"Speaking of current PS3s, Sony will also be dropping the price tag on "all current PS3s on the shelf" to the same point as the Slim: $299 and 299 Euros."Abedeus said:
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Sony Reveals PS3 Slim, Drops PS3 Prices to $299
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I think they mean the difference between the two price points.Madmanonfire said:
299 Euros = $422.512
You're joking right?KingKamor said:
1) It's still freakin' expensive. I'm not going to pay $30 for a loaf of bread, just because it used to cost $40.
2) I've yet to hear of an exclusive PS3 title that really gets me interested in the platform.
3) They killed 90% of the console's value when they removed backwards compatibility.
4) Most middle-class people don't have good enough A/V systems to really care about Blue-ray.
Until Sony releases either a backwards-compatible system (that doesn't have blatant rendering problems) for $199 or cuts the price of the newly announced slim to $99, I for one wouldn't even begin to consider buying the PS3. I'll stick with my trusty PS2 and my PC, thank you very much.
Why don't you just buy an old model at it's new price, since most have BC(except the 40gig). The slim wont by the way.scotth266 said:
I'm sure if you told us what kind of games you like we could find one up your alley.dorm41baggins said:
Really? didn't you say at the end of this post that you still have a ps2. Why do you give a shit
If you're a middle-class gamer, it's not about the graphics it's about the games and even if you are still in denial about it or not, Sony does have quite a few good games and a pretty stellar lineup this year.
Once again, you have a ps2, why do you care about BC? I could understand if your PS2 didn't work anymore, or if Sony refused to service PS2's anymore(which they don't), but now it just seems like you are coming up with unreasonable or illogical reasons to put up a barrier between the PS3 and the gamer.
side note: I got my console on release, after a firmware update that came a long time ago, it has smoothing for the PS2 games and few to no rendering issues.
Wait, which PS3's have backwards compatibility? I was under the impression that there was only one model that had BC that was discontinuedjboking said:
Well fuck, maybe Sony should just give them all away for free.dorm41baggins said:
Last year the 360 shed $100 from its price tag, right around the same time of the year. Now that Sony does it, it's just not enough.
Fuck all, nobody is ever happy on the internet.
I see what you mean, but in the end, they said all PS3's are the same price, in the respective areas. It just looks like somebody was confused that the slim would cost more than the fat when talking about one currency.Nerf Ninja said:
The only models with BC were all discontinued, whether they used the Emotion Engine chip directly or software BC. Regardless...
If you really think that the only appeal of the PS3 was its backward compatibility, then here's a novel idea. You could... just use your PS2 and stop bitching because you don't like the games on this new system that other people happen to like.
It looks to me that when KingKamor said there's "no more reason" to bash it on the basis of price, he meant as compared to the Xbox 360, or even the Wii. Wii + second controller + second nunchuck >= $299. 360 Pro + one year of Xbox Live = $299. PS3 = $299. Whether you like the games or not is a matter of opinion.
EDIT: The backward compatibility on my second-edition PS3 (software rendering) works fine. Only game it doesn't play is Guilty Gear XX, but at least the PS2 is there to alleviate that problem.
On topic, the PS3 Slim... I agree, it looks ugly. Potentially helpful for those with limited space, but still ugly. I'm also not liking how it looks like the hard drive is hard-wired as opposed to swappable like the 'Phat,' but at least both models will be the same price, and cheaper than before.
Pray tell, if you already have a PS2, why the fuck do you care about backward compatibility in the first place? The only reason I can think of is the use of virtual memory cards on the hard drive as opposed to using one you probably already have. And 90% of the value? That's a fucking laugh as well. See, I personally am under the impression that the reason for a new system is for NEW games, not old ones for a system you already have. No one bought an Xbox 360 to play Halo 2 for instance.dorm41baggins said:
If you really think that the only appeal of the PS3 was its backward compatibility, then here's a novel idea. You could... just use your PS2 and stop bitching because you don't like the games on this new system that other people happen to like.
It looks to me that when KingKamor said there's "no more reason" to bash it on the basis of price, he meant as compared to the Xbox 360, or even the Wii. Wii + second controller + second nunchuck >= $299. 360 Pro + one year of Xbox Live = $299. PS3 = $299. Whether you like the games or not is a matter of opinion.
EDIT: The backward compatibility on my second-edition PS3 (software rendering) works fine. Only game it doesn't play is Guilty Gear XX, but at least the PS2 is there to alleviate that problem.
On topic, the PS3 Slim... I agree, it looks ugly. Potentially helpful for those with limited space, but still ugly. I'm also not liking how it looks like the hard drive is hard-wired as opposed to swappable like the 'Phat,' but at least both models will be the same price, and cheaper than before.
Hmmm. Nope, still not going to buy it... Only one game on there that I really want to get and I can play it at a friends house.
The 60, 20(not in production, but still easy to find), 80 uses emulation which seemed iffy at first but is pretty good now that they have had a few patches.E-mantheseeker said:
The 40 gig has no compatibility. Those are what I know of
What game is it that you want to play?Zeon_1992 said:
The old 80G ps3s had BC.E-mantheseeker said:
Well this is good to know. Now, if my 3rd ps3 breaks I can get a new one!
Isn't it tradition to have a slim edition of a PS console? They did it for the PSOne and PS2 as well.
Hopefully the performance isn't affected.
Hopefully the performance isn't affected.
jboking said:
EDIT: Whoops, news source fucked up.
The only way to get a model with PS2 BC is Ebay, and then you've got exorbitant prices to deal with (at least, the last time I checked.)
I think its too little too late, though the price drop is very welcome, its far too late. Its only coming down to the 360s price range now, and im sure MS will lower the 360s price now too. They might shift a few more units for xmas, but most parents will not be spending a huge amount this xmas due to the R word. I dont know how effective this is going to be, most people who wanted a ps3 have one already, the slim model is the same as the ps2 slim, just for the people buying it now.