South Korea Lawsuit for Addicted Gamer

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knight steel

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Mackheath said:
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As for you i just happen to be Bff with kira so don't you but in (gives evil glare)
Good for you; I got him to write my name in 55 years from now for a bag of potato chips...WHICH HE ATE!
You mean your the legendary potato chip giver he speaks of so highly the one who...who gave him his fav snack and is his closest friend........i bow in your greatness Mackheath.
 

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Spot1990 said:
Man, in America you guys can just sue anyone for anything eh?
Yeah, it's our second national pastime after baseball, I'm afraid. I think it's stupid that we do that, and it clogs up the already overworked legal system.
 

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Wait, that's the whole damn point. That's like someone suing Ford because they had to pay for gas whenever they drove the car anywhere!

So he's basically suing them for having gameplay that he wants to play. What an ass.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
Wait, that's the whole damn point. That's like someone suing Ford because they had to pay for gas whenever they drove the car anywhere!

So he's basically suing them for having gameplay that he wants to play. What an ass.
more like suing pfizer for OD'ing on cough syrup but if you actually read the article he's got a point:

"Lineage II" left him unable to function independently in daily activities"

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"NCSoft Corp. never warned him about the danger of game addiction."

dunno if you played WoW but every couple loading screens or so they tell ya to go outside, catch butterflies with your friends, eat and sleep and all that.

while you might think this is retarded, we seem to be excluding the possibility of smallwood (heh... smallwood) just wanting to get some cash action going on what seems to be a technicality
 

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aoxomoxoa said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Wait, that's the whole damn point. That's like someone suing Ford because they had to pay for gas whenever they drove the car anywhere!

So he's basically suing them for having gameplay that he wants to play. What an ass.
more like suing pfizer for OD'ing on cough syrup but if you actually read the article he's got a point:

"Lineage II" left him unable to function independently in daily activities"

&

"NCSoft Corp. never warned him about the danger of game addiction."

dunno if you played WoW but every couple loading screens or so they tell ya to go outside, catch butterflies with your friends, eat and sleep and all that.

while you might think this is retarded, we seem to be excluding the possibility of smallwood (heh... smallwood) just wanting to get some cash action going on what seems to be a technicality
Well, I'm pretty sure Ford (I'm not letting that example go) doesn't tell anyone specifically that if you drive off a huge cliff, there's a decent chance you'll fucking die. Why? Because it's common sense.

If this guy thought that he could play one game all the time in exclusion of all else, and that he would still be able to function normally, then I'm sorry but that's not the companies fault.

They created a fun game, he plays it too much. Who is at fault here? Are they supposed to make the controls awful so that no one wants to play it? No, because a) they have a responsibility to their customers to make quality products, and b) if they're a public company they have a responsibility to turn a profit for their share holders.

They shouldn't have to warn you that eating your computer could leave unable to function independently in daily activities as well. Because even though it would be nice, the consumer has certain responsibilities with a product, and one of them is self control.
 

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When I saw this I instantly thought "I bet that's Nexon America passing the buck onto Nexon Korea about Maplestory", but I was wrong. Lineage? Really? That left him incapacitated? What did it do, give him a seizure?
 

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Why not just throw a little blurb in the amendments that as an American citizen you are in no way responsible for your own well being? Seems what we're aiming for at this point.
 

aoxomoxoa

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Ironic Pirate said:
aoxomoxoa said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Wait, that's the whole damn point. That's like someone suing Ford because they had to pay for gas whenever they drove the car anywhere!

So he's basically suing them for having gameplay that he wants to play. What an ass.
more like suing pfizer for OD'ing on cough syrup but if you actually read the article he's got a point:

"Lineage II" left him unable to function independently in daily activities"

&

"NCSoft Corp. never warned him about the danger of game addiction."

dunno if you played WoW but every couple loading screens or so they tell ya to go outside, catch butterflies with your friends, eat and sleep and all that.

while you might think this is retarded, we seem to be excluding the possibility of smallwood (heh... smallwood) just wanting to get some cash action going on what seems to be a technicality
Well, I'm pretty sure Ford (I'm not letting that example go) doesn't tell anyone specifically that if you drive off a huge cliff, there's a decent chance you'll fucking die. Why? Because it's common sense.

If this guy thought that he could play one game all the time in exclusion of all else, and that he would still be able to function normally, then I'm sorry but that's not the companies fault.

They created a fun game, he plays it too much. Who is at fault here? Are they supposed to make the controls awful so that no one wants to play it? No, because a) they have a responsibility to their customers to make quality products, and b) if they're a public company they have a responsibility to turn a profit for their share holders.

They shouldn't have to warn you that eating your computer could leave unable to function independently in daily activities as well. Because even though it would be nice, the consumer has certain responsibilities with a product, and one of them is self control.
If you really wanna get into specifics:
Ford doesn't tell anyone that if you drive off a cliff there's a chance you'll die because once you bought the damn car, it's not Fords concern what you do with it ~~ the car is an autonomous entity and in no way depends on Ford to work.

Just like it aint Legos fault your kid swallows a brick sideways, it's true NCSoft holds no blame BUT Lego slaps a warning sticker so you dont buy your 2yo kid boxes with tiny parts in em ~~ and if they didnt have a sticker they'd get sued.

So yeah, NCSoft should put a warning that the game MAY cause whatever game addiction and if they didnt have one, they should get sued.

