Something I learned about PC gaming...

[ZombieGenesis]

You do realise any PC can be hooked up to a PS3 or Xbox 360 controller, right?
If you don't care for that kind of experience then fine, I really don't care. I however would like to be able to play through this, and the next, generation of games without having to pay through the nose- and that's the point of this thread.
If you just want to hate on people who have a better system than you because you don't understand why they'd want one... well, what the hell are you doing here?

Cool about the controllers. When did I hate on people? If you don't care for my preferences, don't reply or read what I have to say. You have your reasons for wanting a PC and they're valid, what's the problem?

Did you even read your post? It was patronising and insulting.
I have no problems with peoples preferences, but that's no reason to walk over other peoples. I never claimed superiority over console gamers, as you said, in fact I was sure to point out that I still AM one. Make a valid point if you want, but we're discussing toys here, so don't be a jerk.

 

[Delusibeta]

Or in the case of PS3s (and 360s if you fear for your discs, it's wireless controller > disc in box > start machine up > insert disc > install game > download patch(es) > play.

Which is pretty similar to how most PC games are installed these days.

I actually plan on getting a HD 360 for installing games, so yeah. I haven't heard about the patches though, only DLC and demos and stuff. :/ Call me confused.

Some games do release patches, although for most console games they tend to be fairly small and essentually bug fixes (notable exception: Burnout Paradise). Of course, then there's free DLC on top of that which is more than likely be essentual in multiplayer games. Not to mention the pay-for map packs. Generally speaking (and excluding MMOs and MW2), you only have to pay once for your multiplayer experience in PC games, something which can't be guarenteed with consoles.

 

[RobCoxxy]

Me and my flatmate Scott had high end computers custom built from two companies, cost us £560 and £600 respectively, about £80-100 would have been "Build cost".

Not bad at all, really.

Then our flatmate Alex paid £1500 for an Alienware laptop that had 3gb ram and a mid-range graphics card. And, he uses it like a Desktop.

What a Penis.

 

[Evil the White]

Congratulations, you've discovered the main rules of PC gaming:
1. Alienware is overpriced.
2. boxed packages from mainstream stores are overpriced.
3. It's cheaper to put it together yourself or get an indie place to do it.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

At this point I'm not asking for an apology, I'm just waiting for you to sod off. Jerk.

Anyway, can anyone verify my inquiry into the 5750 = PS3 thing?
I've been looking into benchmarks for Resident Evil 5, and it seems to run pretty well. Otherwise it's good to see a PC thread with a (minimal) amount of complaining~

 

[Hateren47]

At this point I'm not asking for an apology, I'm just waiting for you to sod off. Jerk.

Anyway, can anyone verify my inquiry into the 5750 = PS3 thing?
I've been looking into benchmarks for Resident Evil 5, and it seems to run pretty well. Otherwise it's good to see a PC thread with a (minimal) amount of complaining~

Haha yeah your computer should be all over Metro 2033. Xbox 360 has a 500 MHz "Xenos" (basically a Radeon X1900), and Playstation 3 has a "RSX 'Reality Synthesizer'" (based on the GeForce 7800 GTX GPU)

Also:
http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10383/ or http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/

 

[Skizle]

Well at least that's one of you.

Now for the rest who list "oh it's sooo expenisve" as a reason as to why PC gaming is "dying".

Well it is a legitimate excuse. To get a GREAT gaming PC it will cost you around $700 or more

OT: Good for you. Now if you become an elitist bastard, well I cant say it will be pretty for you.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Well at least that's one of you.

Now for the rest who list "oh it's sooo expenisve" as a reason as to why PC gaming is "dying".

Well it is a legitimate excuse. To get a GREAT gaming PC it will cost you around $700 or more

OT: Good for you. Now if you become an elitist bastard, well I cant say it will be pretty for you.

Not at all, I still have all three current gen consoles in my house, and a large reason for getting the new PC was to help my fiance with her graphics design work~ Besides, I practically live on the handhelds.

Oh and Hateren, cheers for the system specs! I feel a lot more confident about that.

 

[Wolfram23]

I just built my own PC at the end of April. It kicks ass, but at this point I've spent like... $2300 on it and peripherals. Lol. I think when I bought it I initially spent more like $1600. But there was always just one more thing I needed/wanted/had to get... but I guess that's just how it goes.

 

[Eggsnham]

Yeah, if you know what to do, PC gaming can *sigh* be awesome, but for most average folks who are just trying to play a game here and there and don't want to spend upwards of $700-1500 on a good rig that they'd have to assemble themselves, plus the expenses of upgrading it over time; a one time payment of $200-400 for a pre-assembled PS3 (or Xbox, if paying $50 a year to enjoy online is your thing) that can play most games on the level that a gaming rig can is most definitely a good choice.

