[Toriver]

Yeah, most of the people commenting with theories involving the fireplace are missing the fact that nothing else had any bad smoke damage or burns. There ARE things in this world today that we just don't know, people. Pisses me off to no end: people who believe that current scientific knowledge can solve everything, as if we have already discovered all there is to know about the universe.

But anyway, as a poster on the previous page so expertly put it, this case has all the common signs: only the body burned, it burned completely to ash, and there is little to no evidence that an external source could have burned the body that much. I repeat, there more than likely is a scientific explanation for SHC, but the scientific community just doesn't know what it is yet, and the rare and deadly nature of cases and the lack of useful evidence left behind make it extremely difficult to get to the bottom of it.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

READ AT YOUR OWN RISK

I have followed stories on this phenomena for many many years now (about 10+) and it is truly something that happens but there is no real reason for it. There is one story of a person swinging on a swing and being left for about a minute and upon return they found the person had been reduced to ashes cept for their feet with only minimal burn damage to the swing and grass and shoes (socks remainded). Bear in mind it takes temperatures capable of melting steel to reduce bone to ash (look it up, Cermation is a hot business).
I am sure one can find a number of other cases online, but the above was part of an investigatory documentry into the phenomena so is about as truthful as you will get in the case of rare occurances. If this doctor ruled it to be as a result of Spontanious Human Combustion he needed to be extremely sure about it as it basically says that this phenomena is now scientifically accepted (legally wise anyway).

*For the information, I have read also of a case where someone combusted in front of a crowd at movie theatre. In less than a minute their torso was gone. The fire left their clothes minimally damaged (cept for where the fire had ashed the body). Another few cases where elderly have been found burnt with no damage to surrounding material, and only minor burns to the wood floors, and with extremities intacts (sometimes with clothing) but nothing remaining of the areas that ignited. As stated above, it takes immense temperatures to burn bone, and house fires, even the hottest ones the burn down the wole house, always leave bones and teeth, cause they don't get hot enough.

You have all now been informed, there is really no plus to this picture. Sponatinous human combustion is a scary thing and there is not enough known to predicit it at all.

Sorry but spontanious combustion doesnt exist. If it did we would have a sudden source of infinite energy or at the most scientific spontanious fusion occuring. This is untrue. Energy does not just appear somewhere and make someone burst into flames. Spontanious combustion is an oxymoron. Things do not spontaniously combust. Unless you wanna rule all laws of physics null they simpley do not. Its just a legal term for death by fire with no known cause. These people are always alone. Always at home (i want citation on your examples). And always theres never any footage/proof. Always people. Animals never spontaniously combust, houses never do, grassland doesnt, cars dont, the pavement doesnt, birds dont. This is garbage. The word spontanious combustion shouldnt be used because it just confuses people into thinking energy just randomly appears when it does not. Crappy investigation if you ask me. Spontanious combustion doesnt happen. There is no such thing as ghosts. The lochness monster is a myth. Can we get on with our lives now?

If it cant be replacated in a lab, under the same conditions every time. It isnt science. And it doesnt exist. Find one thing that exists that can defy this definition.

Yeah, most of the people commenting with theories involving the fireplace are missing the fact that nothing else had any bad smoke damage or burns. There ARE things in this world today that we just don't know, people. Pisses me off to no end: people who believe that current scientific knowledge can solve everything, as if we have already discovered all there is to know about the universe.

But anyway, as a poster on the previous page so expertly put it, this case has all the common signs: only the body burned, it burned completely to ash, and there is little to no evidence that an external source could have burned the body that much. I repeat, there more than likely is a scientific explanation for SHC, but the scientific community just doesn't know what it is yet, and the rare and deadly nature of cases and the lack of useful evidence left behind make it extremely difficult to get to the bottom of it.

Sorry energy doesnt just manifest and dissapear unless being converted to or from matter in the core of the burning fury of an incandesant star. So unless that happened in this dudes living room screw it. It doesnt exist. Einstien gave the theory of E=MC squared and thermo dynamics have exists for a LONG time and unless all of this is wrong and magical pixies just whisk energy to a fro in huge quanitites to light fires the theories suggested here are more than likely right.

 

[ace_of_something]

Interesting how many of you seem to think you know more than a coroner about determining cause of death. Especially, since you're espousing things that would be REALLY obvious.

Arrogant much?