Lemme ask you this ~~ if its not Marlboros fault you get cancer why do they have warning stickers on packs of smokes? Why do they warn against you drinking insecticide? Why do they warn against you taking a bath with your Phillips hairdryer? They're all common sense, mate
 

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aoxomoxoa said:
Ironic Pirate said:
aoxomoxoa said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Wait, that's the whole damn point. That's like someone suing Ford because they had to pay for gas whenever they drove the car anywhere!

So he's basically suing them for having gameplay that he wants to play. What an ass.
more like suing pfizer for OD'ing on cough syrup but if you actually read the article he's got a point:

"Lineage II" left him unable to function independently in daily activities"

&

"NCSoft Corp. never warned him about the danger of game addiction."

dunno if you played WoW but every couple loading screens or so they tell ya to go outside, catch butterflies with your friends, eat and sleep and all that.

while you might think this is retarded, we seem to be excluding the possibility of smallwood (heh... smallwood) just wanting to get some cash action going on what seems to be a technicality
Well, I'm pretty sure Ford (I'm not letting that example go) doesn't tell anyone specifically that if you drive off a huge cliff, there's a decent chance you'll fucking die. Why? Because it's common sense.

If this guy thought that he could play one game all the time in exclusion of all else, and that he would still be able to function normally, then I'm sorry but that's not the companies fault.

They created a fun game, he plays it too much. Who is at fault here? Are they supposed to make the controls awful so that no one wants to play it? No, because a) they have a responsibility to their customers to make quality products, and b) if they're a public company they have a responsibility to turn a profit for their share holders.

They shouldn't have to warn you that eating your computer could leave unable to function independently in daily activities as well. Because even though it would be nice, the consumer has certain responsibilities with a product, and one of them is self control.
If you really wanna get into specifics:
Ford doesn't tell anyone that if you drive off a cliff there's a chance you'll die because once you bought the damn car, it's not Fords concern what you do with it ~~ the car is an autonomous entity and in no way depends on Ford to work.

Just like it aint Legos fault your kid swallows a brick sideways, it's true NCSoft holds no blame BUT Lego slaps a warning sticker so you dont buy your 2yo kid boxes with tiny parts in em ~~ and if they didnt have a sticker they'd get sued.

So yeah, NCSoft should put a warning that the game MAY cause whatever game addiction and if they didnt have one, they should get sued.

Lemme ask you this ~~ if its not Marlboros fault you get cancer why do they have warning stickers on packs of smokes? Why do they warn against you drinking insecticide? Why do they warn against you taking a bath with your Phillips hairdryer? They're all common sense, mate
Yeah, but they're definite. If I smoke, I'm likely to get cancer. If I take a bath with a hairdryer, I'm likely to be electrocuted. If I play a game, I have the power to stop playing when I choose, while it would have been nice for the company to warn people to excercise self control, it's not necessary for them to, and a lawsuit is ridiculous.

If I ate nothing but McDonalds for a month, I wouldn't sue them for getting fat, because they're product, while "addicting", in a sense, is meant to be consumed in moderation, same with the game.
 

aoxomoxoa

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Yeah, but they're definite. If I smoke, I'm likely to get cancer. If I take a bath with a hairdryer, I'm likely to be electrocuted. If I play a game, I have the power to stop playing when I choose, while it would have been nice for the company to warn people to excercise self control, it's not necessary for them to, and a lawsuit is ridiculous.

If I ate nothing but McDonalds for a month, I wouldn't sue them for getting fat, because they're product, while "addicting", in a sense, is meant to be consumed in moderation, same with the game.
dunno where you're from but mcdonalds usually has warnings, the likes of "you should excercise" or "a big mac aint a substitute for proper food and such", and they got em all over europe.

maybe my hairdryer example wasnt the best but smoking sure was... you have the power to stop and yet you choose not to (if you do smoke) ~~ you have to realize that just because you're (or at least say you are) a balanced human being doesnt make the rest of us right in the head (cos i can acknowledge and admit my own personal shit i gotta deal with)

its been my personal experience that everybody's got some vice or other: if you dont smoke you drink, dont drink you probably do coke, never touched drugs but you *@#$ little kids ~~ and some external factor will usually trigger an inadequate response on your part ~~ your girlfriend might break up with you or you may catch your wife cheating or some situation that sounds clichéd until it actually happens and you'll go into some form of depression or maybe a murderous rampage or become gay

in this case, lineage, thats not really addictive (by the way, i dont believe in stuff being addictive unless theres a chemical component involved) moved mr smallwood (heh... smallwood) in some way and his total disregard for anything other than the game came into play, in which case they should put a warning.

i studied psychology and although im far from being an expert, one thing you learn first and foremost is any action will get a whole spectrum of different reactions, depending on the people involved.

while i completely agree this is the far fucking end of the spectrum, it is a genuine medical condition (not game addiction, but being addicted in general) and this lawsuit is more a "principle of the matter" issue than anything else.

one in maybe ten thousand people that take psychiatric anti depressants get violent and or suicidal thoughts in the first month of starting the treatment ~ that shit has its own paragraph in the little booklet that comes with pills

i know (and thoroughly understand) it sounds ridiculous to you ~~ in fact, since youre most likely a normal human being, IT IS ridiculous ~~ but some people have problems deeper than yours or mine.