Sonic Creator Wants to Make Dreamcast 2

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mindlesspuppet

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I love Dreamcast, it was/is by far my favorite console, but realistically Sega doesn't have the budget to compete with the likes of Sony and Microsoft.

I'm not sure why people say bad advertising was Sega's downfall. It really wasn't. Who over the age of 20 doesn't remember the old commercials that screamed "SEGA" at the end? Dreamcast's 9-9-99 campaign was brilliant.

Sega's problem has always been the competition, there's really no way around it.
 

Traun

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Four consoles competing against each other?
The only one who could possibly win something out of this is Sega.
Developers would have to go either exclusive or port things to FOUR consoles( +PC if they want to).
Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are going to loose out of everything.
And customers who want the full gaming experience would have to shell a lot of money.

Too many consoles on the market make video game crashes come true.

That being said, if SEGA wants to release a new video game console, the next 1-2 years are the best moment. Neither Sony, Nintendo, nor Microsoft are willing to push to the next generation, so hey, why not SEGA? It would be fun to watch...

And I am sure AMD would be pleased at the prospect of assisting someone in the gaming market.
 

Kazedarkwind

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this would be the only thing that would convince me to give up my roots as a PC only gamer...unless it was just a wii clone >.>
 

Saltyk

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Mikester1290 said:
Don't think I'd buy one, but thats cos I'm a PC guy.

But I'd LOVE to see a third contender in the console market. I loved the old consoles.
Um.... third console? Just who do you think the other two are? I'm curious.
 

linkzeldi

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demoman_chaos said:
linkzeldi said:
and also give us another sonic adventures.
There is one on PS3 and 360 called "Sonic the Hedgehog." All it lacked was the chao garden. It had everything the Sonic Adventures had, but was so terrible people try to forget about it and don't want to associate it with the other 2 SA games that were much better.
*Shivers*

That brings back so many bad memories.
 

twm1709

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If Ivy the Kiwi performs well, says Naka, who knows? Maybe a Dreamcast 2 would be in the cards someday.
Is this good man trying to bribe us or something?

I had a Genesis, so have a fondness for the old Sega, but history has shown that as a company they sucked at making decisions, and wasted a very solid chance to be an equal to nintendo.

Xbox fans might be happy Sega went down though. I doubt there would have been a market for 4 different consoles AND PC.
 

John Funk

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Gindil said:
Too soon? I think the problem was they released a console too many...
Excluding the attachments, SEGA did not make more consoles than Nintendo:

SEGA - Nintendo
Mastes System - N.E.S.
Mega Drive - S.N.E.S.
Game Gear - Game Boy
Saturn - Nintendo 64
Dreamcast - Gamecube
Nothing - Wii
Nothing - Game Boy Color
Nothing - Game Boy Advance
Nothing - DS
Nothing - 3DS
 

Gindil

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Experimental said:
Gindil said:
Too soon? I think the problem was they released a console too many...
Excluding the attachments, SEGA did not make more consoles than Nintendo:

SEGA - Nintendo
Mastes System - N.E.S.
Mega Drive - S.N.E.S.
Game Gear - Game Boy
Saturn - Nintendo 64
Dreamcast - Gamecube
Nothing - Wii
Nothing - Game Boy Color
Nothing - Game Boy Advance
Nothing - DS
Nothing - 3DS
That's missing the point I'm making. Sega wanted people to upgrade and buy all of the peripherals to enjoy the game. And instead of either slowly upgrading the Genesis or trying out an entirely new system, their peripherals (attachments) were meant to artificially extend the life of the game system.

Game Gear was outright trounced by the Game Boy and its extended library,
Nintendo eventually won with the SNES' better collection of games (and Sega's abysmal failures with the Sega CD and 32X), Saturn was expensive and Dreamcast was a US market flop because of no money to advertise the Dreamcast, no broadband support (think about what would have happened if broadband were around for PSO back in the day).

All in all, Sega of America made pretty poor choices all around which hardware was better in the 90s.
 

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icyneesan said:
I can see the headlines now...

Dreamcast 2 released!
*a few months later*
Sony and Microsoft join forces to make ultimate video game console! Dreamcast gets blown out of the water! AGAIN!!

And then everyone laughs. Ha-ha-ha-ha :D
I want to know what newspaper you read that has gaming news.....


OT: I was actually joking about this sort of thing around PAX time as a "this would never happen" scenario... Now look... Oh boy, I'll never be given a million dollars and a job at VALVe hohoho
 

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Creating a console when everyone else is trying to ride out on their current consoles for a decade or more? I'd buy one, just to support Sega's massive balls. But, since Sonic is now terrible, I'm not really sure what games I could possibly enjoy on it.
 