Now to tackle the hurdle of there being no mods or modding on consoles...

 

[Woodsey]

Well at least that's one of you.

Now for the rest who list "oh it's sooo expenisve" as a reason as to why PC gaming is "dying".

Well it is a legitimate excuse. To get a GREAT gaming PC it will cost you around $700 or more

I'm a little bit on the pissed side, but as far as I can work out $700 is in the region of £500. For something that can do 3000 things as well as play games, that's dirt cheap.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Well at least that's one of you.

Now for the rest who list "oh it's sooo expenisve" as a reason as to why PC gaming is "dying".

Well it is a legitimate excuse. To get a GREAT gaming PC it will cost you around $700 or more

I'm a little bit on the pissed side, but as far as I can work out $700 is in the region of £500. For something that can do 3000 things as well as play games, that's dirt cheap.

(Yeah, $700 = £460 )

 

[bam13302]

yea, custom computers are cheap, you can even put near top of the line components in a computer and still keep it below $2k
if you want to pay to much, its not that hard, get an extreme edition pentium processor, some SSD drives, and a radeon 5970 or 2 and your comp could easily top 5k, but put a AMD x4 (or even x6), 1T western digital 7200 rpm, and a GTX460, and your comp shouldnt top $1500
shop smart and you will have a very pretty, very powerful gaming computer for 1/3 the cost of comprable computers bought from a store that still look like **** (sorry, most of those towers for premade comps look horrible, and have horrible air circulation, they are improving, but they still suck)
oh, and if something breaks, you can fix it easily for cheap (or free if the component is still under warranty)

 

[Rhiehn]

I'm sorry, am I missing something? £700 for a gaming PC, and you're all nodding your heads sagely and agreeing wwith how cheap that is?

A new Xbox 360 with a 250 GB hardrive costs, on Argos.co.uk, £190. That's less than a third of what your PC cost you. A 250 GB PS3 costs £285 from Argos, and that comes with two free games. I'm honestly struggling to see what exaclty is cheap about the PC option.

Probably the fact that most people have a pc and would pay the difference for a pc they didn't plan to play games on. Think of a gaming pc as a computer plus a current gen console, you pay more for any pc than for consoles, what's wrong with adding a console's cost to it and getting a better system than any console?

 

[octafish]

I'm sorry, am I missing something? £700 for a gaming PC, and you're all nodding your heads sagely and agreeing wwith how cheap that is?

A new Xbox 360 with a 250 GB hardrive costs, on Argos.co.uk, £190. That's less than a third of what your PC cost you. A 250 GB PS3 costs £285 from Argos, and that comes with two free games. I'm honestly struggling to see what exaclty is cheap about the PC option.

Add in the price of a TV for the 360 and a PC for the internets, and word processing, and photo editing and all those other PC things you do and get back to us.

 

[Vilcus]

My reason for being a console gamer isn't because PC gaming is too expensive. The problem is that I don't have enough money to begin with. I myself don't make much money (no job, I get $20.00 a week to do light cleaning around the apartment), so when my video card exploded I was forced to turn to consoles. I can still play games like Warcraft III and WoW, but I have to put them on minimum settings... I hate crappy replacement video cards.

I've always known that building a decent gaming PC wouldn't cost me any more than $1,000.00. However, because I don't have much money that seems like a lot (could make that much after 3 or 4 weeks at a part time job), and building one wouldn't be a problem (my dad has built every computer he has ever owned, including the ones he got for me). I just hope I'm able to get my system up and running in the next 2 months so that I can enjoy games like Starcraft 2, L4D2 (for the mod support, and simplicity of control), and when it comes out Diablo 3 (lots more than that, but those are ones I'm really looking forward to).

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

PC gaming was expensive. Back when the games were regularly pushing the hardware, there was legitimate reason to spend $2-3k on a cutting-edge system - and that was certainly a far cry from the $200-300 you'd spend on a then-current-gen console.

Now the PC hardware has completely outpaced the software. Crysis is still considered one of the most demanding PC games, and it's three years old. The next Crysis looks to be a downgrade in terms of system reqs; they're intentionally scaling it to work on consoles.

And that's the thrust of it all. Consoles might be inferior in just about every conceivable way, and you might be able to run 90% of PC releases at max settings with only a $700-800 machine. None of that changes the fact that the PS3 and 360 are driving the software side, which means the hardware side of PC gaming is going to be limited.

Long story, short: PCs don't get to fly anymore. They're tethered to console-shaped anchors. This is good for people who want to game on PC without dropping a few thousand dollars, but things aren't so rosy for the folks who enjoy really pushing the tech.