Sooo.... What is it about Metroid Other M?

[Rancid0ffspring]

I know this has a lot of potential to go really bad and would appear to be complete flame bait so I do apologise about that. I haven't played it and I don't have the means or interest to. I do have to ask though....

What is it that gets Metroid Other M so much hate?

I've just finishd watching Extra Credits and they kind of slated the game. I swear i've seen it get bashed in other forums or threads.

Would someone mind just advising me on this... I'm curious and was hoping someone could fill me in.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

This will more or less explain it all for you. Have fun!

 

[Radoh]

They took a beloved silent protagonist who was competent, mature, and otherwise incredibly badass, then strapped her with a boring, bland, blatantly stupid voice, and threw in heavy-handed daddy issues who will put herself in danger simply because her Commanding Officer didn't tell her not to.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Decent gameplay overshadowed by torturous cutscenes with lobotomized voice actresses being submissive. Still fun to explore and run around in though. And it's nice to see cumulative effects on the beams without having to constantly switch them back and forth.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Samus who saved the universe all on her own on multiple occasions is a battered housewife now.

Oh god that is perfect!! I am putting that down in my quote book. LOL

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

this guy [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.234561-SirBryghtside-Reviews-Metroid-Other-M])

Ah... I see what you did there.

Cheers that pretty much sums it up then.

I've always liked the idea that Samus was a silent strong female character. I've admittedly only played a couple of metroid games. Sounds like they've tried to make her easier to identify with.... very badly or just with the wrong people.

Also watched the ZP. I get it now

 

[CriticalGriffin]

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

This will more or less explain it all for you. Have fun!

... That is if you want your source of information to be a horribly delusional insanity of an article that makes about as much sense as End of Evangelion on reverse.

The problem about Other M? Because People are butthurt that their interpretation of Samus is now invalid, so now they constantly whine about it, disguising that whine with pretty words they don't understand like "wuss" and "sexism".

Also watched the ZP. I get it now

Ah yes, because listening to a heavily opinionated Anti-Nintendo game critic is well known for speaking THE ABSOLUTE OBJECTIVE TRUTH.

Samus who saved the universe all on her own on multiple occasions is a battered housewife now.

Oh god that is perfect!! I am putting that down in my quote book. LOL

Your quote book must be really boring.

My, is that a new record I just set?

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

SNIP

Chill dude.

I didn't read the Moonbase 'essay' as he called it because it was too long and I didn't want to dedicate that kind of time to this. I actually read SirBryghtsides review which seemed quite complimentary towards the game.

General consesus seems to be that there was something bad about the game. That's what I was querying about it. You like it, cool. That's how these things work.

I don't take ZP reviews as gospel. If I did, i'd never have bought some of the games I currently own. It did however, give me a better idea of what some of the gripes with the game are. Albeit incredibly exagerated.

EDIT: Sorted out terrible grammar

 

[CriticalGriffin]

SNIP

Chill dude.

I didn't read the Moonbase 'Essay' as he called it because it was too long and I didn't want to dedicate that kind of time to this. i actually read SirBryghtsides review which seemed quite complimentary towards the game.

General consesus seems to be that there was something bad about the game. That's what I was querying it. You like it, cool. That's how these things work.

I don't take ZP reviews as gospel. If I did i'd have bought some of the games I currently own. It did however give me a better idea of what some of the gripes with the game are. Albeit incredibly exagerated.

Ah, great to hear. It seems some people do take this in a rational manner, good. Just feared you would jump on the flaming bandwagon.

Oh, and I just recently heard that article was supposedly meant to be satirical and sarcastic.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

This will more or less explain it all for you. Have fun!

... That is if you want your source of information to be a horribly delusional insanity of an article that makes about as much sense as End of Evangelion on reverse.

The problem about Other M? Because People are butthurt that their interpretation of Samus is now invalid, so now they constantly whine about it, disguising that whine with pretty words they don't understand like "wuss" and "sexism".

And of course, a rebuttal with absolutely no substance behind it save "No ur wrong!", yet offering no other reason for anyone to look any differently upon Other M than how the article views it (mind you, it looks through the entire series as well leading up to Other M, in perspective).

If you really think such, then do go ahead and explain your stance. Seriously, I really want to hear this. How does Other M "help" the character of Samus in any way, whatsoever?

Edit: And to note, I've played the game firsthand. This isn't just "mindless hate".

 

[Engarde]

If I may, though I only played the game for awhile, I was up to a snowy bit where you have to spot a woman in a window, before other issues knocked my wii out of action (well, tv to be more accurate), and I didn't see any problem with the voice. I was just....happy to have a voice? Maybe I am easily pleased. But the gameplay felt solid to me.

