Of course any immigrant should learn the language of the country they are going to reside in. It is much better to be bilingual, than it is to know just one language.
Speaking the language of your home country
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Bout to say the same thing. From my understanding, Mexico is in North America. Maybe the OP knows something we don't...Swarley said:
One has to wonder why they'd even go to the class in the first place if they don't even want to learn. Maybe your mother's friend is just a bad teacher.VanityGirl said:
And on a separate tangent, most of the illegals I have met (and I have met a lot working at two fast food restaurants in my day) have at least a basic grasp on the English language. Maybe that's because I'm all the way up in Minnesota where Spanish isn't as predominant. But yeah, I think it's dumb of people who move somewhere and don't even know the language spoken by the vast majority of it's residents. Hell, I'm planning on taking a trip to another country in the next couple of years, not even moving there, and I'm learning the language. It just makes things so much easier.
While I am fluent in Spanish, I find it to be in incredibly bad taste when immigrants, regardless of their being legal or not, don't respect a country to even bother learning the language, whether they live in a town with large amounts of immigrants or not.
Its a bit different in Scandinavia (i live in Finland, which is not TECHNICALLY part of scandinavia, but for the sake of americans, ill include us).
Scandinavians know that their languages are obscure and only spoken by a handfull of people in their countrys, however, there is a strong emphasis on multilingual skills in school.
In Finland (the most well educated of the northern european countrys) children begin learning English and Swedish at 8 years old, and are taught it every day throughout their schooling, as well as their native Finnish and in high school are given the option to learn 1 or even 2 more.
I know the other scandinavian countrys are all taught english to a simmilar profeciency, and i believe they have the option to study other languages as well (allot of swedes speak german, norwegians speak dutch e.t.c).
Fins dont expect foreginers to speak Finnish upon arriving. Its the second hardest language in the world to learn for an english speaker. Finland is a very multilingual country, and you will find most everything written in Finnish, Swedish and English.
However, if you want to truley intergrate into Finnish society, you need to make the effort to at least try and learn the crazy language.
My main beef is with Russians. They come here, and not only can they not speak finnish, but most of the time they cannot even speak english. Now, in a country with 3 nationally understood languages, i REALLY dont think its that hard to pick one to attempt to communicate with others in!!
In short - You get out of a foregin country what you put in.
If you go there expecting that everyone will give you everything and you will be accepted and treated equally without even wanting to speak the language..... Well, enjoy spending the rest of your days isolated within an "ethnic district" and despised by the locals.
Scandinavians know that their languages are obscure and only spoken by a handfull of people in their countrys, however, there is a strong emphasis on multilingual skills in school.
In Finland (the most well educated of the northern european countrys) children begin learning English and Swedish at 8 years old, and are taught it every day throughout their schooling, as well as their native Finnish and in high school are given the option to learn 1 or even 2 more.
I know the other scandinavian countrys are all taught english to a simmilar profeciency, and i believe they have the option to study other languages as well (allot of swedes speak german, norwegians speak dutch e.t.c).
Fins dont expect foreginers to speak Finnish upon arriving. Its the second hardest language in the world to learn for an english speaker. Finland is a very multilingual country, and you will find most everything written in Finnish, Swedish and English.
However, if you want to truley intergrate into Finnish society, you need to make the effort to at least try and learn the crazy language.
My main beef is with Russians. They come here, and not only can they not speak finnish, but most of the time they cannot even speak english. Now, in a country with 3 nationally understood languages, i REALLY dont think its that hard to pick one to attempt to communicate with others in!!
In short - You get out of a foregin country what you put in.
If you go there expecting that everyone will give you everything and you will be accepted and treated equally without even wanting to speak the language..... Well, enjoy spending the rest of your days isolated within an "ethnic district" and despised by the locals.
As far as I'm concerned if you're unable to speak, read and write at a minimum equivalence of grade 10 english then you should not be able to have citizenship in north america. Don't expect a lot of people to agree with me, and I don't blame them as my view on immigration is quite harsh. Though realisticly, if I or anyone from North America were to move to another country, we (I) would have to learn their language, so I would be able to effectively communicate with everyone around me. Here we don't have that standard and it truly is a shame.
I'm all for expressing cultural freedom and whatnot, but learn the fucking language.
I'm all for expressing cultural freedom and whatnot, but learn the fucking language.
well The french will never respect you for butching frech....they're so supremist. (i HATE FRENCH.......language)
I hear that a lot from older migrants here in Australia. They busted their arses to learn English (and even pick up some 'Strine) when they lobbed here in the 50s and 60s, not only because no one made any allowances for them but because they WANTED to be Australians (even if the anglo Aussies didn't want them). They didn't want to give up their own cultures and languages but they wanted to be able to assimilate enough to get involved and have their own hand in things.VanityGirl said:
Also, I was totally jealous in high school of the eastern European kids who were fluent in 3 or 4 languages and busy making English their ***** as well.
SamFisher202 said:
Yes but most, if not all, of the people who penned the DoI were slave owners so they didn't really mean it anyway.
