Spammers/Campers

[Vivi22]

Don't hate the player, hate the game. If a shooter rewards spamming/camping more than the playstyle it's designed around, that's an indication the shooter isn't designed very well.

This. If it's in the game it's a perfectly valid tactic, and other people do not have to play by some arbitrary rule set which only exists in someones head. If they happen to break the game though then it's time to move on because you're just playing a bad game.

Honestly, barring the game actually being poorly designed, the only people who complain about this stuff are usually the people who aren't good enough at the game to know how to deal with it.

 

[pirateninj4]

Well camping is a valid tactic if done right . If you spawn camping thats terrible . If your a sniper and you found a great hiding place thats okay , at least in my book . It's true that playing against a team of snipers is boring . But ( and this is especially true for teamplay) there is nothing wrong with 1 or 2 guys supporting their team by stayin back , staying hidden and picking some guys off while the otheres rush the objective . It's more strategic that way . But those are in ideal situations .

As for spammers , well , they can burn in two fires .

I found in MW2 that a team of campers were especially vulnerable to my stabby leapy Mcdeathy deal.

 

[Flailing Escapist]

I camp all the goddamn time. It's funny because it's only in places that if you're paying attention you'll easily notice me.

I like to keep it fair and pick off the guys who are rushing around.

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[Reginald the Butler]

I believe what they mean by FPS spammers are people who repeatedly fire off grenade launchers, or who go Rambo and unload their entire clip while turning a corner.

I personally believe that campers can all just go jump off a cliff. I don't mean those players who take cover to reload, or to defend a position that is under attack, I mean those players who find one doorway or corner and decide that their idea of a fun game is to lay down for an entire match and wait.

That's why I enjoy more objective-based matches on COD. "Oh you're going to sit there the entire match? Well that's nice. Oh by the way, we just planted the bomb in your base, so good luck with that."

 

[Dogstile]

I like to stalk Campers, and spammers. I'll run out into broad daylight where a camper has been reported, let him kill me, watch where the bullet comes from and then burn him with my blowtorch, or claymore him to death, or use a rocket launcher to take the building apart level by level. Spammers are easy enough to kill, watch the rocket smoke or the grenade toss arc, and simply toss one back, or lay down cover fire for someone to knife em. Or hijack a hummer, and use it as a projectile with C4 attached. It's great fun. Team Trolling these guys is effective and hilarious. Gotta make your own fun

Assuming you're talking about battlefield, where you can't really camp because if you're on the top of a tall building, they'll just blow up the building around you. Gotta love battlefield for that.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Spawn camping makes the game a worse experience for everyone. Camping otherwise I find boring to play against but otherwise fine. Spammers are okay because it forces people to find new tactics to overcome it while still being fair.
On an unrelated note commando in MW2 was not overpowered or cheap. Knifing was still a hell of a lot harder to do then using some of the actually overpowered options.

 

[Hazy992]

Spammers are in Fighting games and Campers in FPS

Ah, so I was right when I was talking about fireballs? It isn't necessarily spamming though. If the player is useless then it probably is just spamming, but if they're a pro then they're most likely 'zoning'.

 

[ElPatron]

Camping is a legit strategy for competition.

So unless you're in some kind of league then campers in "public" servers means that the maps are either rubbish, or that your team sucks and can't handle enemies using a low level strategy.

In BF2 it was awful if a team was exploiting camping sports in a coordinated fashion, but usually a single guy camping is dead. The game always gave you a way to fight back lonely campers. I just had the bad luck of being the first man to be targeted in a group of people and that made me rage many times.

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

While camping may be annoying it's one of the worst strategies available. After a camper kills you once, you know where they are and how you can take them out because since they're camping they won't move from that one spot until forced. The same goes for spammers, another one trick pony that can be stopped simply by figuring out how to counter.

Sometimes camping is just part of the class description though. Obviously Snipers and The Engineer from TF2 fit that description. Although games nowadays make Sniping far to easy, specially in M.A.G. where I've fought teams consisting of 9/10 snipers.

 

[Qitz]

Campers are hilarious. 90% of the time they're dumb enough to return to their camp so you root them out once you can get them again.

Grenade Spammers are a pain, but that's just because grenades like to explode. Hadoken spammers are easy to beat though.

