SOPA, PIP and ACTA, Violating Human Rights?

[The Name's Bond]

Hello all Escapists,
I happened to be looking around on the internet and found about ACTA, the new European law to well and truly screw the internet like SOPA and PIPA, so I did my homework lots of homework and began to look at the Universal Deceleration of Human Rights, I saw three articles that I felt could be applied to these useless excuses for bills,

Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 27.

(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

These seem to me like they are violated by SOPA, PIPA and ACTA, so Escapists, what do you think?

Fight SOPA, PIPA and ACTA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Xg_C2YmG0

 

[JesterRaiin]

Interesting.
It never occurred to me to check Declaration of Human Rights.
It seems that ACTA (or at least parts of it) really mess Art. 12 of HR Declaration.
Good job and thanks man !

 

[piplink]

How is this gaming discussion, just pointing that out.

OT: Yeah, ACTA really does interfere with article 12, it will suck if it passes though. at least I still have Steam.

 

[The Name's Bond]

How is this gaming discussion, just pointing that out.

Yeah, I probably should have checked that before I posted it

 

[Esotera]

I think we need an amendment to human rights that says that if you introduce legislation more than twice that has the potential to infringe on human rights, they no longer apply to you. Or at least something that gets these morons fired.

 

[Rude as HECK]

The Universal Declaration is not legally binding. I suggest you check your domestic human rights legislation, most notably if your country has signed and ratified the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

 

[Flying Dagger]

technically none of these are violated by sopa - just a FYI.

You're still allowed to live at home without interference, you can still express your views and you are still free to enjoy the cultural life of your community.

There is a discussion still in the air over whether access to the entire internet is a human right, so declaring a minor stipulation on the internet is not going to be a violation of human rights.
(The change that sopa would bring is one that I wholeheartedly oppose but still one that is unlikely to cause fundamental changes [note - not ths point I am trying to make in this post])

 

[Rude as HECK]

There are due process concerns under Art 9 ICCPR, though. Legislation similar to SOPA has been rejected by the Euro court of human rights for due process concerns.

 

[TheCorpseMan99]

technically none of these are violated by sopa - just a FYI.

You're still allowed to live at home without interference, you can still express your views and you are still free to enjoy the cultural life of your community.

There is a discussion still in the air over whether access to the entire internet is a human right, so declaring a minor stipulation on the internet is not going to be a violation of human rights.
(The change that sopa would bring is one that I wholeheartedly oppose but still one that is unlikely to cause fundamental changes [note - not ths point I am trying to make in this post])

Article 19: "this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

 

[ShindoL Shill]

just FYI, ACTA isnt European. the EU was won of the few countries/continental representatives NOT to sign it. the US did.

still, the fact that we may have a way to stop these acts is reassuring.

 

[Irridium]

I thought ACTA got essentially neutered a few years back. Or did that change when I wasn't looking?

 

[him over there]

I thought ACTA got essentially neutered a few years back. Or did that change when I wasn't looking?

It essentially crashed into obscurity while it was still obscure and known by like a select few groups and individuals on the internet. It never left the whole time and it's like two years old but everyone thinks it's new. Probably to sneak by a few steps in approval but I n=would need to do more research.

 

[almostgold]

I havent read PIPA or ACTA, but what exactly in SOPA is it you think violates these?

 

[Bad Jim]

Article 27.

(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Wow. Seems to me the entire patent and copyright systems violate that one.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

These seem to me like they are violated by SOPA, PIPA and ACTA, so Escapists, what do you think?

Legally they bypass it.

It's not an arbitrary attack if there's cause behind it. (Prevention of Terrorism Act could do it for one) You have the protection of the law from such attacks - it's just the data is taking into custody.

Article 19 actually works for the Acts, as they are being blocked from reaching their target audience by piracy. You can still engage in all those activities unless they are criminal - which SOPA etc. criminalises.

Article 27 isn't touched as you can still participate.

12/19/27 all get overrided by ongoing criminal investigation anyway.

Sorry, if I can do it, and IANAL, then a real lawyer would crush you.

The First Amendment is proof enough - as most countries have broken the Human Rights act in some of their normal laws.

Without going into Britain's DPA or any of the other non-American laws that America is violating.

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

I think we need an amendment to human rights that says that if you introduce legislation more than twice that has the potential to infringe on human rights, they no longer apply to you. Or at least something that gets these morons fired.

Sort of like a double jeopardy of legislation, eh. That'd be a good idea, but infringing on our rights with the hope that we don't notice is more or less the theme of modern United States government; there's no way such a law would go through.

 

[Von Strimmer]

I thought ACTA got essentially neutered a few years back. Or did that change when I wasn't looking?

I'm pretty sure it's already been signed, well at least by Australia. It has been active since 1st October 2011 :/

Sauce: http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/acta/

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Human rights don't really exist. It's a made up thing that was popular after WW2. But as people forget about the atrocities committed during that period, all that talk about human rights is starting to become meaningless once again. You'd need another world war to reset this fucked up world. That, or violent anti-government revolutions all across the globe. But we as a species are too stupid to do something so simple and effective. War is more our thing.

 

[TingaWinga]

I feel like my human rights have been violated just by mentioning these monstrosities.
Lets hope they give up again

 

[EHKOS]

In the words of George Carlin, you have no rights. They are an illusion and they can be broken whenever authority figures deem so.