Sony Admits External Forces Brought Down PSN

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TheBeastly

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HyenaThePirate said:
Comando96 said:
HyenaThePirate said:
I wonder if anybody is now rethinking that whole "PSN > Xbox Live cause it's Freeeee!" thing.

Right about now I'm betting that $5 monthly fee doesn't seem all that ridiculous...
To be fair if any of the PSN V XLive is to occur then both need to be hacked by the same group before we can truly see which stands up better.

The argument you make so far is that because Solder A was killed because he had people firing at him while Soldier B is alive and he didn't have people firing at him... therefore B is superior. Na. Both must be put in the same situation.
No, that's silly.
What I'm saying is Army A is dealt a terrible blow by the enemy and is unable to protect its property because it lost a soldier and didn't have the funding or infrastructure set aside to endure such a loss. Army B loses a soldier but since they are well funded by the people they are paid to provide protection from, they are and have been able to keep their troops in armor, weapons, and to hire new soldiers immediately to restore order or prevent order from being lost to begin with.
That.. Is the best theory I've ever heard.
 

The Bandit

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JDKJ said:
The Bandit said:
Aku_San said:
I am kinda pissed that this happened. I play mostly on my ps3 (online, anyhow), so this is really annoying. I'm more pissed that people are calling out Sony, claiming that they solely blame anonymous. Where in any report have they made such claims? I have yet to see it. I don't know why anyone is attacking them for it. I bet if XBL went down, people would be more sympathetic. But since it's Sony, everyone hates on them, it seems.
I can't even begin to wrap my mind around this statement. You're made because people are blaming Sony because Sony's PSN shut down? Isn't it... you know... like their job to make sure PSN doesn't shut down? Who should be blamed?
I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around your statement. Yes, it's American Airlines' job to do everything humanely possible to ensure that their airplanes land safely and in one piece at their destinations. But if a terrorist shoots one of those airplanes out of the sky with a surface-to-air missile, who should we blame? American Airlines?
That's not analogous at all and you know it. It's why you used a surface to air missile instead of a terrorist bringing a gun on board. I'm not even going to argue against it. You know the flaw in your argument.
 

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Actual said:
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Sounds like Sony looking for an excuse for a hardware failure. Server farms and pipelines go down, it happens. No company wants to admit that it happens to them and Sony has the convenient recent trouble with "external influences" to pin it on.

I mean all we can definitely say is that it's not an ion cannon DDOS which is Anon's weapon of choice. As a DDOS doesn't bring a network down like this, it goes in fits and starts and it only affect the server it's targeted at, not all of them.
Actually I'm sure you'd rather say it was a hardware failure than admit that a service where people can provide sensitive information (like card details) isn't actually all that secure as it has been hacked.

I doubt Sony would say this as an excuse as it'd be a pretty stupid excuse!
I don't know, it gets people on Sony's side, people see them as under attack by a faceless group of miscreants earns them a little breathing room. No-one is saying wow Sony your security is shoddy. They're saying, why anonymous so eeevil?
Seen the recent news? Me thinks I may have been right...

Sucks though... Looks like my passwords are being changed...
 

JDKJ

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The Bandit said:
JDKJ said:
The Bandit said:
Aku_San said:
I am kinda pissed that this happened. I play mostly on my ps3 (online, anyhow), so this is really annoying. I'm more pissed that people are calling out Sony, claiming that they solely blame anonymous. Where in any report have they made such claims? I have yet to see it. I don't know why anyone is attacking them for it. I bet if XBL went down, people would be more sympathetic. But since it's Sony, everyone hates on them, it seems.
I can't even begin to wrap my mind around this statement. You're made because people are blaming Sony because Sony's PSN shut down? Isn't it... you know... like their job to make sure PSN doesn't shut down? Who should be blamed?
I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around your statement. Yes, it's American Airlines' job to do everything humanely possible to ensure that their airplanes land safely and in one piece at their destinations. But if a terrorist shoots one of those airplanes out of the sky with a surface-to-air missile, who should we blame? American Airlines?
That's not analogous at all and you know it. It's why you used a surface to air missile instead of a terrorist bringing a gun on board. I'm not even going to argue against it. You know the flaw in your argument.
What's the flaw? I could have used any one of hundreds of examples where the loss isn't the fault of "X" but is that of a force beyond the control of "X" Same difference. No matter how hard you try, you may still fall victim to uncontrollable forces. That ain't your fault.