 

[Blazing Steel]

God damn it camping is anoying, but it only becomes a problem if they spend the entire game in the only place. If someone camps me out because they know I'm coming it's fine, but if the guy is sitting in the corner for the whole game it's going to piss me off and cause me to hunt them down personal end their virtural life.

Spammers can be anoying, but most games have a perk/class to stop them becoming too much of a problem so I normally use them at the start of the game to nutralize the spammers.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Spammers are in Fighting games and Campers in FPS

Ah, so I was right when I was talking about fireballs? It isn't necessarily spamming though. If the player is useless then it probably is just spamming, but if they're a pro then they're most likely 'zoning'.

T-T i never fought in 'Zoners' just spammers, all Ken's to. that was a good match btw, one of yours or youtube at random?

OT:
'camping' i have little issue with unless its spawn camping, since the art of sniping is built around 'camping' anyway. s

pammers, are useless. you'd be amazed at how pathetic they really are against some one with even a rough idea on what they're doing. in fact, most all my wins on SF4 where against spammers

 

[Hazy992]

Spammers are in Fighting games and Campers in FPS

Ah, so I was right when I was talking about fireballs? It isn't necessarily spamming though. If the player is useless then it probably is just spamming, but if they're a pro then they're most likely 'zoning'.

T-T i never fought in 'Zoners' just spammers, all Ken's to. that was a good match btw, one of yours or youtube at random?

OT:
'camping' i have little issue with unless its spawn camping, since the art of sniping is built around 'camping' anyway. s

pammers, are useless. you'd be amazed at how pathetic they really are against some one with even a rough idea on what they're doing. in fact, most all my wins on SF4 where against spammers

Haha I wish it was one of mine! No, it's Daigo Umehara (Ryu), he's considered one of the best Street Fighter players in the world, if not THE best. I think the guy playing him is another pro player.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Haha I wish it was one of mine! No, it's Daigo Umehara (Ryu), he's considered one of the best Street Fighter players in the world, if not THE best. I think the guy playing him is another pro player.

ah .... didn't know he'd moved to SSF4, last thing i saw him playing was 3rd strike, though that was a while ago admittedly, and my friend was more into the tourneys then i was.

 

[Hazy992]

Haha I wish it was one of mine! No, it's Daigo Umehara (Ryu), he's considered one of the best Street Fighter players in the world, if not THE best. I think the guy playing him is another pro player.

ah .... didn't know he'd moved to SSF4, last thing i saw him playing was 3rd strike, though that was a while ago admittedly, and my friend was more into the tourneys then i was.

Yeah I think he plays MvC3 as well and he'll probably be playing SFxT soon enough.

 

[PatrickXD]

Using CoD as the example here, the stun/flash grenades are pretty much their exclusively for preventing campers. Counter-camping capabilities have been in the CoD games since CoD 4, the only people who still complain about campers are those too stubborn to adapt to a different situation (ie. stop rushing in with an smg/knife)

 

[barbzilla]

Don't hate the player, hate the game. If a shooter rewards spamming/camping more than the playstyle it's designed around, that's an indication the shooter isn't designed very well.

I kind of have to agree with this. If a game has a cheap ability that can be spammed then it's not a well balanced game. If a game is designed so that one team can be spawn camped then that's just a crappy game.
As far as snipers just finding good spots to camp in, I kind of like that. It gives me something to hunt. Nothing was more fun for me then finding a sniper in Battlefield and stabbing them in the back. I caught three on one roof once.

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OT:
It really depends on the situation. I agree that spamming tubes is super cheap and annoying so I can say this should be moved away from. Camping on the otherhand is a bit more involved when defining. It is perfectly okay for a sniper to find a good nest and hold to it if he can stay hidden. Someone who finds a spot on the map with 350 degrees of protection and gains 60 degrees of coverage is a bit annoying though (also known as a bunker), unless the game is designed for it (aka a game with vehicles tends to fit this description).

 

[zehydra]

There's nothing wrong with playing by the rules. Camping is totally legitimate. If you can't beat a camper, then there's something wrong with the way you're approaching the game.

 

[sabercrusader]

Spammers? I can't find any excuse to justify that.

Campers? If they're sniping? Okay. If they're guarding an objective? Fine. Any other time? No. I will admit, I've camped before, I normally try not to, and normally when I do, it's either sniping, or defending an objective.