 

[sapphireofthesea]

READ AT YOUR OWN RISK

I have followed stories on this phenomena for many many years now (about 10+) and it is truly something that happens but there is no real reason for it. There is one story of a person swinging on a swing and being left for about a minute and upon return they found the person had been reduced to ashes cept for their feet with only minimal burn damage to the swing and grass and shoes (socks remainded). Bear in mind it takes temperatures capable of melting steel to reduce bone to ash (look it up, Cermation is a hot business).
I am sure one can find a number of other cases online, but the above was part of an investigatory documentry into the phenomena so is about as truthful as you will get in the case of rare occurances. If this doctor ruled it to be as a result of Spontanious Human Combustion he needed to be extremely sure about it as it basically says that this phenomena is now scientifically accepted (legally wise anyway).

*For the information, I have read also of a case where someone combusted in front of a crowd at movie theatre. In less than a minute their torso was gone. The fire left their clothes minimally damaged (cept for where the fire had ashed the body). Another few cases where elderly have been found burnt with no damage to surrounding material, and only minor burns to the wood floors, and with extremities intacts (sometimes with clothing) but nothing remaining of the areas that ignited. As stated above, it takes immense temperatures to burn bone, and house fires, even the hottest ones the burn down the wole house, always leave bones and teeth, cause they don't get hot enough.

You have all now been informed, there is really no plus to this picture. Sponatinous human combustion is a scary thing and there is not enough known to predicit it at all.

Sorry but spontanious combustion doesnt exist. If it did we would have a sudden source of infinite energy or at the most scientific spontanious fusion occuring. This is untrue. Energy does not just appear somewhere and make someone burst into flames. Spontanious combustion is an oxymoron. Things do not spontaniously combust. Unless you wanna rule all laws of physics null they simpley do not. Its just a legal term for death by fire with no known cause. These people are always alone. Always at home (i want citation on your examples). And always theres never any footage/proof. Always people. Animals never spontaniously combust, houses never do, grassland doesnt, cars dont, the pavement doesnt, birds dont. This is garbage. The word spontanious combustion shouldnt be used because it just confuses people into thinking energy just randomly appears when it does not. Crappy investigation if you ask me. Spontanious combustion doesnt happen. There is no such thing as ghosts. The lochness monster is a myth. Can we get on with our lives now?

If it cant be replacated in a lab, under the same conditions every time. It isnt science. And it doesnt exist. Find one thing that exists that can defy this definition.

Yeah, most of the people commenting with theories involving the fireplace are missing the fact that nothing else had any bad smoke damage or burns. There ARE things in this world today that we just don't know, people. Pisses me off to no end: people who believe that current scientific knowledge can solve everything, as if we have already discovered all there is to know about the universe.

But anyway, as a poster on the previous page so expertly put it, this case has all the common signs: only the body burned, it burned completely to ash, and there is little to no evidence that an external source could have burned the body that much. I repeat, there more than likely is a scientific explanation for SHC, but the scientific community just doesn't know what it is yet, and the rare and deadly nature of cases and the lack of useful evidence left behind make it extremely difficult to get to the bottom of it.

Sorry energy doesnt just manifest and dissapear unless being converted to or from matter in the core of the burning fury of an incandesant star. So unless that happened in this dudes living room screw it. It doesnt exist. Einstien gave the theory of E=MC squared and thermo dynamics have exists for a LONG time and unless all of this is wrong and magical pixies just whisk energy to a fro in huge quanitites to light fires the theories suggested here are more than likely right.

The definition of the term spontanious is not metaphysical. It describes the way in which it occurs, that it spontaniously without any observable cause. There is such a thing as sponatious electron release from an atom, this is not something magical, it just means it is something that has a random chance of happening.

 

[Psychedelic Spartan]

Kind of makes me want to watch that South Park episode.

My first thoughts exactly. This guy died at home though. If he'd gone up in flames whiloe walking with his hot young girlfriend then maybe there might be something to the "hold in your farts" theory...

Which episode is that?

 

[Undead Dragon King]

Kind of makes me want to watch that South Park episode.

My first thoughts exactly. This guy died at home though. If he'd gone up in flames whiloe walking with his hot young girlfriend then maybe there might be something to the "hold in your farts" theory...

Which episode is that?

This one:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s03e02-spontaneous-combustion

 

[Whateveralot]

I'm always highly dubious of spontaneous combustion theories.
People don't burst into flames for no reason.

I know, but I still quietly want to believe in it actually excisting and just randomly occuring.

All death is a sad thing, though. I couldn't help chuckling, though. The thought of someone actually combusting out of the blue is rather hilarious, even though that's still probably not the cause of death.

 

[Psychedelic Spartan]

Kind of makes me want to watch that South Park episode.

My first thoughts exactly. This guy died at home though. If he'd gone up in flames whiloe walking with his hot young girlfriend then maybe there might be something to the "hold in your farts" theory...

Which episode is that?

This one:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s03e02-spontaneous-combustion

ok thanks.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I guess that's...

*shades*

The luck of the Fry-rish