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He wants to make a Dreamcast 2? Seriously? Where does he want donations sent to? I want in! Dreamcast was ahead of it's time and just needed a little more love and never got it. I loved the Dreamcast even though I never owned one personally and I would kill for a new Sega console, especially with a 500GB or 1TB HDD and a virtual console clone with every Sega game from the Dreamcast backwards to download. I hate digital distribution but in Sega's and Nintendo's case I never say no. I'd even be willing to pay the same price that the PS3 launched at for it. Plus I'd love the old rivalry revived and Sega will finally start making good Sonic games again to keep the boat a float in the water.

Viva le revolution!
 

Canadamus Prime

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I don't think that's a particularly good idea. I think Sega does much better as a purely software developer. I personally feel that getting back into the hardware side of things would be a mistake on Sega's part.
 

VeNT666

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/me hits the bay for a 2nd hand dreamcast!

also wasn't the dreamcast like MEGA cheap when it was launched? iirc £120?
 

OintmentFly

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Oh, the Dreamcast. The worthy successor to the MegaDrive (or Genesis for those of you from foreign parts :p)- the Saturn doesn't count; that thing was bound to fail - that didn't get the advertising, 3rd party support or sales to keep it alive. Seriously though, what idiot decided to release it with two other next-gen (at the time) consoles from massive companies just around the corner? Consumers (and the game developers that make money off them) are savvy enough to want to wait and see how it pans out before shelling out money. I know I did! The Dreamscast relied on the rabid enthusiasm of Sega fanboys and look what happened (Admitedly I am one of those fanboys, I consider the MegaDrive my favourite console ever).

Keeping this in mind, I find it hard to believe that a new Dreamcast, assuming Sega could ever get enough cash and structure to start building consoles again (which isn't going to happen any time soon), would work. It would be just a little bit of history repeating. Everyone here would buy one, but imagine trying to convince the current generation of gamers - who may never have heard of, seen or played a MegaDrive or original DC - to buy one...it won't happen. Sony and Microsoft are too big, too well supported by 3rd party and have too much market prescence. And don't get me started on the Wii's appeal to the casual gaming lot. Beside's the fanboys and older gamers I really don't see this having any marketable appeal and thus the same thing would happen. No 3rd party games, no market room. And now that you can get the old Sega games on download and Sega has moved it franchises to other systems there's not even any sort of exclusivity to it, which means no real incentive to buy other than the logo of a company that nearly went bankrupt over a decade ago. Hardly inspiring.

I find it interesting that someone mentioned a partnership with AMD. If you consider the business model at AMD (having consistant architecture throught model lines, meaning consumers don't have to buy an entirely new system every 2 years and production, thus retail cost, remains relatively cheap) and what happened with the MegaDrive (attempting to extend the lifespan of existing succesful hardware by integrating new technolgies into the base structure) it's quite an interesting dynamic. I don't know how this approach would work for consoles (which are pretty much self contained) but I'm a fan of AMD and always build my pc's around their products; I'd be interested to see what they could with a console. correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they do the graphics architecture for the Wii? They've been able to make some slick looking games on that system...

So in the event that Sega/AMD did make a console, what direction would it take? Next Gen, packed full of HD graphics, Blue-Ray players and Hard-drives (Which it just doesn't have the money/ability to do at this time) or a less powerful, gaming only, nostalgia driven fun machine (like it's rival Nintendo have done with the Wii). Or a mix of the two? The second option might be way cheaper to produce (and thus become availiable for significantly less than current sysems - I'm thinking circa $250 bucks) and have some feasablity in comparison to the first but again, outside Sega die-hards it might be hard to market to the masses. Especially in this age of online gaming. But a push to bring back a time where you got your mates together to sit around a console and game in each-others prescence - without the fiddly motion controls - would be most welcome I think. A machine with specs somewhere between Wii and X-Box could definately handle remakes/sequels to all the good ole games like Shenmue, Powerstone, Panzer Dragoon, Nights ...I'd even like to see some MegaDrive classics like the Strike and Road Rash serises remade. Shining Force. Platformers like Earthworm Jim, Rocket Knight Adventure and of course Sonic. Fighters like Golden Axe and Streets of Rage - hell, one of the games I've played a buttload of recently was Scott Pilgrim, and that's 16bit retro through and through! Then there's Sega's Arcade classics like Virtua Fighter and Virtua Cop, Daytona USA etc., all of which a system without cutting edge specs could handle.

But, like I said, history would probalby repeat itself. Then again, it might just be a good little money maker for Sega at the tail end of the current Gen of consoles and become a stepping stone to proper entry into the next generation with all the major players having to step aside and pay some serious respects to one of the old heavyweights.

What do y'all think?
 

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mirror said:
half life was going to be on the dreamcast, but the port got canceled. maybe episode three will come out for dreamcast 2 some year...
Hmm. Well, you never...

...I see what you did there.

OT: Sega has been off the market far too long to try and attempt something of this magnitude. Marketing it would suck profits to the floor.