Something Important Happens on 11/11/11 (Not Another Skyrim Thread)
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Yeah, remembrance. Like remembering to actually eat and shit. Not forgetting I have a lovely gf who is amazing. Remembering that I had a life before the horrible Skyrim monster ate it.
I respect the dead, but I can't remember someone I never knew. Rememberance day, as with all ceremonies of rememberance for someone who died, leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I feel as if I am intruding on those who actually lost someone's mourning. I respect the sacrifices these people made, but I can't in good conscience stand by mothers with dead sons and sons with dead mothers pretending to remember the people they lost, but I never knew.
I first became aware of this is school. One of the popular students, nicknamed buster, was stabbed, and there was a big rememberance assembly because of it. his family was there, people who actually knew him were crying, it was terrible, and the silence held made me feel awful, because there I was, sitting amongst tons of others who knew and liked this guy, sitting in silence, respecting his memory and coming up with a blank. I felt guilty, because it felt so insincere to give rememberance to someone I never knew, like I never even said hello to this guy, and now he's dead, I notice him? I felt like a jackass.
I first became aware of this is school. One of the popular students, nicknamed buster, was stabbed, and there was a big rememberance assembly because of it. his family was there, people who actually knew him were crying, it was terrible, and the silence held made me feel awful, because there I was, sitting amongst tons of others who knew and liked this guy, sitting in silence, respecting his memory and coming up with a blank. I felt guilty, because it felt so insincere to give rememberance to someone I never knew, like I never even said hello to this guy, and now he's dead, I notice him? I felt like a jackass.
To me, it's not to remember a specific person, or even nation, but to remember the sacrifice.Doclector said:
I'm in the US, so I'll be asleep while you all are doing that, but I'll be sure to take a couple minutes out of my day to remember them
Aaaawww, ad hominem already and we had just begun.ccdohl said:
Anyway, time for a lesson in "you are not everybody"!
People are dying all over. Who we should be having moments of silent for are the unarmed people, or "civilians" if you want to use that disgusting made up term to distinguish between who's getting killed and who's doing the killing.
People that are killing foreigners are not doing it for you, and people dying in foreign countries are not doing it for you either. You are not in the equation, irrelevant, just a fraction. Money is where the war goes. Special interests by men wearing suits. Decision makers see a profitable land in some other country and think it's time to use some of that fancy new army stuff.
I also love this argument that 'you not living in communist/fascist country speaking russian/german -> people dying for you'. What if I was Russian? Mate, the only people that have fought even remotely on my behalf were a few guys on a boat fighting for cod by crashing into British frigates. I don't give a toss if some dude get's blown to smithereens in Uganda or Baghdad. He should have known better. An excellent time for a quote from GTA IV: "War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other."
People still chewing on that old sandwich that there is some nobility left in battling enemies, that there is some purpose other than quick personal gain for wars. We are territorial creatures for sure but it's time to move on. We are in dire need to change our way of thinking about our selves and our stance on this planet. Our very presence on this planet is being threatened by ourselves; and we can't get over the feeble fact that some people are different, have other opinions and that automatically poses a threat?! Have we not learned anything about ourselves in these ~200.000 years we have lived here? There are a time and place to morn and remember, but doing it en masse, and only for the people on our side, is just totally backwards when it comes to human evolution.
I'll just leave this here:
Oh, I do. I think about the sacrifices made by people who fought in just wars, and the tragedy of people who died thinking they fought in a just war. Barely a day goes past when I don't contemplate that, but it's the fact that such a day means so much more to the aforementioned family and friends-I already know of their sacrifices, I dream of a world in which such sacrifices need not be made, why should I intrude their mourning with my mere contemplation? It almost seems disrespectful to me.Blunderboy said:
Well that's fair enough.Doclector said:
It should be something you do because you want to, not because you feel forced to.
Not sure of trolling or stupidBlunderboy said:
Rememberance day is for remembering two world wars. The fact that you're sitting here trying to insist that people didn't die for YOU shows WHY Rememberance Day is important.
I want you to look at your hair color. Is it blond?
What about your eyes, are they blue?
Are you German?
If you answered no to all these questions, then I assure you, sir... you truly DO owe your life to the brave men and women that held the line, that refused to allow Hitler to take Europe over, who kept him from owning the seas.
If they had not done that, your birth would not have happened. Your parents' birth would not have happened. Your grandparents' youth would not be concerned with things like 'the nuclear family' and 'television' and 'rock and roll' but 'oh god I hope we're not taken to the poison room today.'
Seriously. Learn.
Vegosiux: Sorry, mate, totally fixed that.