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end_boss

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I take Halo for what it is, and I really enjoy it. Not the best game or even FPS ever, but solid and simple. I think that's the make or break part of it, actually - its simplicity. It's not as in-depth as other games (like Deus Ex, for example), but it did do something that really stood out to me; it finally found a decent means of FPS control on a console system's gamepad. Long-time PC gamers found it clunky because they're used to keyboard-mouse interface, but Halo (to the best of my knowledge) defined the standards on how a console-based FPS should control. And as far as the first Halo goes, the story was incredible.

But I do see much validity in the point of rating Halo based on the standards of previous experience. People made it out to be more than it was, and those who experienced superior games would obviously be taken aback by fans overrating it. Much like the first Resident Evil, for me; it put survival horror on the map of the mainstream gaming audience, but I didn't much care for the first one because it couldn't compare to the superior Alone In The Dark, which preceded it by several years. In fact, the first time I played Resident Evil, I couldn't stop thinking about how much it was a watered-down and less scary Alone In The Dark.
 

Anarchemitis

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Regardless of what people think of my opinion, I don't like Halo. The original could be said to revoloutionize an entire genre, but it's a genre I couldn't care less about.
 

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TheNecroswanson said:
Am I seriously the only person who is tired of, "Why Halo sucks," and , "Why Halo is da best game EVAR" threads?
You're not alone. I hate ignorent people and Hola seems attract them like a necrophliac to a graveyard. This site is great because like Almightyjoe stated, there really hasn't been a huge fanboy flame war of it.
 
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TheNecroswanson said:
Am I seriously the only person who is tired of, "Why Halo sucks," and , "Why Halo is da best game EVAR" threads?
Nope. HALO is at best a Half-Life mod. Difference is that Consoles haven't had the slew of good FPS's that the PC started off with.
 

ClassicThunder

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Can we please review the game and leave the other bullshit out? People who post this stuff are as stupid as the fanboys.
 

Easykill

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TO EACH HIS OWN! STOP WITH THE GOD DAMN HALO THREADS!

Sorry, but I was sick of these Halo threads almost as soon as they popped into existence, then when I think they're finally gone, another one appears.
 

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Almightyjoe said:
"OGM HALO IS DA BESTEST FPS IN DA WURLD!!!11!!!!" (or variants of such)
There was one guy here who reviewed Halo and Half-Life 2, and rated Half-Life 2 as vastly inferior, and lauded praises upon Halo. I also know people in real life that can't possibly comprehend that 5 games in one package can be better than Halo 3. My main point is that people in real life think that Halo is the best thing ever, but not many on a sophisticated gaming forum think so.
 

Stolfus

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Halo.....Ugh.

I used to love the series. I loved the first for whatever reason. Second was ok. Third was a total let down. I felt used. Bungie focused way too much on multiplayer, which I can't even use (on a farm where broadband internet is not available).

I think the only Bungie title I will ever buy will be the RTS. Other than that, they've lost a customer of any more FPSes they publish.
 

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Holy crap, I go to sleep for a few hours and people immediately bash the concept of someone trying to (objectively) review Halo. I know people have gone too far off in one end or the other. I'm not trying to kick up a flame war, people. Just a man trying to collectively give the middle finger to knee-jerk Halo bashers and worshipers.
 

Anton P. Nym

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Nope. HALO is at best a Half-Life mod. Difference is that Consoles haven't had the slew of good FPS's that the PC started off with.
If you have a Half-Life mod that allows three-way fights, please let me know. I'm dying to try that.

One of Halo's big "stand outs" for me was that the AI wasn't just "ally" or "target"; not only did different character models have different behaviours, but also different factions of AIs would actually fight each other. One of the great joys (for me) in all 3 Halos is manipulating the different factions into fighting each other. Glorious, glorious Covenant vs. Flood vs. Me fights, where I can use my gunfire to sculpt the battle into the form I desire, are for me the apex of shooter gaming. After that, the rest started to feel like prettier versions of Duck Hunt.

Indeed, my biggest disappointment in Halo 3 was that there were so few opportunities to rig those big three-way fights.

-- Steve
 

excessum ado

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I for one am starting to get annoyed with people posting about halo 3 almost entirely for the reasons that 1. They know the multitudes of halo fanboy nerds will sign on and comment and 2. Because they are attention seeking losers. Could we please stop making posts about "halo this" and "halo that" and start making some posts that actually have something intelligent to say and that hasnt been said by hundreds of other users hundreds of other times before. This isnt an intelligent post, this isnt a post that offers an alternative opinion. This is just a rehashed version of what a bunch of other people have already done.
 

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REDPill357 said:
Almightyjoe said:
"OGM HALO IS DA BESTEST FPS IN DA WURLD!!!11!!!!" (or variants of such)
There was one guy here who reviewed Halo and Half-Life 2, and rated Half-Life 2 as vastly inferior, and lauded praises upon Halo. I also know people in real life that can't possibly comprehend that 5 games in one package can be better than Halo 3. My main point is that people in real life think that Halo is the best thing ever, but not many on a sophisticated gaming forum think so.
That was me :)

Although I don't think it's the best FPS eva. I think Call of Duty 4 and Bioshock surpassed it with respect to each games' generation.
 

Rolling Thunder

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Unbiased review of HALO:

Good:
Decent weapons
Interesting health-concept
Sticky grenades
Melee combat
Fun multiplayer.

Bad:
Insipidly bland storyline
Not very good controls for certain vehicles (flying mostly)
No f***ing recoil- gun feels like a toy.
Souless charecter.
Multiplayer is not as good as Timesplitters 2.(Not really a bad but I thought Iwould just straighten that out once and for all time)

Halo is an 8/10 game- good, solid and reliable fun, not massively imaginative but quite frankly there are some times when it's best to have reliable fun instead of the post-modernism of, say, Killer7.


To summarise, the FPS comparison chart.

Better than HALO:

Timesplitters 2
Half-life
BLACK
Killer7
Team Fortress
Operation Flashpoint
COD4
Bioshock

Worse than HALO:

Killzone
Area 51
DOOM 3
CRYSIS
Farcry


Feel free to add to or modify my lists if you disagree. But don't be rude- else I shall return the favour.
 

Break

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However, when I first played it, I thought it was ok, but not fantastic, as it really brought nothing fantastically *new* to the table. The weapons were a cavalcade of mediocrity (to pinch Yahtzee's phrase), and the Library was just time-wasting as you ran around holding down the fire button and pointing it at anything that moved and collecting Shotgun ammo on the way.
No. Halo was almost as important to the FPS genre as Goldeneye. I cannot remember any other game before Halo that used regenerating health, grenades on the left trigger, and a permanent melee button. That's not to mention the vehicles, and how well they integrated with the levels. By today's standards, Halo is not a particularly good game, but it redefined the genre, and has influenced almost every FPS since. Even if they did muck up the health system in the sequels.

O'course, I have no idea what PC gaming has been like since Halo, but I honestly don't think it matters. Console FPS' and PC FPS' are worlds apart. You may as well ask how Halo influenced the racing genre.
 

REDPill357

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Fondant said:
Good:
Decent weapons
I have to disagree on this point. The weapons in Halo were woefully inaccurate. The assault rifle has the largest spread of almost any weapon in gaming history. On the other hand, the pistol can shoot a flea off of a dog's back on the other side of the ring.

And Break, you're wrong. PC FPSs and Console FPSs are now very similar.