Spec Ops: The Line Ending ( SPOILERS!)

[Auzzie Taco]

I just completed Spec Ops:The Line and three words popped into my mind. Tyler. Fucking. Durden. Did anyone else have this reaction?

 

[Zhukov]

Who is Tyler and why is he fucking Durden?

...

Okay, after a quick Googling I shall assume you are referring to the character from Fight Club.

No, that did not occur to me.

 

[hazabaza1]

It was more "Heart of Darkness", wasn't it?
I dunno, never watched Fight Club or read HoD so I'm just going from what I've heard.

 

[King Billi]

Yeah I saw that connection.

Then again I've seen this kind of twist in so many other films now that its kind of its own subgenre.

Still an incredible game though.

 

[Murderiser]

While I can kind of get the connection, the two are pretty different. Durden actually controls the narrator at numerous points and is represents his desires. 'Konrad' never controls anything and is entirely a figment of Walker's mind. Also, their roles are reversed compared with Durden and the Narrator in Fight Club; Walker's the one out of control, 'Konrad' is his conscience.

 

[Auzzie Taco]

No. The twist was similar to Fight Club but Spec Ops was so strong on it's own I never once thought of Fight Club until after the credits.

The game is definitely in my top 3 this year ( we will see after Absoloution preloads. It was the only game I didn't notice Nolan North.

 

[Ariseishirou]

Nah. The whole "antagonist is really all in the protagonist's head" has been done before Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk doesn't own the copyright on it or anything. Also, Spec Ops did it very differently.

 

[ClockworkUniverse]

While the superficial concepts are similar, they're pretty much opposites in execution. Tyler Durden is an outlet for the protagonist's more unpleasant nature, while Konrad is Walker's attempt to excuse his actions by making up a videogame supervillain who made him do it.

 

[hermes]

Actually, the twist reminded me a lot of the end twist of Black Ops 1. Not going into details to avoid spoilers on that game, but it does seems similar... even though Spec Ops handled it a lot better.

 

[lithiumvocals]

To the game's credit (I just finished it last night), I did not see that coming at all. My jaw fucking dropped at the reveal. And the only time I ever thought of Fight Club in relation to that was when I saw others discuss that.

Man, The Line was fucking great.

 

[ResonanceSD]

It was more "Heart of Darkness", wasn't it?

^ This, so much this, it's a modern Heart of Darkness.

Hell the antagonist's NAME is Conrad.

 

[lithiumvocals]

It was more "Heart of Darkness", wasn't it?

^ This, so much this, it's a modern Heart of Darkness.

Hell the antagonist's NAME is Conrad.

Well, technically his name is Konrad. And even then, his name is technically Martin Walker.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Well, technically his name is Konrad. And even then, his name is technically Martin Walker.

Was that necessary? Really?

I think the scene with the tower and the window was definitely supposed to make you make that connection.

It's the whole 'look at what you've done' bit, whilst being forced to see yourself in the reflection.

What the twist meant to the story was very different from fight club. But that scene was certainly meant to draw the parallels.

The developers have hinted that everything that happens after the second chopper crash was the protagonist's brain going nuts as he died. It's the fade to white rather than the fade through black that gives it away.

 

[Knight Templar]

It was more "Heart of Darkness", wasn't it?

^ This, so much this, it's a modern Heart of Darkness.

Hell the antagonist's NAME is Conrad.

I have not read the novel, but isn't the bad guy in Heart of Darkness real?

 

[lithiumvocals]

Well, technically his name is Konrad. And even then, his name is technically Martin Walker.

Was that necessary? Really?

That wasn't meant as a crack at you or anything. I'm sorry if I offended you.