 

[CriticalGriffin]

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

This will more or less explain it all for you. Have fun!

... That is if you want your source of information to be a horribly delusional insanity of an article that makes about as much sense as End of Evangelion on reverse.

The problem about Other M? Because People are butthurt that their interpretation of Samus is now invalid, so now they constantly whine about it, disguising that whine with pretty words they don't understand like "wuss" and "sexism".

And of course, a rebuttal with absolutely no substance behind it save "No ur wrong!", yet offering no other reason for anyone to look any differently upon Other M than how the article views it (mind you, it looks through the entire series as well leading up to Other M, in perspective).

If you really think such, then do go ahead and explain your stance. Seriously, I really want to hear this. How does Other M "help" the character of Samus in any way, whatsoever?

I'd like to know how it doesn't help first.

... That is what I would say, but this topic isn't technically meant for that discussion.

 

[LikeDustInTheWind]

If you say you liked or didn't care about the change in Samus' character, I don't believe you are a real fan of the Metroid series. Samus was a strong, silent, fearless character. Other M basically destroyed that. It deserves a lot of the hate it gets.

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

This will more or less explain it all for you. Have fun!

... That is if you want your source of information to be a horribly delusional insanity of an article that makes about as much sense as End of Evangelion on reverse.

The problem about Other M? Because People are butthurt that their interpretation of Samus is now invalid, so now they constantly whine about it, disguising that whine with pretty words they don't understand like "wuss" and "sexism".

And of course, a rebuttal with absolutely no substance behind it save "No ur wrong!", yet offering no other reason for anyone to look any differently upon Other M than how the article views it (mind you, it looks through the entire series as well leading up to Other M, in perspective).

If you really think such, then do go ahead and explain your stance. Seriously, I really want to hear this. How does Other M "help" the character of Samus in any way, whatsoever?

I'd like to know how it doesn't help first.

Humor me. How did it help at all?

 

[ShadowsofHope]

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

This will more or less explain it all for you. Have fun!

... That is if you want your source of information to be a horribly delusional insanity of an article that makes about as much sense as End of Evangelion on reverse.

The problem about Other M? Because People are butthurt that their interpretation of Samus is now invalid, so now they constantly whine about it, disguising that whine with pretty words they don't understand like "wuss" and "sexism".

And of course, a rebuttal with absolutely no substance behind it save "No ur wrong!", yet offering no other reason for anyone to look any differently upon Other M than how the article views it (mind you, it looks through the entire series as well leading up to Other M, in perspective).

If you really think such, then do go ahead and explain your stance. Seriously, I really want to hear this. How does Other M "help" the character of Samus in any way, whatsoever?

I'd like to know how it doesn't help first.

... That is what I would say, but this topic isn't technically meant for that discussion.

If you want to do this over PM's, I'll go along with it then. Though, I asked my question first! And you made the comment about the article being "delusional" as well. Need to be more comprehensive on that, as well.

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

... That is what I would say, but this topic isn't technically meant for that discussion.

Think of it more as expanding the conversation.

I'd like to hear your opinion.

 

[Irridium]

From the way people complain, its because Samus now has a personality and is more interesting than "standard bounty hunter who's only unique because she's a woman". Hell, the amount of times she's shown any sort of humanity you could count on one hand. The most notable of which is when she saved the baby metroid.

But I doubt the hate is because she now has a personality. The issue I have with it is because Nintendo completely dropped the ball on introducing us and presenting her personality. Instead of making her look like a deep human with inner demons, desires, thoughts, dreams, ect. they make her look like a whiny high-school chick.

I just think people are angry at how her personality was presented, and are complaining about the wrong thing.

 

[MasterChief892039]

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[TheAmazingHobo]

If you say you liked or didn't care about the change in Samus' character, I don't believe you are a real fan of the Metroid series. Samus was a strong, silent, fearless character. Other M basically destroyed that. It deserves a lot of the hate it gets.

I did not care about the change in Samus´ character (never played any Metroid game before, so whatever delusions people had about the character traits of a completely silent non-person, were certaily not shared by me) and I still hated the game.

Because the writing was shit. Just shit.
Bad pacing, the characters were total ciphers and nobody even came close to emulating how a normal person would act. For all I care, they could have made Samus into a whiny, emotional bimbo with severe self-destuctive tendencies, as long as it was well written.
People can have a shouting match about how the changes in Samus´ character were good or bad all they want, but ultimately it doesn´t matter, because she was WRITTEN HORRIBLY EITHER WAY!